The Fruit of The Spirit.
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Hi @Nancy,
I have only now seen your OP. Let me work through it slowly and give it some thought.
* Looking at this verse (Luke 11:13) first. The marginal notes in my Bible inform me that the reference to 'Holy Spirit' (Gr. pnuema hagion) in this verse, refers to spiritual gifts, because in the Greek text there is no article ('the'). An earthly father can give us temporal gifts, but our Heavenly Father will give us spiritual gifts. The promise of the Holy Spirit had yet to be given at that time, hadn't it? Our Lord was speaking to His disciples during His earthy ministry.
* You and I have believed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and believing have life through His Name. We have both been assured by the Scriptures that we have been saved by God's grace, and that the New Nature has entered and indwells us, through Which the Holy Spirit operates within us. We believe this by faith in the faithfulness of God's word.
* We have both the Old and New nature dwelling in us, and that is what causes the conflict we often have to contend with. Rather than being something which we should mourn about though, it is something we should rejoice in: because it is the one proof of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that the enemy of our souls cannot replicate, or counterfeit.
* I can empathise with the way you feel, for like Paul I can say, with all sincerity, that in me (that is in my flesh) dwells no good thing. But praise God we are alive to the fact. The enemy of our souls does not waste time on those who are still dead in their sins, but those who are alive unto God. His aim is to get us to look inward, or around at others, instead of looking upward to where Christ is sat at His Father's right hand. That glorious position of great power: and that power is directed towards us; it is at our disposal at all times, for we are the apple of His eye, and He is keeping our hearts and minds by His word. We are His workmanship, and He cannot fail to bring us through unto victory. Death and sin have no dominion over us, for we are 'in Him'.
* Looking inward or at others only diminishes our faith, and leaves us weak and unstable. By looking to Him Who is the Author and Finisher of our faith, we are energised by life, His life, lifted up and strengthened in faith.
* We have died, and our life is now hid with Christ in God, we now live 'looking' for His appearing in glory, when we too will appear with Him there. What a hope we have!!
Praise God!
With love In Christ Jesus
Chris
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@Nancy
Dear God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
We thank you for Nancy, and lift her up before you now, knowing that you love her and that she is ever before your eyes. Please bring to her memory all that she has been blessed with in Christ Jesus Her Lord, and remind her of the Rock upon which she is standing. Which is Christ Jesus her risen and glorified Lord: Who died for her, and rose again that she may have her sins forgiven and receive the spirit of sonship whereby she can call You, 'Father'.
Lift up her hands in praise and adoration, strengthen her feeble knees, and help her to walk upright with her eyes stayed on You. May she be set free from introspection, and self loathing: for in Your eyes she is holy and without blame. She is complete in Christ Jesus, accepted in the Beloved, and made meet to partake of the inheritance of the saints in light. It is a finished work: there is nothing lacking, not in Your eyes; and when she awakes in resurrection glory, she will see her Saviour as He is, and bare His likeness, a likeness that cannot be achieved in this life. The image of Your precious Son, in accordance with Your will.
May Your will be done in Nancy, and each one of us, as we wait on You.
We pray this in the name of Christ Jesus our risen Lord
Our Saviour, and Head of His Body of which we are part.
Thank You in anticipation of it's fulfilment.
Our Advocate, Our Intercessor.
We Praise Your Holy Name!
Amen
Dear God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
We thank you for Nancy, and lift her up before you now, knowing that you love her and that she is ever before your eyes. Please bring to her memory all that she has been blessed with in Christ Jesus Her Lord, and remind her of the Rock upon which she is standing. Which is Christ Jesus her risen and glorified Lord: Who died for her, and rose again that she may have her sins forgiven and receive the spirit of sonship whereby she can call You, 'Father'.
Lift up her hands in praise and adoration, strengthen her feeble knees, and help her to walk upright with her eyes stayed on You. May she be set free from introspection, and self loathing: for in Your eyes she is holy and without blame. She is complete in Christ Jesus, accepted in the Beloved, and made meet to partake of the inheritance of the saints in light. It is a finished work: there is nothing lacking, not in Your eyes; and when she awakes in resurrection glory, she will see her Saviour as He is, and bare His likeness, a likeness that cannot be achieved in this life. The image of Your precious Son, in accordance with Your will.
May Your will be done in Nancy, and each one of us, as we wait on You.
We pray this in the name of Christ Jesus our risen Lord
Our Saviour, and Head of His Body of which we are part.
Thank You in anticipation of it's fulfilment.
Our Advocate, Our Intercessor.
We Praise Your Holy Name!
Amen
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@Nancy
'Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous:
nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness
unto them which are exercised thereby.
Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
And make straight paths for your feet,
lest that which is lame be turned out of the way;
but let it rather be healed.'
(Heb 12:11-13)
'Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous:
nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness
unto them which are exercised thereby.
Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
And make straight paths for your feet,
lest that which is lame be turned out of the way;
but let it rather be healed.'
(Heb 12:11-13)
Praying for you dear sister!Anger at myself!
Frustration as my body is broken and have to hire people to do things I've done myself for so long. Being alone the huge majority of time. Lot's of physical pain for over 25 years and it is all progressive. PDD and MDD...major and persistent depression, does not go away. No longer have many friends, especially Christian ones.
Very complex...rock and hard places. Yes, we are to be refined through suffering and trials. Satan is working overtime and the battles begin in the mind...my social skills have left the building...self pity? Pride? Perhaps. Friends dying left and right. Deep sadness that does not go away. Rarely does a smile reach my eyes and cannot remember the last belly laugh I had. Self loathing. Not "fitting in"...blah, blah, blah. Oh poor me,
Oh yeah, and the only thing that brings me joy in this world is leaving me each day. yes, a dog! The best thing that God blessed me with...outside of my mom that is. So tired.
Hope I don't sound preachy, but I am determined that:
"This is the day that the Lord has made; I will rejoice and be glad in it!" (even if it kills me!)
Sister, I feel for you.
"This is the day that the Lord has made; I will rejoice and be glad in it!" (even if it kills me!)
Sister, I feel for you.
Hard times are upon us and I expect they will get worse [for flesh and...?] before they get better. Let us all lean more heavily on our God who able to carry all of us and will heal and/ sooth our wounds. What a mighty God we serve!
@Truman
@amadeus
Hello there,
Yes, these are hard times, but like Peter who walked upon the water to His Lord, we must keep our eyes upon Him, and not look at the waters swirling around our feet, otherwise we will sink. We will begin to see our own frailty and loose sight of His strength, of His almighty arms which will hold us up if we fall.
These times are perceived to be getting harder, and more treacherous, and that appears to be so: but it is the spiritual treachery that we need to be more aware of, don't we? For the things of this world can only destroy our bodies, but it is spiritual treachery that can keep us from winning the prize and losing the race set before us. Our salvation is sure, but there is a crown to be won, to lay at our Saviours feet, and it can be lost.
'Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth,
and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith,
wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation,
and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit,
and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;'
(Eph 6:14-18)
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
@amadeus
Hello there,
Yes, these are hard times, but like Peter who walked upon the water to His Lord, we must keep our eyes upon Him, and not look at the waters swirling around our feet, otherwise we will sink. We will begin to see our own frailty and loose sight of His strength, of His almighty arms which will hold us up if we fall.
These times are perceived to be getting harder, and more treacherous, and that appears to be so: but it is the spiritual treachery that we need to be more aware of, don't we? For the things of this world can only destroy our bodies, but it is spiritual treachery that can keep us from winning the prize and losing the race set before us. Our salvation is sure, but there is a crown to be won, to lay at our Saviours feet, and it can be lost.
'Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth,
and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith,
wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation,
and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit,
and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;'
(Eph 6:14-18)
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Wrangler
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Great question.
I wish I had a great answer. For me, anger comes from trying to have MY will be done. When I submit to God's will my anger dissipates.
I'll pray for you. Maybe your hormones are out of kilter. My wife suffers from menopause very deeply and often.
Mantis
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I have dealt with similar issues for years. This last year has been pretty peaceful and I am handling things better. I think the key is just to not care about the circumstances you cannot change. If you can’t change it, don’t waste your time with it. It sounds stupid but it works for me.
We had a tangerine tree that only fruited every other year. It seemed so long waiting!
Much love!
Don't fake it, but draw closer to God. That's where you can pretend, even if you don't feel it. Pretend God is right there with you, fathering you, loving you, though you don't see Him.
He is sympathetic to your frustrations, and you your angers and rages, and He knows that you would set them aside in a heartbeat if you could. And He knows His Own reasons for not fully renewing your mind today.
I've just had to accept that this will take time, for whatever reason that God knows is best. Try to be patient with yourself!
Much love!
amigo de christo
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When we go back and read about the prophets and JESUS , they were men of sorrows , rejected , they suffered
and had great hardships .
Job and others even wished to die . Even jonah did .
And yet , we have all HOPE no matter what surrounds us . JESUS , the GLORIOUS RISEN KING , IS OUR HOPE .
March on truman . march onwards in the glorious LORD . Many are the afflictions of the lambs , BUT THE LORD
is with them through it all and shall deliver them . PRAISE THE GLORIOUS KING my friend and my friends .
amigo de christo
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You are loved my friend . You just told her not to fake it . She cannot PRETEND GOD is there . BUT MAY SHE KNOW HE IS .
Many a prophet cried unto the LORD , many will go through rough times in this life . JUST KNOW . KNOW . Breath it and KNOW IT .
GOD IS WITH THE LAMBS . WE TRULY DO HAVE A GOOD ENDING . FOCUS ON HIS DAY , And that has always
brought me peace no matter what i suffer . This ol life wont last forever , BUT THE ETERNAL LIFE WITH JESUS DOES .
KNOW that . FEAST ON IT . BANK ON IT . CLING TO IT . This world can keep its stuff , JUST GIVE ME JESUS .
NO suffering feels good , but GOD always works good to the lambs whose mind is stayed on HIM , for those who WAIT ON HIM
For those who LOVE HIM . Now let all that draws breath praise and thank and then thank and praise the glorious LORD .
amigo de christo
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Hows this for a reminder . Any time one feels that GOD does not love them , REMEMBER WHY HE SENT JESUS .
FOR GOD so loved the world that HE sent , HE gave His only begotten Son that all who do believe SHALL BE SAVED .
Every whip JESUS took , the crown of thorns , the spitting , the mocking , Was to the glory of the Father , who had already
determined long before HOW HE WOULD SAVE THE PEOPLES . FAITH IN JESUS SAVES , Faith in anything else kills .
FOR GOD so loved the world that HE sent , HE gave His only begotten Son that all who do believe SHALL BE SAVED .
Every whip JESUS took , the crown of thorns , the spitting , the mocking , Was to the glory of the Father , who had already
determined long before HOW HE WOULD SAVE THE PEOPLES . FAITH IN JESUS SAVES , Faith in anything else kills .
At the present, and among mortal men, Job is my hero. "the Lord gives, and the Lord takes away; blessed be the name of the Lord!"
amigo de christo
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Many prophets and peoples have endured much hardships in this life . But out of all of them
ONE stands far above them all . THE GLORIOUS LORD JESUS .
HE alone gave HIS OWN LIFE that all who do believe would have ETERNAL LIFE .
AND HE ALONE was the only one who had never done any evil , any wrong . The LORD IS GLORIOUS and may HIS NAME BE PRAISED
FOREVERMORE . Just ponder and bask in the beauty of the LORD . FOR he was made sin , WHO KNEW NO SIN
that we Who HAVE SINNED GREATLY , might be made the righteous of GOD IN HIM .
THAT my friend is HOPE and ITS JOY and it abounds through all sufferings and through all seasons , all times .
THERE simply is no hope in man . BUT THERE IS A OCEAN LOAD OF HOPE IN JESUS . Let the LORD be praised my friend .
Dance a jig round that house unto the LORD .
amigo de christo
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Let the LORD be praised , let every hand be raised unto the glorious LORD . The lambs will take a beating in this life .
BUT REMEMBER THE BEATING JESUS TOOK for the lambs . YEAH . HOPE IN THE GLORIOUS LORD .
Love every word HE ever spoke . Embrace all truth . HOPE IN GOD and praise the glorious LORD .
BUT REMEMBER THE BEATING JESUS TOOK for the lambs . YEAH . HOPE IN THE GLORIOUS LORD .
Love every word HE ever spoke . Embrace all truth . HOPE IN GOD and praise the glorious LORD .
I love the Lord; after Him giving me (most undeserving as I was, I called Him a liar), a vision of His love for me, and responding by loving Him back (which had to do with how He made us), seeing my own sinfulness was, and is, frustrating, and can be so discouraging. And yet, He doesn't quit us! He is so-o-o good to us...much better than we deserve!
I understand your frustration, Nancy. Kudos for being real and transparent about it. James 5:16
I understand your frustration, Nancy. Kudos for being real and transparent about it.
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