This is from the OP, but I repeat it again later in the thread several times. THIS is the problem I take issue with:
We all have different opinions about what constitutes heresy and what doesn't. I understand that. What I take issue with is people repeatedly and consistently ignoring those who makes counter-arguments against what they teach, and then turn around and create a new thread espousing the EXACT same thing while professing that no one can refute their arguments. It is trolling.
See Chris
We know this is "not Church"... Church meeting order does not apply.
The only Rules are the
Forum rules.
There are other people of this forum that repeatedly post their pet subject ad-nauseum. It annoys me, and I can post back and 'have my say'. And often not very friendly because I allow it to 'get to me.'
But they are not breaking FORUM RULES.
No rule says that we must respond and defend our posted statements.
This is what you have allowed to annoy and frustrate you here.
I agree that IF the person has posted a thread in the
Debate section...
then yes, they should respond to questions and posts.
I remember when you started a thread ( forgotten the subject matter)...and it wore you out , because the responses came fast back to you and you answered every one....and not everyone was 'against' you as they are in this case...
When a person is being disagreed with...and the responses come fast and furious back...a person would have to be on here all day responding to the speedy rebuttals.
Another reason I cannot agree with you here, is that I am just as guilty.
Unless I want to stay here constantly and defend what I say...I wont start a thread in the Debate section.
So I am guilty of the same... I started a thread about 18 months or more ago.
I wanted to say what I wanted to say...I felt a deep need to state what and why I believed what I believe. And I had no intention of defending it...
If people have not seen what I believe I have seen in God's word, and that which I believe He has proved to us in His word. Then fine, I can state what I have seen about grace , love etc ...and and I can pray that God opens peoples eyes to also see...but it is not my place, neither my job to try and convince other people about what I believe. It is their place to do their own seeking and not just believe everything that comes at the traditionally across the pulpits. If they are lazy and do not search things out for themselves... that is upon them. Some just love to sit and listen to some teacher or other, and never search, pray, or wait , for themselves.
Therefore I do not debate very often what I believe, "for me" it is just not up for 'debate'.
You see Chris. We are probably are all different. My way of doing things is not your way. I tend to just "drip out" the things I believe in deeply.
I don't do the "in your face" way of things.
The two big issues in my life after being saved..were 1) The Sonship message, and 2) The final restoration of all things ( Acts 3 .21)
Someone, 'in passing' ... dropped a few crumbs....the latter took almost
a decade of weighing scriptures , praying for answers , and listening to the Holy Spirit...( until one day the heavens opened)
We each must stand firm on what we believe we have heard in the inner ear from God. Somethings for me are not up for Debate. Others can receive them, or throw them out when I drop crumbs.
I see this case in point no differently.
You don't agree with what is posted in that thread, fine...just state you rebuttal and what 'you' see as truth, and allow everyone else to do the same!
This is a case , as I believe
@Willie T mentioned Acts 5.
33
"When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.
34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;
35 And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. ....
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."
Chris, it is God's business. And I say again.
A Christian Forum , is just that, it is
not a church meeting or gathering...it is just " A Forum" ...and like the old ancient forums ..anyone can get up on his hind legs and speak.
Bless you...Helen