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@Soverign Grace First SG, I read that link to the web site. There is some truth to what was presented there, but there is also some skewed conclusions. The actions and thought processes of the Catholic church as presented, were actually worse than revealed there. It correctly quoted Lincoln as charging the Jesuits with fomenting the civil war, but neglected tp state that it was the Catholic church which assassinated Lincoln, and allowed his murderer to hide within the Vatican after being transported there through church 'rat-lines' in Canada.
Second, only a few of the reformers accused the individual pope (of any age) as being the antichrist. The vast majority of them came to the conclusion that it was the office of the pope, or the papacy itself, that was the Antichrist of scripture. SG, for more info I offer this...

That's the first I heard of the Catholic church assassinating Lincoln. It doesn't surprise me because everything I'd once thought was true turned out to be a lie. I'll read the links. It takes me awhile to absorb things but I'll read through it. I'm really just starting into a study of Revelations. I used to listen to it on CD but never got into any in-depth study, but now I'm seeing prophecy come to pass.

16 | January | 2012 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick./why/#more-576
03 | March | 2012 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick./antichrist-what-does-that-mean-exactly/
03 | March | 2012 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick.the-dream-becomes-reality/#more-587
And the following is an in depth study of the several characteristics of the little horn power of Daniel 7, and how each characteristic, without exception, meets the criteria demanded in order to compare with the Papal power. Every criteria,, bar none.
Characteristics of the Little Horn power of Daniel 7 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick.

@"ByGrace" TheHolyBookEnds presented truth. Sorry that so many were too lazy and disinterested to investigate further. They found it much easier, and it placated their consciences to do so, to vilify him personally and castigate him for his 'lengthy dissertations" rather than the content to be found within. To now castigate him for a 'lack of integrity' because he comes under a different name is rather short-sighted, considering most all of us write under a pseudonym. What does it matter what name we write under? I do not believe he was writing under both names at once. And considering the ignorance of peoples' reactions when he first came, what can be so wrong with him coming under a new name, and taking a new tack so that people may actually read, or watch, what he presents? And if you took the time to actually read or watch what he was presenting in this current topic, you would discover that none of it was off topic. None of it. And by the way. One doesn't need to be baptised/Christened/or 'converted to Catholicism to be Catholic. Of all institutions of religion currently active on this globe, the Catholic church would be foremost in propagating the concept of "he that is not against us, is for us". The RCC practice of allowing the incorporation or inclusion of occult and/or pagan ritualism into the church is legendary...it is the prime characteristic of papal identity. Thus anyone not actively upholding truth, which is diametrically opposed to Catholic dogma, can and will be accepted by the future Roman global apostate church/state union as Catholic, and will be granted the mark, which will be accepted by them as a badge or insignia of acceptance.

I think you have a point Brakelite. I was on another forum where I too, was vilified for bringing this topic to light and I was also accused falsely, and it hurt. We above everyone else should be treating one another with care. "My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth" - 1 John 3:18.

I did read something about the current Pope preparing for a world religion. That's frightening because Christianity is not supposed to be mixed with another religion. In fact we're warned to not do that in Scripture (I don't know the verse). Have you read that Rick Warren is mixing religions too?
 
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@Soverign Grace First SG, I read that link to the web site. There is some truth to what was presented there, but there is also some skewed conclusions. The actions and thought processes of the Catholic church as presented, were actually worse than revealed there. It correctly quoted Lincoln as charging the Jesuits with fomenting the civil war, but neglected tp state that it was the Catholic church which assassinated Lincoln, and allowed his murderer to hide within the Vatican after being transported there through church 'rat-lines' in Canada.
Second, only a few of the reformers accused the individual pope (of any age) as being the antichrist. The vast majority of them came to the conclusion that it was the office of the pope, or the papacy itself, that was the Antichrist of scripture. SG, for more info I offer this...
16 | January | 2012 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick./why/#more-576
03 | March | 2012 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick./antichrist-what-does-that-mean-exactly/
03 | March | 2012 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick.the-dream-becomes-reality/#more-587
And the following is an in depth study of the several characteristics of the little horn power of Daniel 7, and how each characteristic, without exception, meets the criteria demanded in order to compare with the Papal power. Every criteria,, bar none.
Characteristics of the Little Horn power of Daniel 7 | Brakelite's Breach Repair, Brick by Brick.

@"ByGrace" TheHolyBookEnds presented truth. Sorry that so many were too lazy and disinterested to investigate further. They found it much easier, and it placated their consciences to do so, to vilify him personally and castigate him for his 'lengthy dissertations" rather than the content to be found within. To now castigate him for a 'lack of integrity' because he comes under a different name is rather short-sighted, considering most all of us write under a pseudonym. What does it matter what name we write under? I do not believe he was writing under both names at once. And considering the ignorance of peoples' reactions when he first came, what can be so wrong with him coming under a new name, and taking a new tack so that people may actually read, or watch, what he presents? And if you took the time to actually read or watch what he was presenting in this current topic, you would discover that none of it was off topic. None of it. And by the way. One doesn't need to be baptised/Christened/or 'converted to Catholicism to be Catholic. Of all institutions of religion currently active on this globe, the Catholic church would be foremost in propagating the concept of "he that is not against us, is for us". The RCC practice of allowing the incorporation or inclusion of occult and/or pagan ritualism into the church is legendary...it is the prime characteristic of papal identity. Thus anyone not actively upholding truth, which is diametrically opposed to Catholic dogma, can and will be accepted by the future Roman global apostate church/state union as Catholic, and will be granted the mark, which will be accepted by them as a badge or insignia of acceptance.
Satan works in anything, plenty of good people in the RCC and Priest as well and plenty of Satanist in every Church.
As for the workings of Evil I believe that there are people who move in secret organisations in an attempt to undermine Christianity, they do not see themselves as evil but just doing good works for there fellow man, such people always have a chip on their shoulder and say look at all the good works we have done.
Such people are at the forefront nowadays leading the way boasting how they are going to save the world and all by their Socialist or even blatant extreme Capitalist ways, they love to be seen and look for rewards and to be idolised and not to mention they sadly are.
Talking to one Socialist the other day and I brought up that the Greens Party has said many a time that they want to wipe out 80% of the population in the world, and he said he agreed with them, saying that we do have to many people and he seen that something has to be done to achieve that target ?
Fact is that the media has not condemned such people ever for saying such madness, but they can rant how bad Hitler was, fact is Hitler never said or did wipe out 80% of the population now did he, people must be stupid to give such as the Greens any credit or there supporters they are all truly Satanic Communist not to mention that the Communist have the greatest record for killing the most people ever in history by far, so of cause such will willingly opt for a solution to there ends and I believe that they are creating all the problems in the world you could name, not to mention GMO foods are horrific as are Vaccines creating problems with so many children and then we have extremely wealthy people involved in helping 3rd world people, but are they truly helping them, in their mind yes I believe that they do, but are they treating such people as their own cattle, maybe even making them sterile, experimental gunnie pigs for cancers or whatever they wish.
The thing is I am Columbo and that if I ask question such of their motives, I end up with just to many loose ends, now they should be able to help me tie all the loose ends up but they refuse to do so and that's when Lt Columbo nose starts to get wind of something rotten is going on.

I ask why Doctors are drugging up my Mum so much, we had the luck or power of getting her into one who can get it reduced, but most people do not have that ability, but then they just up it again and we go through it all again, the GP's should have an enquiry into the way the drug company's, that I believe work to influence prescribing drugs, I had one Dr show me all the incentives they get, free holidays etc and don't think that doctors are all good people because they are not, one we know tried to bash her mum for money and threaten to throw her into the loony bin, if it was not for her other sister she would of got away with it.
So hey I do not blindly trust anyone unless they can prove themselves to be worthy of integrity.
I don't see the Governments as being Honourable at all, I see them as just a pack of cunning low life bastards sure to be sure they are pond life.
 

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ha well not 'still,' but China and satellites have been doing O&H relatively for about the last ten years, tho i guess they're about to enter their 60s now
If China is doing their 60's then why are so many Chinese people clamoring to come to the U.S.?
 

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Satan works in anything, plenty of good people in the RCC and Priest as well and plenty of Satanist in every Church.
As for the workings of Evil I believe that there are people who move in secret organisations in an attempt to undermine Christianity, they do not see themselves as evil but just doing good works for there fellow man, such people always have a chip on their shoulder and say look at all the good works we have done.
Such people are at the forefront nowadays leading the way boasting how they are going to save the world and all by their Socialist or even blatant extreme Capitalist ways, they love to be seen and look for rewards and to be idolised and not to mention they sadly are.
Talking to one Socialist the other day and I brought up that the Greens Party has said many a time that they want to wipe out 80% of the population in the world, and he said he agreed with them, saying that we do have to many people and he seen that something has to be done to achieve that target ?
Fact is that the media has not condemned such people ever for saying such madness, but they can rant how bad Hitler was, fact is Hitler never said or did wipe out 80% of the population now did he, people must be stupid to give such as the Greens any credit or there supporters they are all truly Satanic Communist not to mention that the Communist have the greatest record for killing the most people ever in history by far, so of cause such will willingly opt for a solution to there ends and I believe that they are creating all the problems in the world you could name, not to mention GMO foods are horrific as are Vaccines creating problems with so many children and then we have extremely wealthy people involved in helping 3rd world people, but are they truly helping them, in their mind yes I believe that they do, but are they treating such people as their own cattle, maybe even making them sterile, experimental gunnie pigs for cancers or whatever they wish.
The thing is I am Columbo and that if I ask question such of their motives, I end up with just to many loose ends, now they should be able to help me tie all the loose ends up but they refuse to do so and that's when Lt Columbo nose starts to get wind of something rotten is going on.

I ask why Doctors are drugging up my Mum so much, we had the luck or power of getting her into one who can get it reduced, but most people do not have that ability, but then they just up it again and we go through it all again, the GP's should have an enquiry into the way the drug company's, that I believe work to influence prescribing drugs, I had one Dr show me all the incentives they get, free holidays etc and don't think that doctors are all good people because they are not, one we know tried to bash her mum for money and threaten to throw her into the loony bin, if it was not for her other sister she would of got away with it.
So hey I do not blindly trust anyone unless they can prove themselves to be worthy of integrity.
I don't see the Governments as being Honourable at all, I see them as just a pack of cunning low life bastards sure to be sure they are pond life.
It's been proven that psychopaths seek positions of power - so that's why we have such a screwed up world. What I can't understand is why God doesn't end it already. How many lives have to be broken? I just think it's way past time for God to end this world and let heaven begin. I'm ready to live in perfect happiness, no pain, no sorrow and all the good things promised us.
 

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If China is doing their 60's then why are so many Chinese people clamoring to come to the U.S.?

Because over the last year they are doing "60's" persecution and 60's prison sentencing, and 60's schooling , and 60's 'don't you dare think for yourself anything you haven't been told that you are allowed to think. ' Both Foreigners and Chinese are getting out now, while they can...my nephew , Chinese wife, and two teenage kids just got out 4 weeks ago...after being there for 30 years.
They were purging any Christians and free thinkers...
....our own time will come...
 
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It's been proven that psychopaths seek positions of power - so that's why we have such a screwed up world. What I can't understand is why God doesn't end it already. How many lives have to be broken? I just think it's way past time for God to end this world and let heaven begin. I'm ready to live in perfect happiness, no pain, no sorrow and all the good things promised us.
We will just reap what we sow, and until we all get our act together and come to Jesus as our lord then we will all be blessed.
God does not stand in our way, we must come to know him.
We can not call him down and I think that is what many are trying to do, such will only bring about the Devil himself. such people calling him down are looking at it all wrong, the point being is it starts with you abiding in the Lord Jesus and to accept his gift, now when Jesus was here did the people accept his gift, no ! some did because they were with God because they were abiding in Holy Moses, the same would be today, the majority would not accept him in the flesh and nor would they in the Holy Spirit.
we do not fight against flesh and blood, but we abide in the Holy Spirit.

The Devil will come in great wrath over the people and that day is coming, most of the people will love this man just like they loved Hitler, he will be a great man and be seen to be doing good works, but they will not be works in Jesus Christ at all. when he is finished with the world, the world will be sadly have to wake up to him and his mob and see his evil for what it truly was, just mans works madness, nothing to do with God.

The worldly will get there god, thing is that Jesus Christ is not of this world, that is to say that he is of the Holy Spirit and the worldly people are not of the Holy Spirit.

The worldly will get there god, he will be Politically Correct a Socialist, Marxist, liberal Capitalist, Talmud, Zionist, Communist, you see that all such types are worldly and that there works are of Satan the one who leads astray the whole world. one can see this in there works.

I think we have a wonderful world and many good people and we are living in the greatest time in history, only problem we have is Sin and it's this that must be dealt with, Sin must be recognise for what it is or we have no hope.
Political Correctness is a Sin, it's foundation works are of Satan, not God and the same with Socialism, Marxism, liberal Capitalist the Talmud and their Zionist mob. have a real good look into them and you will see that they all reject Jesus Christ, so what would a true Born Again Christian want anything to do with such mobs, we do not need such shysters in our lives at all. Jesus said be gone to the Devils works and we do the same, we do not need them at all.
 

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We will just reap what we sow, and until we all get our act together and come to Jesus as our lord then we will all be blessed.
God does not stand in our way, we must come to know him.
We can not call him down and I think that is what many are trying to do, such will only bring about the Devil himself. such people calling him down are looking at it all wrong, the point being is it starts with you abiding in the Lord Jesus and to accept his gift, now when Jesus was here did the people accept his gift, no ! some did because they were with God because they were abiding in Holy Moses, the same would be today, the majority would not accept him in the flesh and nor would they in the Holy Spirit.
we do not fight against flesh and blood, but we abide in the Holy Spirit.

The Devil will come in great wrath over the people and that day is coming, most of the people will love this man just like they loved Hitler, he will be a great man and be seen to be doing good works, but they will not be works in Jesus Christ at all. when he is finished with the world, the world will be sadly have to wake up to him and his mob and see his evil for what it truly was, just mans works madness, nothing to do with God.

The worldly will get there god, thing is that Jesus Christ is not of this world, that is to say that he is of the Holy Spirit and the worldly people are not of the Holy Spirit.

The worldly will get there god, he will be Politically Correct a Socialist, Marxist, liberal Capitalist, Talmud, Zionist, Communist, you see that all such types are worldly and that there works are of Satan the one who leads astray the whole world. one can see this in there works.

I think we have a wonderful world and many good people and we are living in the greatest time in history, only problem we have is Sin and it's this that must be dealt with, Sin must be recognise for what it is or we have no hope.
Political Correctness is a Sin, it's foundation works are of Satan, not God and the same with Socialism, Marxism, liberal Capitalist the Talmud and their Zionist mob. have a real good look into them and you will see that they all reject Jesus Christ, so what would a true Born Again Christian want anything to do with such mobs, we do not need such shysters in our lives at all. Jesus said be gone to the Devils works and we do the same, we do not need them at all.

I agree mostly...but I do not see it as "one physical man"... I see it as a system driven by a few at the top...but, who knows...we will know it when it is revealed.

Like the Children of Israel in the wilderness...their sin was unbelief.
And unbelief and rejection of God and all He stand for, is the sin in this world. ...as I see it.
 
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Satan works in anything, plenty of good people in the RCC and Priest as well and plenty of Satanist in every Church.
As for the workings of Evil I believe that there are people who move in secret organisations in an attempt to undermine Christianity, they do not see themselves as evil but just doing good works for there fellow man, such people always have a chip on their shoulder and say look at all the good works we have done.
Such people are at the forefront nowadays leading the way boasting how they are going to save the world and all by their Socialist or even blatant extreme Capitalist ways, they love to be seen and look for rewards and to be idolised and not to mention they sadly are.
Talking to one Socialist the other day and I brought up that the Greens Party has said many a time that they want to wipe out 80% of the population in the world, and he said he agreed with them, saying that we do have to many people and he seen that something has to be done to achieve that target ?
Fact is that the media has not condemned such people ever for saying such madness, but they can rant how bad Hitler was, fact is Hitler never said or did wipe out 80% of the population now did he, people must be stupid to give such as the Greens any credit or there supporters they are all truly Satanic Communist not to mention that the Communist have the greatest record for killing the most people ever in history by far, so of cause such will willingly opt for a solution to there ends and I believe that they are creating all the problems in the world you could name, not to mention GMO foods are horrific as are Vaccines creating problems with so many children and then we have extremely wealthy people involved in helping 3rd world people, but are they truly helping them, in their mind yes I believe that they do, but are they treating such people as their own cattle, maybe even making them sterile, experimental gunnie pigs for cancers or whatever they wish.
The thing is I am Columbo and that if I ask question such of their motives, I end up with just to many loose ends, now they should be able to help me tie all the loose ends up but they refuse to do so and that's when Lt Columbo nose starts to get wind of something rotten is going on.

I ask why Doctors are drugging up my Mum so much, we had the luck or power of getting her into one who can get it reduced, but most people do not have that ability, but then they just up it again and we go through it all again, the GP's should have an enquiry into the way the drug company's, that I believe work to influence prescribing drugs, I had one Dr show me all the incentives they get, free holidays etc and don't think that doctors are all good people because they are not, one we know tried to bash her mum for money and threaten to throw her into the loony bin, if it was not for her other sister she would of got away with it.
So hey I do not blindly trust anyone unless they can prove themselves to be worthy of integrity.
I don't see the Governments as being Honourable at all, I see them as just a pack of cunning low life bastards sure to be sure they are pond life.
I have to agree with you on many points. I wonder how God expects us to navigate this world sometimes as it's gotten so corrupt. Once your eyes are fully opened then you see what this world really is.
 

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Because over the last year they are doing "60's" persecution and 60's prison sentencing, and 60's schooling , and 60's 'don't you dare think for yourself anything you haven't been told that you are allowed to think. ' Both Foreigners and Chinese are getting out now, while they can...my nephew , Chinese wife, and two teenage kids just got out 4 weeks ago...after being there for 30 years.
They were purging any Christians and free thinkers...
....our own time will come...
It's only a matter of time before it happens in America.
 
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We will just reap what we sow, and until we all get our act together and come to Jesus as our lord then we will all be blessed.
God does not stand in our way, we must come to know him.
We can not call him down and I think that is what many are trying to do, such will only bring about the Devil himself. such people calling him down are looking at it all wrong, the point being is it starts with you abiding in the Lord Jesus and to accept his gift, now when Jesus was here did the people accept his gift, no ! some did because they were with God because they were abiding in Holy Moses, the same would be today, the majority would not accept him in the flesh and nor would they in the Holy Spirit.
we do not fight against flesh and blood, but we abide in the Holy Spirit.

The Devil will come in great wrath over the people and that day is coming, most of the people will love this man just like they loved Hitler, he will be a great man and be seen to be doing good works, but they will not be works in Jesus Christ at all. when he is finished with the world, the world will be sadly have to wake up to him and his mob and see his evil for what it truly was, just mans works madness, nothing to do with God.

The worldly will get there god, thing is that Jesus Christ is not of this world, that is to say that he is of the Holy Spirit and the worldly people are not of the Holy Spirit.

The worldly will get there god, he will be Politically Correct a Socialist, Marxist, liberal Capitalist, Talmud, Zionist, Communist, you see that all such types are worldly and that there works are of Satan the one who leads astray the whole world. one can see this in there works.

I think we have a wonderful world and many good people and we are living in the greatest time in history, only problem we have is Sin and it's this that must be dealt with, Sin must be recognise for what it is or we have no hope.
Political Correctness is a Sin, it's foundation works are of Satan, not God and the same with Socialism, Marxism, liberal Capitalist the Talmud and their Zionist mob. have a real good look into them and you will see that they all reject Jesus Christ, so what would a true Born Again Christian want anything to do with such mobs, we do not need such shysters in our lives at all. Jesus said be gone to the Devils works and we do the same, we do not need them at all.
What is a Zionist?
 

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If China is doing their 60's then why are so many Chinese people clamoring to come to the U.S.?
especially since the supposed cream of the crop here all believe the sky is falling, huh? You don't see too many immigrants complaining about any sky falling once they get here i guess. Ppl seek to associate themselves with the perceived winners, there is a way that seems right to a man, that ends in death? I haven't bothered to go look, but it wouldn't surprise me if Chinese immigration to America has declined
Soooo you left the world eh? In your dreams?
what is the diff in the earth and the world, in your opinion?
It's been proven that psychopaths seek positions of power - so that's why we have such a screwed up world. What I can't understand is why God doesn't end it already. How many lives have to be broken? I just think it's way past time for God to end this world and let heaven begin. I'm ready to live in perfect happiness, no pain, no sorrow and all the good things promised us.
the only thing standing in your way is you, wadr, and God already knows that the blood will run up to a horse's bridle for 1600 stadia, neither of which are just like arbitrary measurements or anything. So i mean no offense here ok, but it seems like even what you have is maybe being taken from you, in the context of you v immigrants in America, say?

anyway, just to put your mind at ease, what you envision is not ever going to happen, the kingdom of heaven is within you, and does not come by observation
 
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especially since the supposed cream of the crop here all believe the sky is falling, huh? You don't see too many immigrants complaining about any sky falling once they get here i guess. Ppl seek to associate themselves with the perceived winners, there is a way that seems right to a man, that ends in death? I haven't bothered to go look, but it wouldn't surprise me if Chinese immigration to America has declined

Maybe it has, but there are a lot of Chinese in CA. Are you saying that China is doing better economically than America? I'm actually thinking of moving out of the country at some point. I think it's gotten too bad here in many respects. My cousin moved to Puerto Rico - but he can afford to have two homes.

what is the diff in the earth and the world, in your opinion?
the only thing standing in your way is you, wadr, and God already knows that the blood will run up to a horse's bridle for 1600 stadia, neither of which are just like arbitrary measurements or anything. So i mean no offense here ok, but it seems like even what you have is maybe being taken from you, in the context of you v immigrants in America, say?

Not too sure what you're saying here.

anyway, just to put your mind at ease, what you envision is not ever going to happen, the kingdom of heaven is within you, and does not come by observation
 

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What is a Zionist?
Well that's correct.
One can read the Bible and find out what Zion is.
And then one can look to them who call themselves Zionist, there is a difference.

I have nothing against Biblical Zion, but the Satanist trick is to always put forward a front, calling or giving something a name, but it not that at all, if one knows or truly bothers to look into it.
Examples, is 'Safe Schools' in Australia is not safe at all but evil created by Sodomites to bastardise you Children's minds.
There is always a Facade and the truth behind it all is evil, much like an insurance salesman and his company, all could look great or good, but when you call on it you can find out all the games that they can play, or a political Party if you look into it you will find that it may not be truly what they claim it to be, not to mention the more you look into such the worst it gets.
You know so many things are claimed under a name, say Jew and this can be many things to many people, but what is it truly, it means one who believes in the OT and follows in it, it's not a race at all in fact, no more than Christian is a race. so we have all such delusions tempting us from the Truth, they are everywhere like weeds and thorns that work to strangle the truth.

Satanist are masters of delusions, there works are exposed by the Light and it's Jesus that is that Light and they were and are exposed by our Lord and Saviour.
 

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What is a Zionist?
Zionism was a movement which began in the 19th century to create a nation-state of Israel in Palestine (which was primarily occupied by Arabs). It was essentially secular, and meant to give the Jews of Europe a homeland. The nation-state of Israel was established in 1948 but there was much conflict. The conflict has continued ever since.
 

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Are you saying that China is doing better economically than America?
you still make it really hard to read and reply SG? America is on the verge of bankruptcy, much of the debt is even hidden...looks like China is on the same path too i guess
Not too sure what you're saying here.
well, what is the diff in the earth and the world? Pls answer after the /quote :)
 

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you still make it really hard to read and reply SG? America is on the verge of bankruptcy, much of the debt is even hidden...looks like China is on the same path too i guess
well, what is the diff in the earth and the world? Pls answer after the /quote :)
Is not the "world" considered those who are following Satan? And, the earth is a planet...?
 
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