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Therefore YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN, it’s not an option, unless you prefer damnation, that is.
theefaith believes he was born again when he was 'baptised' at 16 weeks old. Such a shame he knows so much but doesn't know that he needs to be born again..
 
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Everything Jesus taught applies to all people everywhere now.

He originally came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, but because they rejected their own messiah, except for a remnant, salvation by faith in Jesus and entering the kingdom was opened up to the Greeks, aka the gentiles.

Now everything Jesus taught applies to everyone, including the fact that you must be born again to enter His kingdom - and if you’re not in His kingdom, you’re damned.

Proof of this is that Paul taught the kingdom everywhere he went, and he is the apostle to the gentiles, not to the Jews, as Peter was:

Rom 11:13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry

Obviously if the kingdom and entering the kingdom was only for the Jews, then an apostle to the gentiles would not be preaching the kingdom to those gentiles.

There is is only ONE gospel of the kingdom of Christ and of God, offered first to the Jew, then to the gentile:

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.


All that Jesus taught applies to us, as proven by Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, preaching the kingdom:


Act 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Act 20:25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the KINGDOM of God, shall see my face no more.


Act 28:30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,

Act 28:31 Preaching the KINGDOM of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.


Paul preached the same exact thing to both the Jews and the Greeks/gentiles- there was no difference:


Act 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you,but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,


Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Therefore YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN, it’s not an option, unless you prefer damnation, that is.

how does one become “born again”?
 

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i was born into it when I was 35.
It's wonderful, you should try it instead of doing your best to deny it. This relationship with Jesus is so personal and special and you could have that too if you'd only believe what people are telling you.

there are no personal relationships with Christ
No personal salvation
No personal covenants
no personal faith

we have all these in common in the communion of saints eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
 

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we still have free will to choose to repent or sin

As well as to sin in the first place thus requiring repentance. Keep in mind Faith, that practicing sin is not true repentance. We do have free will, as we are made in God's image, and shockingly I have had many people over the years that think that was an error from God. I certainly don't think God erred in creation at all, but a lot of misery has came about because of free will.

I guess too many don't understand that free will was to be exercised within the limits of Gods laws.
 
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Everything Jesus taught applies to all people everywhere now.

He originally came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, but because they rejected their own messiah, except for a remnant, salvation by faith in Jesus and entering the kingdom was opened up to the Greeks, aka the gentiles.

Now everything Jesus taught applies to everyone, including the fact that you must be born again to enter His kingdom - and if you’re not in His kingdom, you’re damned.

Proof of this is that Paul taught the kingdom everywhere he went, and he is the apostle to the gentiles, not to the Jews, as Peter was:

Rom 11:13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry

Obviously if the kingdom and entering the kingdom was only for the Jews, then an apostle to the gentiles would not be preaching the kingdom to those gentiles.

There is is only ONE gospel of the kingdom of Christ and of God, offered first to the Jew, then to the gentile:

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.


All that Jesus taught applies to us, as proven by Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, preaching the kingdom:


Act 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Act 20:25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the KINGDOM of God, shall see my face no more.


Act 28:30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,

Act 28:31 Preaching the KINGDOM of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.


Paul preached the same exact thing to both the Jews and the Greeks/gentiles- there was no difference:


Act 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you,but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,


Act 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Therefore YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN, it’s not an option, unless you prefer damnation, that is.

Are you aware of who the two groups of sheep are Curt? Jn 10:16
 

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there are no personal relationships with Christ
No personal salvation
No personal covenants
no personal faith

we have all these in common in the communion of saints eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
Excuse me @theefaith , just 'cos you don't have that don't just assume that nobody else does.

how does one become “born again”?
The following video called 'how to know Jesus personally' - which is when we become born again - is written in text form in the front of my bible - NLT. To read it in full you could get a copy for yourself. It is too big a thing to miss out on. If it isn't possible why is it in these bibles?


And here is good site to give you further answers. Please don't just dismiss what has been said to you. I wish I knew your name so I could feel a connection as I chat to you.

What Does It Mean To Be A Christian? | Living Authentic Christianity (jasminpatterson.com)
 

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As well as to sin in the first place thus requiring repentance. Keep in mind Faith, that practicing sin is not true repentance. We do have free will, as we are made in God's image, and shockingly I have had many people over the years that think that was an error from God. I certainly don't think God erred in creation at all, but a lot of misery has came about because of free will.

I guess too many don't understand that free will was to be exercised within the limits of Gods laws.

what does it mean to be made in the image and likeness of God?
 

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Excuse me @theefaith , just 'cos you don't have that don't just assume that nobody else does.

you can pretend but not according to scripture only the tradition of men


The following video called 'how to know Jesus personally' - which is when we become born again - is written in text form in the front of my bible - NLT. To read it in full you could get a copy for yourself. It is too big a thing to miss out on. If it isn't possible why is it in these bibles?


And here is good site to give you further answers. Please don't just dismiss what has been said to you. I wish I knew your name so I could feel a connection as I chat to you.

What Does It Mean To Be A Christian? | Living Authentic Christianity (jasminpatterson.com)


Truth must be revealed by Christ to his church. Jude 1:3 the holy church teaches all nations. Matt 28:19 without error. Jn 16:13

The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!

The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14

born again is baptismal regeneration

Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”

John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism / water)

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

Born again means Baptismal regeneration!
 

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God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who I has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!
 

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Sacraments instituted by Christ for the salvation of souls!

It’s not a do it yourself religion!
It’s not a bible study!

It’s a covenant!

Not by “faith alone”
“Faith alone” not biblical
You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!

Faith and the sacraments in the church founded by the authority Christ on Peter and the apostles is biblical!

Faith and baptism is the biblical initiation into the new covenant and member is Christ and His holy church!
Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

You cannot enter a covenant by “faith alone” must be a ritual outward sign!
Faith and baptism! Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38

Merits of christ’s passion, death, and precious blood are applied in the sacraments! Jn 1:16

Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Lk 1: 72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 & Jn 10:16 one fold

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Christ and His church are one: acts 9 why persecute me?

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


Sacraments are the fruit of the sacrifice!
The holy sacrifice of Christ, His passion, blood, and death producing unlimited fruits of divine grace, actual and sanctifying grace! Jn 1:29 Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10


“This promise” (sacred oath of God or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

Life of supernatural grace merited by Christ in His passion and death!

An oath to sacramental life in the new covenant in union with the mediator and communion with God, and the saints!

Promise of the Father acts 2:23-39
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!

Jn 1:5-5 abide in Him, apart from Him you can do nothing.

Jn 10:10 life, (grace more abundantly)
Jn 1: 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 1:16-17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
(Thru faith and the sacraments!)
 

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how does one become “born again”?
John chapter 3, Jesus conversation with nicodemus, Jesus goes on to say it’s by faith in Him as the son of god.

Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?”

Joh 3:10 Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?

Joh 3:11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony.

Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

Joh 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,

Joh 3:15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

For God So Loved the World

Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Joh 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

Joh 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Joh 3:19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

Joh 3:20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.

Joh 3:21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

And there’s no infant baptism in that equation of having eternal life by faith in Jesus.
 

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Are you aware of who the two groups of sheep are Curt? Jn 10:16
Are you aware that all are one in Christ Jesus,? In Jesus Christ there is neither male or female, bond or slave, Jew or Greek (meaning gentile), all are one in Christ Jesus.

Jesus came only for the lost sheep the house of Israel, and gentiles- meaning all non Jews- have now been included in the plan of salvation, because most of the house of Israel rejected their own Messiah, so salvation was also given to the Gentiles to make Israel jealous, still in Romans 11.

Today Gentiles who believe are grafted onto the olive tree of Israel, as wild branches grafted in with the the natural branches, per
Romans 11.

There are no Separate flocks of sheep today: all believers now, both Jew and gentile, Are all one in Christ Jesus, and in the kingdom.
 

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John chapter 3, Jesus conversation with nicodemus, Jesus goes on to say it’s by faith in Him as the son of god.

Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?”

Joh 3:10 Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?

Joh 3:11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony.

Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

Joh 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,

Joh 3:15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

For God So Loved the World

Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Joh 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

Joh 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Joh 3:19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

Joh 3:20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.

Joh 3:21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

And there’s no infant baptism in that equation of having eternal life by faith in Jesus.

do we have to believe Mk 16:16?

ez 36:25-27 this promise is to you’re children acts 2:38-39 the promise of baptismal regeneration
 

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do we have to believe Mk 16:16?

ez 36:25-27 this promise is to you’re children acts 2:38-39 the promise of baptismal regeneration

In mark 16, Jesus says that whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved - but it is clearly the belief that saves and not the water baptism - otherwise Jesus would have also said that he who believes but is not baptized, is damned - instead the only criteria he gave for being damned, is unbelief, not lack of water baptism, in your mark 16 proof text.

Thus mark 16 actually refutes you.
 

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Truth must be revealed by Christ to his church
Yes the Holy Spirit has revealed the truth to me and many others who have been chatting to you @theefaith but you don't recognise it.

It's a shame really. You need Jesus to be your personal Saviour. You need the Holy Spirit to lead you into the full gospel truth and you need to put aside the teachings you hold on to so adamantly and start to wonder if we might be right.

If we are wrong you have nothing to lose BUT if we are right you have everything to lose. Please my friend come humbly before your creator and ask him to speak to you; ask him to show you if I am right or not and be open minded as you won't hear anything if you have already shut your mind.

I am an old lady and I'm not intent on arguing with you but this is so very important. It's like if you were hungry and somebody offered to share a delicious feast with you and you walked away. Please theefaith don't walk away from this. What I have said has been out of love. Shalom, Pat.
 

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In mark 16, Jesus says that whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved - but it is clearly the belief that saves and not the water baptism - otherwise Jesus would have also said that he who believes but is not baptized, is damned - instead the only criteria he gave for being damned, is unbelief, not lack of water baptism, in your mark 16 proof text.

Thus mark 16 actually refutes you.

really????????

Mark 16:16 The requirements for those who are being saved cannot be undone by the requirements for those not being saved! He who believes and is baptized is still required for salvation? Heaven and earth may pass away but my words shall not pass away!

It is Reasonable that if they reject faith why bother mentioning the second requirement?

So don’t negate the word of God or Jesus by trying to delete one verse with another.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Nowhere does scripture say salvation is by “faith alone”! Rom 13:11
Or that we died with Christ by “faith alone”! Or that we put in Christ by “faith alone”! Or that we are in the church by “faith alone”!
 

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where does scripture says we have died with Christ by “faith alone”?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

where does scripture say we are members of Christ and his church by “faith alone”?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

where does scripture says we put on Christ by “faith alone”?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Where does scripture say our sins are washed away by “faith alone”?

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

where does scripture say we are saved or justified by “faith alone”?

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

The only reference in scripture to “faith alone” is James 2:24 NOT BY “FAITH ALONE”?
 

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@theefaith it sounds to me like you prefer blindly to accept the teachings of the Catholic church and hold dearly to it's doctrines; in fact that the Catholic church is more important to you than the truth we have been trying to show you.

Jesus is my Saviour and I belong to him. He came into my life 44 years ago and immediately healed me of depression. And since then he has healed me of a breast lump, Bell's palsy as well as other minor things.

As well as that he helps me find lost things or remember things I've forgotten. Or he shows me what to do in a particular circumstance. I talk to him all the time and he often answers. He teaches me through nature and in dreams. This is how I have a personal relationship with him.

He is not a one-size-fits-all Saviour but treats us as individuals, knowing us and loving us individually. He is friend and brother he is Lord and King he love me and I love him. Now that couldn't happen if it wasn't a personal relationship.

I could be wrong but I guess you are a priest or something similar as none of the Catholics I know in real life are so against the thought of a personal Saviour. In fact none of them ever discuss their faith even though they know my husband and I are born again baptised Christians.

Now please will you tell me some of the things he has done in your life. It is good to share with each other.