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There is one, narrow path to heaven; and few there be that find it.

Jesus said it; I believe it; that settles it.

John 14:6 is a companion scripture to Matthew 7:13-14.
 
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I think what he was saying was that those books contain passages which have often been misused to the destruction of the hearer, more like that.

And that's true, I think. Not that the books are bad for you, but many people who didn't understanding they were reading have caused themselves and others a lot of needless anguish.

Much love!
See Psalms 105:17-19.

Sometimes the word of the Lord will test the believer to see what he is made of.
 

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You had a question for me that turned into your usual anti-scriptural "look at me" BLOG that you create on all my Threads.
So, isn't it great that i keep posting Threads for you to waste time on, seeing that you are not able to post one for yourself, unless its about me, or its one you say you wrote, 50 yrs ago.
You have inner problems, son.
I hope you are able to get them worked out.

So, let me explain "sinneth not".

If you are born again, then John is talking to you in that verse.
He's explaining, as Paul does..... that we are "new creations".
Our old man is DEAD and we are by new birth, become a NEW CREATION.
THAT is who we are, in God's perspective.
This NEVER changes.


Your problem, one of them, justbyfaith, is that you see yourself as the "flesh", as its in the flesh where all lust, sin, hate, sin, sin, sin, works of the FLESH, is found.
You constantly want to prove to us that you are a sinner who has indwelling sin.
OK, we got it 3 weeks ago before you told us 35 more times.
We know you have a sin problem, and we know you like to talk about yourself as a sinner.
We HEARD you.

Now, to correct this, is to discern what John is talking about in your verse.
See, unlike you, these Men are Spiritual.
They talk in Spiritual Language that bounces off your carnal mind. This is why you read verses & then always try to teach them based on your fleshy failed reasoning.
This is why you read my Threads but can't SEE the Light that is In them.

So, John is explaining to you that there is the flesh, but we are not the flesh. So, its our BORN AGAIN SPIRIT MAN, that is sinless, at all times, that abides so, and cannot Sin.
its Impossible for the Blood of Jesus to miss one.
The blood of Jesus has in fact taken care of ALL sin.. Colossians 2:13
THe Blood Of Jesus is a continuing Atonement, that exist as an ETERNAL Sanctification.
However, its not sanctifying your flesh, or as you define yourself, "my indwelling sin part"...
The good news is......God does not see that part of you.
God is a HOLY SPIRIT who does not SEE anything except the Spiritual, regarding the Born again.
He sees us as Completed, "IN CHRIST"< = Equal to Himself in Righteousness =at all TIMES.
That is what John is explaining.


You dont see yourself there, because Hebrews and bad teachers flipped your faith into the abyss of SELF, long ago.
That is why you always talk about YOURSELF as a sinner, and never do you understand who you are because of the Cross, and the "Finished work of Jesus on the Cross".
Most can't grasp the idea that Jesus doesn't come down and indwell some filthy animal to enhance to drempt up goodness that already exists within. No He's a quickening Spirit that gives new birth new creation. The filthy animal is destroyed, scripture states we die daily this implying one day at a time
 

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You forgot about the transformation of character that happens to the ones who are truly born again.

The law is written on the hearts and in the minds of those who are under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4).

We bear the fruit of the Spirit, against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23)

As the result we have the righteousness of God in us which is apart from the law; which is nevertheless attested to by the law and the prophets (Romans 3:21).

We obtain this righteousness by faith (Galatians 3:14, Romans 5:5). For the love of God is the righteousness of God. It is given to us as a free gift (Romans 5:17, Romans 5:15-19).

I know I'm preaching; and to some it may appear to be foolishness.

See 1 Corinthians 1:18-21.
but there are contradictions right? that is why there is still a law or not really contradiction is just that you did not get it or am i
 

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@Behold has said that he believes that those three books will destroy a man's faith.

Can anything written, that would do such a thing, be inspired of God?



I don't see that at all.



As a child of God I exist in the light. When I fail to believe, and sin as the result, the Holy Spirit convicts, so that I can return to Him.

My position, in Christ, before the Father, has not changed in my having sinned; I can come boldly to the throne of grace to find mercy and grace to help in time of need.

But when I bring my sins before the light of God's presence, He sees my sins and then does something about them...He cleanses me with His blood from their attachment to my soul and the detrimental effect that such a thing might have on me.
Sin exists in the presence of God?
 

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For some it's impossible to understand that not all scripture is written specifically to them. In the book of Hebrews Paul is speaking to Jewish men who are not born again. He is telling them as Jesus was telling the scribes and Pharisees when they had witnessed the miracles of God. They had to except that the signs and wonders which were the real supernatural, not this crazy stuff you see people claiming today. These were truly the works of God, so they had to reconcile is this God or is it the works of Satan, because these are the only two options. Paul is conveying the same message to Jews in Hebrews. Imagine they had seen signs and wonders wrought by a true apostle of God, this is what he's telling them, that after receiving a full revelation of Christ if they return to Judaism there is no way possible they can be saved.
 

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Ok thanks for your response....
There was a time when i was looking for another church but with so many it got too confusing so i stayed in the church i was born in...

With the whole born again thing i have a question or two...
- What makes you think that your are declared "saved" before you die?
The Bible says that we need to be born again to be saved but where does it say we are saved while still on this earth?

There’s nothing better than a “ soft ball” question, is there ? Lol....John 5:24.....” He that hears My Word, and Believes on the One that sent me, ALREADY HAS EVERLASTING LIFE , and shall NOT come into Condemnation for their Sins .....they have ALREADY passed from Death into Life” ......Leaping Lizards! Does it GET any better than this? Can it “BE” any plainer? What an Amazing God we serve! Many reduce the Christian Walk to “ Don’t Do This and Do Do That.” What a way to live.Somebody once said, “ Your God is too Small. Too often that is the case....
Paul said “The Just shall LIVE by FAITH”....... Faith is Believing and Acting on the Promises Of God.Ill leave it to others to be obsessed with the Sins that Christ already died for......See the Bible as a List Of Rules if you so desire.Before one dies , I hope they can spend at least spend “ONE DAY” viewing the Bible as a Book full of Fantastic Promises to Believe and bask in , as opposed to being a “Rule Book” That has as its result, a person that is “SIN” conscience as opposed to being “ SON” conscience....
Faith is 90% COURAGE (check out David and Goliath) and 10% all the other Hogwash you have been taught all of your Church Lives ....Start Acting on the Promises Of God...Give your Heavenly Father The GOLD He desires— Your FAITH —- NOT your pitiful attempts at Perfection —- and watch how the Sin In Your life decreases and the Obedience in your life “ increases” without your having to work NEAR as hard as you think you do......maybe not at all.....that has been the Case with me....if God we’re to instill any more JOY than He already has in my life, I think I may explode!
“The Man who Finds Life will find it by TRUSTING GOD.” I sincerely believe that I have “ found Life”. Did not Jesus Promise Believers “ Abundant Life?”.....so what’s the hold-up? Is your Faith Walk no more than a constant grind of trying to carry the immense load upon your shoulders of keeping up a Performance and to consider a life of peace and joy is no more than a “ pipe dream.” Perhaps it is time to Change Tactics—— stop “ trying” to be Saved, and start “ Trusting” to be Saved.....God is full of Grace.....ask Him for a few days off in regard to your “ trying to be good” ......see if He will allow you the Freedom to “ Do what you Want” ........just for the heck Of it ......see if anything happens in your Life.....May God bless you in the understanding of these things......
 

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In 1 John 3:6 it says that the one who abideth in Christ "sinneth not."

So, if I therefore commit a sin, have I not ceased to abide in Christ?
If He that is Perfect lives within you, then you can answer His challenge immediately:
Mat. 5[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Bto be "perfect" is a thing to do, but rather a state of being!
 

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The reality is........The Blood of Christ has already cleansed our Sin.....all of it.....>Tomorrow's included.
If you don't understand this, and you have been falsely taught that your sin till the Cross is forgiven, and you then get God to take care of the new ones, by repenting, ... = you have been mislead and are practicing a waste of your time.

If you'll take your NT and turn to Colossians 2:13 AND THEN Romans 4:8, you will find an amazing discovery that, if you will believe it, will transform your Life in Christ.

Colossians 2:13 ...Paul teaches you that ALL your sin is gone, forgiven, remitted, redeemed, by Christ on the Cross.
Roman 4:8 Paul then confirms that God does not ever again, hold you accountable for your sin, in eternity.
He can't, as all your sin, ALL OF IT, Paul just told you is taken care of by Jesus on the Cross as the Blood Atonement.
So, your sin is gone, and when you are confessing and repenting of what is not being charged to you, you are wasting your Christian Life.
God does not re-clean you, every time you mess up and tell Him you are sorry.
He has already CLEANED you with the Blood of Jesus, 2000 yrs ago.
Now, when you can SEE THIS, you have taken your first real steps inside the Grace of God, as Right Believing.

Romans 5:20 "Where SIN abounds...Grace moreso Abounds".... = means....when you sin, (works of the Flesh ) after you are saved, the Blood Atonement has already paid for that one ALSO.... It means that when you sin a year from now, on a Monday morning, just before you come here to argue about OSAS, and you sin again (works of the Flesh)....THE CROSS has already taken care of that one also.
Realize the revelation that something that happened 2000+ years ago on a CROSS, is STILL your Salvation 20 yrs from NOW !
Saint, if God didnt take care of all your sin when you were saved, you'd be hell bound the same day you were born again.
You can't save yourself, and you can't keep yourself CLEAN.
You have to TRUST IN CHRIST at some point, with real Faith, so that your walk of faith is inside the Grace of God, trusting in CHRIST ALONE to KEEP YOU SAVED.
Until you can see this, and start to exist there in your MIND, then you will live outside the understanding of the Grace of God and continue to exist as a confessing repenting Discipleship FAILURE.

If a Legalist-Heretic.... could actually comprehend that you can't out-sin the BLOOD of CHRIST, that this blood has actively and permanently SOLVED your "sin" issue, then what a happy Christian they would be, as then they could actually Trust Christ totally., and not just partly.
This is why Jesus died for you. Its what He's doing on the Cross. He is Paying for (cleansing) our sin, from us, by dying FOR IT ALL.
And He DID.

Amazing how many people who claim to be Christians can't even begin to comprehend SALVATION.
Legalists don't understand that the CROSS is a completed work (Blood Atonement), so, they reach into the bible with eyes closed and spiritual mind locked.... and never care to learn or realize that not every verse is aimed at a born again believer.

Now, for the sake of those of you who have not been taught anything about your NT,.... Scriptures in the NT, and OT< are sometimes literal, sometimes symbolic, and sometimes allegorical....in meaning.
For example, "all who call on the name of Jesus, shall be SAVED"...is literal.
But, "take this cup, as its the blood of the New Covenant".. this can't be LITERAL, as Jesus's Blood is still in HIS BODY, when He's drinking the cup.

See it? ?

A legalist does not understand that "where there is no law, there is no transgression".....as "Christ has ABOLISHED THE LAW" is in the NT, reader. Ephesians 2:15
A legalist, reads Romans 4:8, where they are told that God does not hold them accountable, for sin...(impute)(charge).... and they just foolishly ignore this and run back to Hebrews, a book-letter not written to the CHURCH, but to UNSAVED JEWS..."HEBREWS"... and then they get lost in it and stay lost in it.

Ask why LEGALIST,.. Ask WHY does God not hold you accountable, in Eternity, for your sin that you do tomorrow and next week.

A.) Because God already held Jesus accountable on the CROSS for them ALL.
Understand?.... as this is so so important for you to understand.

A Legalist will take a verse out of Matthew, given before Jesus was on the Cross, that is not NT doctrine for the Blood Bought Redeemed Church, and use this verse out of context to prove to themselves they can "lose it"=(Their Salvation)
A Legalist thinks they are in Christ, then fall out of Christ when they sin, and if they confess = do penance or whatever other deeds they can come up with, they get back INTO Christ.
However, Christ has contradicted you, as He said "I will never leave you or forsake you"...so, "Christ in you, the hope of Glory", is a fact, that you need to start believing.

A Legalist actually believes they are saved untill they sin, then confess, and are saved again, ... as if Salvation is a type of Yo-Yo, of sinning confessing, sinning confessing, sinning confessing.....up down, up down in Christ out of Christ, in Christ, out of Christ.,. kinda crazy, isn't it?
And all of this confusion and chaos is not only the misunderstanding the Blood Atonement, its also not giving FULL Credit DUE to the finished work of Jesus on the Cross.... and that is the REAL issue, for the Legalist - Heretic.
Don't be that person.


Oh my, Behold you REALLY need to read past the 4th and 5th chapters of Romans. Stop leading people astray. You don't understand Paul at all. The whole study on sin and the Law is eight chapters long!!! From Romans 1 through chapter 8!!! You are basing your whole doctrine on chapters out of context!!!

Here is what you are doing:

15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
 
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I have done such things...but I rejoice not in this; but rather that my name is written in heaven.

You've done exorcisms have u... Good for u. I never said i rejoiced in that but

There is one, narrow path to heaven; and few there be that find it.

Jesus said it; I believe it; that settles it

Weather Christ was talking about one narrow path for everyone or one narrow path for each of us is unclear i think
 

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There’s nothing better than a “ soft ball” question, is there ? Lol....John 5:24.....” He that hears My Word, and Believes on the One that sent me, ALREADY HAS EVERLASTING LIFE , and shall NOT come into Condemnation for their Sins .....they have ALREADY passed from Death into Life” ......Leaping Lizards! Does it GET any better than this? Can it “BE” any plainer? What an Amazing God we serve! Many reduce the Christian Walk to “ Don’t Do This and Do Do That.” What a way to live.Somebody once said, “ Your God is too Small. Too often that is the case....
Paul said “The Just shall LIVE by FAITH”....... Faith is Believing and Acting on the Promises Of God.Ill leave it to others to be obsessed with the Sins that Christ already died for......See the Bible as a List Of Rules if you so desire.Before one dies , I hope they can spend at least spend “ONE DAY” viewing the Bible as a Book full of Fantastic Promises to Believe and bask in , as opposed to being a “Rule Book” That has as its result, a person that is “SIN” conscience as opposed to being “ SON” conscience....
Faith is 90% COURAGE (check out David and Goliath) and 10% all the other Hogwash you have been taught all of your Church Lives ....Start Acting on the Promises Of God...Give your Heavenly Father The GOLD He desires— Your FAITH —- NOT your pitiful attempts at Perfection —- and watch how the Sin In Your life decreases and the Obedience in your life “ increases” without your having to work NEAR as hard as you think you do......maybe not at all.....that has been the Case with me....if God we’re to instill any more JOY than He already has in my life, I think I may explode!
“The Man who Finds Life will find it by TRUSTING GOD.” I sincerely believe that I have “ found Life”. Did not Jesus Promise Believers “ Abundant Life?”.....so what’s the hold-up? Is your Faith Walk no more than a constant grind of trying to carry the immense load upon your shoulders of keeping up a Performance and to consider a life of peace and joy is no more than a “ pipe dream.” Perhaps it is time to Change Tactics—— stop “ trying” to be Saved, and start “ Trusting” to be Saved.....God is full of Grace.....ask Him for a few days off in regard to your “ trying to be good” ......see if He will allow you the Freedom to “ Do what you Want” ........just for the heck Of it ......see if anything happens in your Life.....May God bless you in the understanding of these things......

Thanks, someone else pointed out that passage as well.
See what you suggest at the end, i tried that. What i found was the evil one taking advantage and saying things like "u can do what u like now and not worry about it cos God forgives u". If i am to be brutally honest about myself is that i have some incredulity about Jesus, a bit like Thomas.
I find it easy to believe in God but difficult to understand why and how Jesus fits into it...

There, ive said it. Ive been keeping that to myself cos im a bit fearful of peoples responses...
 

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Thanks, someone else pointed out that passage as well.
See what you suggest at the end, i tried that. What i found was the evil one taking advantage and saying things like "u can do what u like now and not worry about it cos God forgives u". If i am to be brutally honest about myself is that i have some incredulity about Jesus, a bit like Thomas.
I find it easy to believe in God but difficult to understand why and how Jesus fits into it...

There, ive said it. Ive been keeping that to myself cos im a bit fearful of peoples responses...


I know that it can be a bear...because the evil one does come in that way.

But the hope is that in the asking, God will respond to you by giving you a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 36:25-27)...making you into a new creature in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17 (kjv))...so that it is not the inclination of your heart to abuse the grace of the Lord (as the song says, "I don't want to abuse your grace; Lord I need it every day; it's the only thing that really even makes me want to change").

The righteous man falls seven times and gets back up again, every time (it says that somewhere in Proverbs).

You've done exorcisms have u... Good for u. I never said i rejoiced in that but

Weather Christ was talking about one narrow path for everyone or one narrow path for each of us is unclear i think

Yes, I have...but it wasn't good for me....those demons sought revenge after they were cast out and I suffered for it. It was good for the persons out of whom they were cast, however. Worth it to me for their salvation's sake.

Yes, the narrow path is one way into heaven...through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.

John 14:6 is a companion verse to Matthew 7:13-14.

Ye must be born again through simple faith in Jesus Christ.
 
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If He that is Perfect lives within you, then you can answer His challenge immediately:
Mat. 5[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Bto be "perfect" is a thing to do, but rather a state of being!
To be righteous even as He is righteous, is indeed something that we do (1 John 3:7).

I do not deny that it is also something that we are in Christ.

Although, there is the reality of indwelling sin (1 john 1:8); which would prevent us from being perfect in the sense of without sin. We can be perfect in terms of our walk (1 John 3:5-9); and this is called maturity.