Not to beat a dead horse but again, i don't know anyone who currently believes in eternal security of the believer (as i do) and at the same time think they can sit on the couch binging on netflix until they die because in their minds their ticket to heaven has been punched.
On the contrary. Those that i see regularly are not only fruit producing but very conscious of the lack of fruit in our lives. Its the ' i know i could have done more ' scenario. And one more thing. Eternal life isn't obtained by a 'living faith'. As though you are working your tail off for the kingdom and when you die then and only then do you know if you did enough. A living faith is simply proof of that life of God inside us. They will know us by our fruit. Fruit is the evidence of the saved, its not the cause.
I have spent years, literally talking to a group who very much believe they can have no fruit and still be saved.
They do so far as to say if you believe anything you do is part of being accepted by God, then that is adding to
Christs work, so devaluing its worth and beauty.
To suggest Jesus said fruitless trees are doomed is for them heresy and self righteous justification and the opposite
of the gospel. They will get so angry if they were allowed it would be a torrent of expletives.
And this is why I understand the fruit of such a belief and also the blindness involved. One simple reason why I oppose
such things is doing evil and harming others is the opposite of love and truly grievous, yet to these folk evil is not relevant,
but rather daring to suggest man could be called worthy in Christ and walk in His ways. They regard this as anti-Christ, and
treat brothers and sisters in Christ as the enemy for testifying to the work of the Lord in their hearts.
I had a conversation on the principle a believer went and murdered someone and left the faith, in their eyes they are still
saved and secure. I exposed one believer who was abusive and swearing, a real gun toting right winger, and there view
was this was fine, acceptable to the Lord because their sin was forgiven past present and future. For exposing this believer
I was banned from the site. So truth, honesty, integrity and justice are simply no longer relevant to these folk.