Does anyone else think we're close to America collapsing?

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Is not the "world" considered those who are following Satan? And, the earth is a planet...?
we might be surprised how esoteric this info is among believers though, in my informal poll roughly 80% do not get this distinction, and many even resist it by various methods?
 
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you still make it really hard to read and reply SG? America is on the verge of bankruptcy, much of the debt is even hidden...looks like China is on the same path too i guess
well, what is the diff in the earth and the world? Pls answer after the /quote :)
Yes America is doing poorly - I think there is going to be a collapse.

Still unsure what you mean about the difference in the earth and the world.
 

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we might be surprised how esoteric this info is among believers though, in my informal poll roughly 80% do not get this distinction, and many even resist it by various methods?
The world I see as being the ways of the world. Satan is the prince of this world so I agree with Nancy.
 
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Yes America is doing poorly - I think there is going to be a collapse.

Still unsure what you mean about the difference in the earth and the world.
The world is what each of is in and of himself. It was what Jesus overcame. He made it possible through his sacrifice and the Holy Ghost for each of us to do the same. A person must overcome the world in order to eat of the tree of Life... This world is not equal to planet Earth, the one physical globe which is the habitation of all of our physical bodies...
 
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Is not the "world" considered those who are following Satan?
We need to consider the context carefully.

"The world" in the Bible can mean various things: (a) all the inhabitants of the earth, (b) the unsaved of humanity, or (c) the philosophies, religions, and mind-set of those controlled by the systems of this world (which are essentially against God and Christ) and "the god of this world" (Satan).

When John says "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world", it should be clear that John is NOT speaking about the inhabitants of the world, since God so loved the world (all of humanity) that He gave his only begotten Son.

So what did John mean? What he meant was that all that is worldly and focused on self -- the lusts of the flesh, the lusts of the eyes, and the pride of life -- is opposed to God, godliness, and whatever is of the Spirit. Those who love "the world" in this sense cannot truly love God.

Also "the world" and "the earth" can be used interchangeably in the Bible, so in the end discernment is required. For example in Rev 14:19 "the vine of the earth" is a metaphor for the unbelieving, the ungodly, and the wicked.

And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth [the inhabitants of the world], and gathered the vine of the earth [the wicked] , and cast it into the great winepress [the judgments] of the wrath of God.
 
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Well that's correct.
One can read the Bible and find out what Zion is.
And then one can look to them who call themselves Zionist, there is a difference.

I have nothing against Biblical Zion, but the Satanist trick is to always put forward a front, calling or giving something a name, but it not that at all, if one knows or truly bothers to look into it.
Examples, is 'Safe Schools' in Australia is not safe at all but evil created by Sodomites to bastardise you Children's minds.
There is always a Facade and the truth behind it all is evil, much like an insurance salesman and his company, all could look great or good, but when you call on it you can find out all the games that they can play, or a political Party if you look into it you will find that it may not be truly what they claim it to be, not to mention the more you look into such the worst it gets.
You know so many things are claimed under a name, say Jew and this can be many things to many people, but what is it truly, it means one who believes in the OT and follows in it, it's not a race at all in fact, no more than Christian is a race. so we have all such delusions tempting us from the Truth, they are everywhere like weeds and thorns that work to strangle the truth.

Satanist are masters of delusions, there works are exposed by the Light and it's Jesus that is that Light and they were and are exposed by our Lord and Saviour.
I've read about Zionism but could never grasp it - until I read last night that the state of Israel isn't really the Israel God speaks of in the bible. I read that they are the definition of "The Synagogue of Satan" spoken of in Revelations. Supposedly, the banking cabal set the state of Israel up. The way I grasped it was that Zionism is belief in the state of Israel. I could be wrong, I just got into reading about it.

There is so much deception in this world. I'm wondering why God isn't doing something. I don't know how much worse things can get.
 
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Zionism was a movement which began in the 19th century to create a nation-state of Israel in Palestine (which was primarily occupied by Arabs). It was essentially secular, and meant to give the Jews of Europe a homeland. The nation-state of Israel was established in 1948 but there was much conflict. The conflict has continued ever since.
Thanks. I was reading up on it last night. So those who call themselves Zionists support the nation of Israel? I read that they're what is referred to in Revelations: The Synagogue of Satan.
 
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I've read about Zionism but could never grasp it - until I read last night that the state of Israel isn't really the Israel God speaks of in the bible. I read that they are the definition of "The Synagogue of Satan" spoken of in Revelations. Supposedly, the banking cabal set the state of Israel up. The way I grasped it was that Zionism is belief in the state of Israel. I could be wrong, I just got into reading about it.

There is so much deception in this world. I'm wondering why God isn't doing something. I don't know how much worse things can get.
God will do nothing about it, but his ways win out in the end or mans works will always fail, but how long does that take, one has to wonder.

Nothing wrong with true Biblical Zion, but the problem is that Satan works great delusions, bastardising names of things, it's like marketing ploys, such catches most people out, who do not have a good handle on the subject or are just ignorant.

Jesus pointed out the Synagogue of Satan, but that does not mean that all Jews are of Satan at all, but some Jews do believe in God and are just lost in the OT. But the so called Jews who follow the Talmud are a Synagogue of Satan for sure and I would not give such a one the time of day, because I have read enough of the Talmud books, now if any Christian would bother to read what them books of the Talmud are on about one would fall over backwards at how totally evil it is, such makes Islam look tame. it's the most horrific shocking vial books that one could ever read, the racism is totally off the chart it's beyond belief it's insane and the hatred to all who are not one of them makes Nazi Germany look tame. the Talmud preaches total Satanism and they will kill all without any regard as they regard all others as just there Cattle to be treated as such, that's what they have done for thousands of years, it's this Talmud whores that made huge money out of enslaving all the Negros, they send Islamic people out to hunt the Negros down in Africa and the ships that brought them to USA were owned by Talmud whores and then they soled the Negros, it was good money in it for them Talmud Bastards. not to mention that they are never held accountable ever for what they did, but you or your children are made to feel a shame 24/7 when you have done nothing wrong of the sort. the Satanist hide there tracks well and turn the blame on others. and it works a treat ! because it's all backed up by there Media Circus dribbling there cunning games to delude you all.
When it comes to the Natives, who is it that drew up all the legal cunning that diddled them ? Talmud so called Jews are all at the top of Legal Laws involving all this stuff as well.
Yes the Talmud Satanic Whore has had it's hooks into the world for a long time, created wars for it's own ends and the majority of people are bewitched by such mastery of this Whore dazzled by it's deceptions.
Do you all know that before Perl Harbor was attacked that the Government knew what the Japs were going to do and that the head Admiral of the Fleet totally refused to do what the President of the USA wanted him to do and he resigned over it, he was not going to let such insanity under his command happen. it was all setup, all them people were slaughtered due to that Presidents game play to get the USA into the war.
The USA had really tried every trick in the book to rile the Japs right up, so they would attack, they knew that the Japs had to due to knowing there honour customs, so the Japs had to attack or it would been seen as being cowards and that did not go down well with Japs back in the day at all, the people would of killed the Emperor if he did not act.
 

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We've turned into a police state, we're being surveilled, losing manufacturing jobs, and the culture has just degraded quickly. It looks to me as if America is circling the drain. Do others get a sense that something is about to happen? I keep thinking that we cannot go on like this. I found a good site that explains some things:

Who Is the Antichrist?
No...the tide does ebb and flow. But there is no "big finish" per say. The sand simply runs out for all (as in the days of Noah).
 

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"Collectively, the world is more stressed, worried, sad and in pain today than we've ever seen it" Gallup's managing editor, Mohamed S. Younis said in a letter in the report.
Mohamed failed to mention that Radical Islam was the root cause of all this stress and pain.
 

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We've turned into a police state, we're being surveilled, losing manufacturing jobs, and the culture has just degraded quickly. It looks to me as if America is circling the drain. Do others get a sense that something is about to happen? I keep thinking that we cannot go on like this. I found a good site that explains some things:

Lands were claimed, by nations, called:
Great Britain, France, Spain.

Men FROM those three nations, went to those Lands:
On behalf of those three nations;
To escape those three nations;
For those three nations to be rid of undesirable men.

Men from other nations, also jumped on board, to go to these new lands to escape their own nations.

Primary reasons for escape....was
Religious, Famine and Oppression.

These new Lands, with diverse men, joined together to form a New Nation of their own.

Effecting their own Religions as they pleased.
Growing herbs and crops as they pleased.
Building, Constructing, Inventing, Selling, Buying, Providing their own, as they pleased.

All under an Established Government that guaranteed; AS they pleased, they could worship, grow, build, provide for their own, without Government Intrusion.

However, BEING a Nation with Diverse men...
Not every man, was or is, interested in Worshiping something other than themselves, or building for themselves, or growing for themselves, or providing for themselves.

And when men with such mind-set, become seated in honorable seats of the Government.....with the power of a law-makers pen....THEY rewrite what was a guarantee for men to provide for themselves...TO TAKE from the PROVIDERS and POCKET for themselves and dole out some SCRAPS TO others who do not Provide for Themselves...Under the "COLOR OF LAW".

In the SPEECHES ... it sounds NOBEL.
In REALITY....it makes men, Calling themselves INDEPENDENT and FREE......
in Reality....DEPENDENTS, NOT FREE, and SUBJECT TO the Government.

The VERY Kings and Queens their ancestors FLEED from, BECAUSE THEY "were SUBJECTS" of a controlling oppressive Government....Have EFFECTIVELY convinced others, to be SUBJECT "to THEM".
Men who sit in honorable seats, and dishonor the intent of that seat.

The Downward SPIRAL in America, IS the contributed to the PEOPLE, who have had their ear tickled; That FREE means, living as a PARASITE, instead of FREE to provide for ones own.....and seating men in POWER to pepertuate the Lie.

And we should expect nothing less to continue, for it is governments, who dictate in what manner ears will be tickled....and it is routinely the majority of parents who willingly "subject" their own children TO a governments control daily, 6-8 hours a day, for 13-15 years, of a childs formative years.

In short ... Freedom in America has become, the Freedom for one to make themselves a Parasite.

Notice it? Absolutely.


Everyone who perpetuates and encourages other men to NOT lean on Christ, and instead be another mans burden.

Christ already offered men ALL they need, and the opportunity for ALL men to receive ALL they need, without being another mans burden.

THEE Anti-Christ shall be he who is positioned as THEE WORLD Leader, WORLD Wide perpetuating he is the worlds Provider For ALL mans needs. A fraud, A trickster, Tickling the Ears of men, who will willingly give Him the Consent and Authority to Rule over them.

Parasite Individuals involved in individual nations governments, do so for their own Greed, yet have NO CLUE, they are Preparing people for the WAY of Thee anti-Christ.

All participate in ushering in the Way of the Lord, be they For Him or Against Him.

God Bless,
Taken
 

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Mohamed failed to mention that Radical Islam was the root cause of all this stress and pain.
:rolleyes: yes, other ppl are your enemies now, go and fight them until they are defeated i guess, and best of luck to you
you could try another Crusade maybe :)

ah or you could send a few less $Billions to the most radical Muslims on the planet, or you could maybe shut down a couple hundred bases there on the other side of the planet where you got no business anyway, other than keeping an apartheid satellite up, lots of things you could do, see
 

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He has been breaking the Forum Rules and running TWO avatar names. It is so obvious that he was suspended as TheHolyBookEnds so he opened up an account as @Benjamin Calvary... which is not found any more...but all his posts now show up with THBE avatar.

It looks like he has been cooking the books...which speaks to Character...and not a very honest Christian one either!!! :(

XenForo has an addon that nails anyone trying to have two identities. nono.gif
 

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Mohamed failed to mention that Radical Islam was the root cause of all this stress and pain.

Hummm Used, yes...cause, no.
They have had lots of help in this invasion...George Sorus and is $$$ for one...they could never have done this them selves...they would have just continued to come in by the hundreds as they have into every country for years...but this wave of thousand at a time was all planned by the One World Government.
Everything was going too slow for their liking...so they have speeded things up...especially after Trump got in...that was not in their plan.
 
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Hummm Used, yes...cause, no.
They have had lots of help in this invasion...George Sorus and is $$$ for one...they could never have done this them selves...they would have just continued to come in by the hundreds as they have into every country for years...but this wave of thousand at a time was all planned by the One World Government.
Everything was going too slow for their liking...so they have speeded things up...especially after Trump got in...that was not in their plan.
Mystery Babylon is in full swing.
 
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