farouk
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The media can often act as a lie machine.I try to read up on biography/history. I just don't trust the news or media.
"Thy Word is truth" (John 17.17) is the real way. :)
(I really like history and biography also...)
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The media can often act as a lie machine.I try to read up on biography/history. I just don't trust the news or media.
But neither is anyone else. It works exactly the same way for all of us. I pray for Trump. But it doesn't erase what he is, what even republicans have admitted that he is.
The media can often act as a lie machine.
"Thy Word is truth" (John 17.17) is the real way. :)
(I really like history and biography also...)
Sir I do not care to debate this anymore...
Donald Trump is the president, period.
You are coming in after a long debate and stirring up controversy.
I'm just pointing out that none of us are responsible for what other people say. There are unhinged people who hate Obama for (you know) and others who hate Trump for (lots of other reasons), but most who criticize these two men aren't deranged or consumed with hate.
President, not dictator. Hence his failures; he doesn't know how to work with others to get things done.
If I'm tired of a discussion, I leave it and thereby lower my blood pressure. Worth a try?
Likewise, a witch hunt of speculations such as yours is equally not ahead of its time, but repeated human folly.This conversation is not profitable. How many people throughout history have been vilified for seeing things before others? People used to think the world was flat, that people couldn't fly, and that germs weren't the cause of disease even as the naysayers poo-poohed it. From Feminism To Submarines: 5 People With Ideas Way Ahead Of Their Time
“Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
It's up to each person to do their own research.
Well, I'm a tea person...I say no coffee...
The media can often act as a lie machine.
"Thy Word is truth" (John 17.17) is the real way. :)
(I really like history and biography also...)
Ive heard people say obama is the antichrist, Trump is the antichrist. I say no coffee is antichrist.I agree President Trump has a lot to learn about being a president. I also believe that the hate for this president is more dangerous then him hisself. I would be leery of a president everyone loves and seems to do nothing wrong. But if there was one I thought would be a better fit with all the same values President Trump expresses, especially abortion, then I would consider a change. So far President Trump is the only one who is a strong pro life. Not even the other republican who stepped forward to challenge trump who seems to be for abortion.
Ive heard people say obama is the antichrist, Trump is the antichrist. I say no coffee is antichrist.I agree President Trump has a lot to learn about being a president. I also believe that the hate for this president is more dangerous then him hisself. I would be leery of a president everyone loves and seems to do nothing wrong. But if there was one I thought would be a better fit with all the same values President Trump expresses, especially abortion, then I would consider a change. So far President Trump is the only one who is a strong pro life. Not even the other republican who stepped forward to challenge trump who seems to be for abortion.
Likewise, a witch hunt of speculations such as yours is equally not ahead of its time, but repeated human folly.
Ive heard people say obama is the antichrist, Trump is the antichrist. I say no coffee is antichrist.I agree President Trump has a lot to learn about being a president. I also believe that the hate for this president is more dangerous then him hisself. I would be leery of a president everyone loves and seems to do nothing wrong. But if there was one I thought would be a better fit with all the same values President Trump expresses, especially abortion, then I would consider a change. So far President Trump is the only one who is a strong pro life. Not even the other republican who stepped forward to challenge trump who seems to be for abortion.
I base my position on personal experience speaking with Trump.I'm disappointed in you ScottA - I've interacted with you on here before and you have not been this ugly. You hurt someone else on here and I don't appreciate it. You know Scripture: "You reap what you sow" and by your abuse of another you are bringing trouble down on your own head. It also diminishes you as a person. The mean-spiritedness is uncalled for and not what Christians are called to. This is the kind of unchristian behavior I expect out of Willie - not you. Why bother being on a Christian site - why not join a secular one? This is the type of behavior suited to that.
It really must hit a nerve with you. I know that you are defending Trump because you think that he is trying to Make America Great Again and really has our best interests at heart. I would defend someone who I felt was truly doing this also, and I did defend Trump early on. I was asked to work on his re-election campaign. So I fully understand and grasp your POV. I defended him just like you.
It was after Trump let me down over and over that I just could not in good conscience look the other way. I saw that he wasn't Making America Great Again IT WAS ALL TALK TO FOOL CHRISTIANS. I really began to look into the issues and learned things I can't un-read.
Trump has not done what he said he'd do. I had to be honest with myself. Tucker Carlson faced the truth: Tucker Carlson: Let's face it, Trump hasn't kept his campaign promises
Pastor Baldwin has spoken out against the fawning of America's pastors over Trump, some of which I don't believe are spiritually regenerated:
You felt clever I'm sure with your "Nanu Nanu" - but if you knew what you were talking about, which you don't, you'd know that satanists and Freemasons COMMUNICATE THROUGH HAND GESTURES. THEY COMMUNICATE USING SPECIAL HANDSHAKES:
Secret Masonic Handshakes, Passwords, Signs and Grips for the Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason Degrees of Blue Lodge Freemasonry
Codex Magica - 3
Masonic Hand Signs Explained: Hand Signals of Freemasonry
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Common Masonic Hand Signs
Freemasons use various hand signals to show their allegiance to satan, and to signal to their fellow freemasons their membership in the occult organization. These hand signals are usually flashed in public by various world leaders and celebrities, while the unsuspecting masses remain ignorant. Like various Illuminati symbols, only Illuminati/freemasonry insiders are aware of the true meanings hidden behind the signs and hand gestures.
In this article, we discuss two of the most common hand signals of freemasonry: The devil’s horn, and the hidden hand.
Masonic Hand Sign: The Devil’s Horn
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The devil’s horn freemason hand signal, as contained in the Satanic bible.
The “devil’s horn” signal signifies that satan rules. Remember that satan is called the “Horned God”, and the hand signal is formed so as to resemble horns.
It is a universal hand signal used by politicians, celebrities as well as heavy metal bands, affirming their allegiance to satanic powers and a visual shorthand for “Hail, Satan.” The devil’s hand has been observed and photographed around the world, used by George Bush, Bill Clinton, Silvio Berlusconi, Elizabeth Taylor, Prince William, Paul McCartney, Metallica, Ozzie, Avril Lavigne, Stephen Dorff, Dave Navarro and many others.
This hand symbol is known by several names: Devil’s Triad, Il Cornuto, Cornuto, the Horn, Horned Devil, Twin-horned Salute, Horned Hand, Devil Salute, and Devil Horn Salute. The Devil’s triad is a recognition sign among Satanists and witches.
Isn’t this the Deaf Hand Signal for “I Love You”?
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Self-proclaimed German vampire Manuela Ruda
The “devil’s horn” hand sign is another popular sign used by Freemasons. Self-proclaimed German vampire Manuela Ruda was seen flashing the masonic “devil’s horn” signal inside the court – that is, while court hearings against her were happening. She was eventually convicted for murder. This couldn’t have been Manuela Ruda flashing an “I love you” sign inside the court, given the circumstances, right?
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Beyonce, in one of her performances, shows the devil’s horn hand signal (left hand), bottom.
Contemporary Leaders and Celebrities Using the Devil’s Horn Signal
Below are just a few of the more popular contemporary leaders who have publicly used the devil’s horn hand signal:
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President George Bush flashing the devil’s horn hand signal.
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President Barack Obama flashing the devil’s horn hand signal.
Masonic Hand Sign: The Hidden Hand
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Could it be just a coincidence that all of these famous men and women, when posing for a picture or portrait, hid one of their hands?
Another popular masonic hand sign is the “hidden hand”. The paintings and pictures of the great men of the past centuries reveal a common thread which links them together. Is it a coincidence that many of them hid one of their hands when posing for a portrait? It seems unlikely. We’ll look at the Masonic origin of the “hidden hand” and the powerful men who used the sign in famous portraits.
Most of the people using this sign are proven (and often enthusiastic) members of the Freemasons. Considering the great importance of this gesture in Masonic rituals and the fact that all of the elite were either part of Freemasonry or knew of it, it is simply impossible that the recurrence of this sign could be the result of a coincidence. The “hidden hand” can, in fact, be found in the rituals of the Royal Arch Degree of Freemasonry and the world leaders that use this sign are subtly saying to other initiates of the order: “This is what I’m part of, this is what I believe in and this is what I’m working for”.
This hand gesture is said to be inspired by Exodus 4:6. In this biblical verse, the heart (“bosom”) stands for what we are, the hand for what we do. It can thus be interpreted as: What we are is what we ultimately do.
I fear voting for any politician based on one issue - this includes voting democratic because the person is a women or voting republican because the person is prochoice, or a populist like Trump for the same reason