Discerning : The Water Cults

[Marymog]

2 Billion isn't a small number, Mary worshiper.
But, with regards to that number, the people who know the truth, will always be in the minority.....

hold on, slow down cowboy....

2 billion what???? You have 2 billion people in your anti-water cult???? Is that what you are saying??

 

[Marymog]

I don't "throw out" water Baptism.
All i do is keep it completely less significant than the Cross or the Blood of Jesus or "Justification by Faith".
Any real Christian will do exactly that, always.

I dont make the heretics mistake of elevating WATER or Mary as equal to Jesus, The Cross, or The Blood of Jesus.
See, heretics make earthly things, equal to Spiritual Things.
They make cookies and water as significant as The Cross and The Blood of Jesus.

What do you mean "heretics make earthly things, equal to Spiritual Things." That makes no sense. Scripture says baptism is done with water and that is turning earthly things into spiritual things....Is that your accusation?

 

[Behold]

Oh....I get it now. You THINK that The Church elevates water and Mary as to being equal to Jesus.

Your's does.
You do.
Look at your Forum Alt's name.
You worship Mary., You have elevated her as "Queen of Heaven".
THats a water cults theology.
And you are their prime example. MARY mog

 

[Behold]

hold on, slow down cowboy....

2 billion what???? You have 2 billion people in your anti-water cult???? Is that what you are saying??

Im saying that there are about 9billion people.
Pagans, Catholics and similar, and Islamics, make up 80% of "religion".
The other, is ether born again, atheist, or agnostic.

 

[Behold]

What do you mean "heretics make earthly things, equal to Spiritual Things." That makes no sense. Scripture says baptism is done with water and that is turning earthly things into spiritual things....Is that your accusation?

Let me explain.

Things that are SEEN, are not Spiritual. The Spiritual is invisible.

So, everything that you can see, is "temporal", and everything that is Spiritual is eternal.

For example, communion cookies and communion fruit juice, is not spiritual, because you can see it.

The Word of God, that is alive, ... you can read it, but that is not the Light, the Light is the Revelation that is the Spiritual LIFE that IS the actual word.

Another example.
You can see your body, because its natural, earthly, and temporary.
But you can't see your Spirit, and its ETERNAL.

 

[Grunt Hemlock]

"God had Paul write most of the New Testament ."

Not true. Luke wrote more than Paul or any other gospel-writer.

 

[Grunt Hemlock]

This thread is Catholic-bashy

 

[Marymog]

Let me explain.

Things that are SEEN, are not Spiritual. The Spiritual is invisible.

So, everything that you can see, is "temporal", and everything that is Spiritual is eternal.

For example, communion cookies and communion fruit juice, is not spiritual, because you can see it.

The Word of God, that is alive, ... you can read it, but that is not the Light, the Light is the Revelation that is the Spiritual LIFE that IS the actual word.

Another example.
You can see your body, because its natural, earthly, and temporary.
But you can't see your Spirit, and its ETERNAL.

Who serves cookies and fruit juice at communion???

 

[Marymog]

Your's does.
You do.
Look at your Forum Alt's name.
You worship Mary., You have elevated her as "Queen of Heaven".
THats a water cults theology.
And you are their prime example. MARY mog

Oh...I get it....YOU think honoring, respecting and loving the Mother of God is elevating Mary over Jesus!!! Hmmmmm.....I wonder if Jesus and God honor, respect and love Mary???

 

[Behold]

Who serves cookies and fruit juice at communion???

The one that sticks a white cookie in your mouth and says...>"body of Christ".

Thats the one.
You should know.

 

[Behold]

Oh...I get it....YOU think honoring, respecting and loving the Mother of God

The main water cult teaches that Mary is co-mediatrix, and "queen of Heaven".
I can post the actual catholic doctrine if you like, but, only if you want everyone here to read what you'll then try to deny.
You decide.

 

[Marymog]

The main water cult teaches that Mary is co-mediatrix, and "queen of Heaven".
I can post the actual catholic doctrine if you like, but, only if you want everyone here to read what you'll then try to deny.
You decide.

I have decided.....I would love everyone to read what The Church teaches. Please do post it. During that time they are reading what The Church teaches they won't be led astray by reading what you teach and that is a good thing. Sooooo...PLEASE do post Catholic doctrine from a Catholic source (not your anti-Catholic sources that take things out of context, twist, lie etc).

Thank you.

 

[Marymog]

The one that sticks a white cookie in your mouth and says...>"body of Christ".

Thats the one.
You should know.

Nope I don't know. That is why I asked you who does that. Did you not notice the question mark after that sentence in post #448.

I have never been to a church, protestant or Catholic, that serves cookies at communion. Can you at least TRY and back up your statement with facts or is your only goal to be antagonistic and mean???

 

[amigo de christo]

Everyone has a sin nature.
Its the Adamic nature.
We are born with it.
But, the born again, are a "NEW CREATION", and that has resolved the Adamic.
The Adamic nature has been "crucified with Christ".
You , if you are born again, try to exist in your Adamic nature, and you teach that the born again are to do as you do.
That's heresy, that denies the reality of being "ONE with God and Christ".

How did God do it ALL ?

The question now is , DO we follow the SPIRIT or are we like i once was and could say JESUS saves , yet justified my sin .
Scary times call for serious questions . IF we never KNEW JESUS , HE GONNA TELL US I NEVER KNEW YOU .
IF we knew HIM and are of HIM , then we would walk and talk like HE DID . AND JESUS DIDNT make excuse for sin .
NOR did the apostels . IF we can claim to KNOW JESUS , yet always rebuke those who teach JESUS sayings
and the apostles sayings , WE DONT KNOW HIM . PEROID .
How come JESUS and paul , peter and john , jude and james would warn NOT TO SIN
and yet todays men , DOWN PLAY IT and simply say GOD is love . I MEAN either JESUS set us free from sin , OR HE DIDNT .
HOW come hyper grace men , Never sound like JESUS who said GO and sin no more
OR Like paul who said LET IT NOT ONCE BE NAMED . Instead all they say is GOD UNDERSTANDS .
BUT Who IS JESUS . DIDNT SEEM LIKE HE UNDERSTOOD and made excuse for sin . WHILE HE WAS FULL OF MERCY
HE Seemed to warn NOT TO DO IT . While the more paul loved the less HE was loved , HE SEEMED TO say CEASE IT .LET IT NOT once be named .
BUT TODAY ITS , Daddy GOD IS LOVE , HE UNDERSTANDS WE CANT STOP . BUT THIS DONT SOUND LIKE THE WARNINGS JESUS GAVE
NOR PAUL OR OTHERS GAVE . THINK . THINK . PONDER AND THINK .

 

[amigo de christo]

I have decided.....I would love everyone to read what The Church teaches. Please do post it. During that time they are reading what The Church teaches they won't be led astray by reading what you teach and that is a good thing. Sooooo...PLEASE do post Catholic doctrine from a Catholic source (not your anti-Catholic sources that take things out of context, twist, lie etc).

Thank you.

I LONG AGO decided , i wont hear what rome has to say . instead let us hear what JESUS and the apostels said in that bible .
Everyone has some kind of foundation . AS FOR ME , I CHOOSE the biblical JESUS and what the apostles wrote .
I choose to follow Christ , not men . Rome is bad news . has been since her birth under constantine .
In the end , YOU , ME and everyone reading this , or not reading this , IS GONNA STAND BEFORE CHRIST .
My advice , we better KNOW ITS THE REAL JESUS and HIS TEACHINGS and the teachings of the apostels , that we are following .
AND before i hear the programmed response of catholics about how they do . LET me remind us
there are many churches who can claim the bible is truth and that they heed the teachings . BUT DO THEY . THAT IS the question .
THROUGH all ages , rome and many others have exalted man . HAD men kissing rings and taking their word as GODS word .
BUT i was of the understanding that Leaders arethere as examples for the flock , not to LORD over them . Even paul
said he was to be tested . NONE of the true apostels ever had the common lambs KISSING RINGS
OR decking themselves out with fancy clothes . FACT IS JESUS warned against such men . ROME is what the phariseess and blind leaders
were IN JESUS day . THEY make broad their clothing , they make big hats and deck themselves up . TO BE SEEN OF MEN .
I WONT HEED that harlot . NO sir . NOT Ever . TO every lamb i say only this , WE DONT NEED the catholic church
and we sure dont need the pope francis . the man has to be the worst of most popes i have ever seen .
NOW . am i saved or do you beleive i am in danger of hell fire . Wont matter what you say . I choose JESUS
and that means the BIBLICAL ONE . OH yeah , fundies like me are so dangerous . AND YET I dont even beleive in self defense .
ROME IS LOST . LOST .

 

[amigo de christo]

"God had Paul write most of the New Testament ."

Not true. Luke wrote more than Paul or any other gospel-writer.

acts is long . so is the gospel of luke . But over all paul did write most of the letters . Romans , both corinthians
galations , ephesians , both to thessolonica , both to timothy , to titus , and perhaps even hebrews .
However . EVERY LETTER , EVERY gospel , no matter who wrote it , TRUTH dont contradict truth .
James agreed with paul and paul with james , john with james and james with john , and peter , and jude and all the gospels
and revelation . Now put those hands up and praise the LORD .

 

[justbyfaith]

Everyone has a sin nature.
Its the Adamic nature.
We are born with it.
But, the born again, are a "NEW CREATION", and that has resolved the Adamic.
The Adamic nature has been "crucified with Christ".
You , if you are born again, try to exist in your Adamic nature, and you teach that the born again are to do as you do.
That's heresy, that denies the reality of being "ONE with God and Christ".

How did God do it ALL ?

First of all, I don't teach that we are supposed to walk according to the sinful nature.

I teach that the element of sin, while dwelling within us, can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over our behaviour (Romans 6:14).

But you can't see your Spirit, and its ETERNAL.

By capitalizing the "s" in the words "your Spirit" I assume that you are attempting to imply that there is a "divine spark" in all of us?

Just one more addition to the false doctrines that I see you purporting at these forums.

 

[Marymog]

I LONG AGO decided , i wont hear what rome has to say . instead let us hear what JESUS and the apostels said in that bible .
Everyone has some kind of foundation . AS FOR ME , I CHOOSE the biblical JESUS and what the apostles wrote .
I choose to follow Christ , not men . Rome is bad news . has been since her birth under constantine .
In the end , YOU , ME and everyone reading this , or not reading this , IS GONNA STAND BEFORE CHRIST .
My advice , we better KNOW ITS THE REAL JESUS and HIS TEACHINGS and the teachings of the apostels , that we are following .
AND before i hear the programmed response of catholics about how they do . LET me remind us
there are many churches who can claim the bible is truth and that they heed the teachings . BUT DO THEY . THAT IS the question .
THROUGH all ages , rome and many others have exalted man . HAD men kissing rings and taking their word as GODS word .
BUT i was of the understanding that Leaders arethere as examples for the flock , not to LORD over them . Even paul
said he was to be tested . NONE of the true apostels ever had the common lambs KISSING RINGS
OR decking themselves out with fancy clothes . FACT IS JESUS warned against such men . ROME is what the phariseess and blind leaders
were IN JESUS day . THEY make broad their clothing , they make big hats and deck themselves up . TO BE SEEN OF MEN .
I WONT HEED that harlot . NO sir . NOT Ever . TO every lamb i say only this , WE DONT NEED the catholic church
and we sure dont need the pope francis . the man has to be the worst of most popes i have ever seen .
NOW . am i saved or do you beleive i am in danger of hell fire . Wont matter what you say . I choose JESUS
and that means the BIBLICAL ONE . OH yeah , fundies like me are so dangerous . AND YET I dont even beleive in self defense .
ROME IS LOST . LOST .

Good for you....

 

[justbyfaith]

Good for you....

If that is the case, it would also be good for you...

 

[amigo de christo]

If that is the case, it would also be good for you...

Oh yes indeed my friend . Every word of THE GLORIOUS LORD is good unto the soul of the hearer and doer of it .
Oh let the Lord be praised .