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Sin never disappeared like magic but the consequence of sin was removed, men love to boast and create big words.
Amen.If you want to know who is the heretic, walk and talk like Jesus and see who cannot cope.
Amen.
If Jesus had only learned to stay quiet, instead of obeying His Father,
He would not have been crucified.
If we would only learn to be silent... instead of obeying His and our Father in heaven,
we would not be persecuted by those opposed to Him.
Without GOD's Holiness, we shall not see God, is what you mean to say, but dont understand.
= God's holiness is Justification by faith, the "gift of Righteousness".
All the born again have this, because its what we are BECOME.
My Definition of Grace?
What do I know, that happens to sin when we are REDEEMED FROM IT by the BLOOD?
That is your question?....Ok.
Its not that God can't see sin in the born again...
Its that Its not THERE.....As Its ALL been taken by Christ 2000 yrs ago on THE CROSS, when He died to become our sin, and bear it, and to forgive it.
Its not just covered, its REMOVED, its REMITTED, its GONE.
Our "sin" has been REPLACED by GOD's RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Is that clear enough?
There is No SIN in Christ, as its been dealt with BY Jesus's Blood and The CROSS.
The born again are "in Christ".
When we are born again, we become a part of God's HOLY SPIRIT. = New Creation IN Christ.
We are BORN AGAIN, into GOD's SPIRIT......We are ONE With God and Christ.
No sin found there, deceiver.
Not ever.
"well, the heretic says...what if you fall out of Christ, what if you walk away"..
"what if pink cows can fly, and Dogs can shuffle cards'.""
Its about the same thing.....theologically speaking.
You can't stop being BORN, so, you can't stop being BORN AGAIN.
This is a place of Spiritual EXISTENCE that GOD CAUSED and GOD KEEPS for you, for ETERNITY.
ETERNAL LIFE is OURS, as Jesus Himself is Eternal LIFE< and He is IN all the Born again.
SO, if you have Jesus, you have Eternal life, and He is not going to leave your BODY because you are a part of HIS SPIRIT, and HE IS YOURS.
"born again".
"God who Began salvation in the born again, will HIMSELF< be faithful to complete it"..
I don't pretend. And if it isn't real, I don't partake. For instance, I don't fall down pretending I've been slain in the Spirit. But I do know of people that were knocked flat by the power of God. That used to happen to kitchen workers when Kathryn Kuhlman used to walk through the kitchen to the elevator. It also happened to the Roman soldiers when they arrested Jesus after he prayed in the Garden.
I see you chopped off what I said prior, that I know I am saved. The OSAS taught in the church today is not that of the Bible. I agree with the Bible, just not with what you are teaching it means, nor those who made that acronym.
Still not sure where you are coming from, must of experienced something somewhere.
That is a real misrepresentation of the gifts of the Spirit from someone who probably just doesn't have any.
Just my humble opinion here....Jesus led by example...He taught His disciples His Truth with gentleness and patience....yes He did scold them for their weak faith...saying have I been with you so long and you still lack faith?...or saying O Ye of little faith....
But then He taught some more...until they could understand it...and when the Holy Spirit came upon them is when they began to preach the Word with signs and wonders following.
But the way some people are preaching and teaching His Word...the only thing following is anger and strife.
yep. we disagree.
if you are saved, the devil is a cautionary tale of what could have happen.
you cannot have it both ways.
Your goal is to help people stopping sinning. Then people need to want to change, repent, humble themselves before the cross.
What is a haretic? I don't really know as they are so small you can hardly see them.
Then after His ministry was complete He asked the Father to give Him back the glory of God He had with the Father before the world was.
OSAS, is not a doctrine.
Who taught you this lie?
The danger is not to believe that the same Jesus who saved you, keeps you save, (OSAS) but the danger is to disagree with this truth.
See what you wrote.???? its exactly wrong.
Im going to paraphrase you...
You said..>"if people want to stop sinning, they need to repent".
So, this is exactly the problem.... See, if you are repenting, you are SINNING. And "humbling yourself before the Cross", is just a phrase that sounds spiritual, actually, but wont deliver you from your sinning and repenting issue.
So, to stop sinning you have to stop resisting it the wrong way, as by resisting it by will, you enable the Law to cause you to want to sin more.
That is why you can't stop sinning. (committing works of the Flesh).
Resisting sin, by will , by "flesh", empowers the Law's dominion to enflame your passion to sin. It actually activates your lust to do that sin, or all of them.
So, as 20+ Threads have been teaching..... you should actually read one...... To stop sinning you have to stop believing wrong.
Its the wrong believing that has a person sinning and confessing and trapped in that vicious cycle of trying to stop sinning which causes you to want to sin more, = "The power of SIN, is the LAW".
Hi Behold,
I do agree with some of your posts but, will not get on these threads and speak about something I really don't understand . I know what you believe and it makes me wonder what you think of the following scripture verse:
26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:26-31
Thank you!
nancy
When children are raised right, in the way they should go, they will not unrighteously go from peaceful and quiet to extreme anger at all.