Give me some verses.
Ex 2:2
Ex 2:4
Yeshua told us exactly what he meant in John 17:11, 22. The oneness between the Father and the Son is the same exact oneness that believers are to have with each other; not a oneness of being, person, or deity, but of purpose.
Jesus skipped 7 chapters to tell you exactly what He meant when He said John 10:30...I and my father are one?
And the the Jews wanted to Kill Jesus (John 10:33) for teaching Jesus had the same purpose....as God....to bring men to belief in God?
Uh No. All Prophets teach were teaching Gods Message for men to come to belief in God.
Immediately after Jesus said "he and his father are one"....John 10:30
The Jews wanted to Kill Him........FOR....
Making HIMSELF GOD John 10:33
I would say the Jews in Jesus' Presence would better know, better than you, THEY UNDERSTOOD Jesus MEANT.
The "LORD", in this verse, is YHWH (Yeshua's Father - Psalm 2:7).
You have the advantage of the NEW and OLD Testament.
You were suppose to learn the MYSTERY of God. His Glory, His Light, His Power, His Word, IS all part of HIS OWN MAKEUP, regardless of WHAT HE DECLARES each part of Him shall be called.
The Hebrew reads "el gibbor". The word "el" is used of men as well as the Almighty. Yeshua is a mighty el, but he is not "The Mighty El". The phrase can also be translated "mighty warrior".
"Everlasting Father" is a poor translation as well. There are at least 27 names in the Bible with the same Hebrew construction as in this verse. Each one means the "father of (something)." For example, Abishua means "father of plenty." Instead of translating the phrase in
Is.9:6 as "Father of eternity," the KJV reversed the sequence making the true meaning harder to discern. Several newer versions correct this mistake such as The Emphasized Bible, The Bible in Basic English, The New American Bible, The Holy Bible; A Translation From the Latin Vulgate in the Light of the Hebrew and Greek Originals, and The New English Bible, just to name a few. Yeshua is the Father of Eternity because eternal life comes to us through him. And so it is written in
Heb.5:9, "And being made perfect, he became the author (or father) of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;"
Prophecy was foretold, that men who KNOW the Prophecy would RECOGNIZE the FULFILLMENT of Gods Promise to Walk among men.
You don't appear to RECOGNIZE the FULFILLMENT....even when Jesus said...
The OT was About Him.
Now you are taking the same approach as others on this thread. Since you can't refute the Scriptures I present or my view, you accuse me of being carnally minded. Sad indeed.
My Approach is to TRUST the Lords Understanding of His own Word.
I do not agree with you, and said so.
I have shown what I trust to believe and why.
I have no obligation to show you are wrong...
I simply choose to believe By the knowledge revealed in Scripture My God is not some little compact floating invisible Spirit, but rather has very Specific parts of His makeup and desires me to know what they are, and what Name He assigns to them....
Just as you have assigned to YOURSELF...the Name..."gadar perets" ....
You agreed....Jesus is the "true light'...so since you do not believe the Father and Son are ONE GOD....what "LIGHT" do you think the "FATHER" is?
(1 John 1:5..........GOD IS LIGHT)
God Bless,
Taken