Job 19:26 And after my body has decayed, yet in my body I will see God! That does sound like we get new bodies. Jesus got one also and we shall be like Him. He was not just a spirit.
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No, you are saying that, not GOD, you should be more cautious in intending to replace GOD, No, you are wrong completely, in the END of 1.000 years, actually in this CURRENT MILLENNIUM, the seventh and last millennium, that will be another EVENT, as it is described in Revelation 20:v.7 to 15, and not as you are preaching. So, you are wrong.
Are you believing the Planet Earth will be dissolved as you above wrote? You are wrong completely, you know not the Word of GOD. I will never believe in your human spirit trying to replace GOD. I see that your thinking is from human perspective, not from GOD's perspective. Have you never read Isaiah 40:v.21-22?
What will really be DISSOLVED? GOD said: "Behold, the Day cometh (that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium-2Peter 3:v.7), that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the Day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch-Malachi 4:v.1.Did you understand?
Did you understand? The world of Devil with ALL THINGS which were created, and made, and constructed, and developped by men according / by their spirit will be annihilated, will be destroyed from now on, yeah, they will be destroyed day after day. Many things were already destroyed in these last two years, but it is only the beginning of SORROWS, understand? The worst is in the way and will happen in near future.
JESUS said: For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. For now the fulfillment of this prophecy is in stand by because we are in the beginning of sorrows. Actually, the extension of this prophecy goes far, very far, inimaginable, because the chastisements have its beginning, yeah, its beginning, but it WILL NEVER END, UNDERSTAND? Yeah, it WILL NEVER STOP, BUT NEVER, the punishment is ETERNAL, it is for ever and ever, understand?
Once the Word of GOD that was given to JESUS says it is nation against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, then understand: There will not be any kind of "Federation" or Confederation, and also there will not be United groups or Organizations which still there are today or in the current time, as such :
UN - United Nations Organization
NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization
OAS - Organization of American States
WTO - World Trade Organization
UNESCO - United Nations Organization for Education, Science and Culture
OECD - Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
BIRD - International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
IMF - International Monetary Fund
WHO - World Health Organization
ILO - International Labor Organization,
G-7
G-20
and others;
Be sure that ALL, but ALL will be destroyed, will be DISSOLVED (except the terrestrial globe, of course), yeah, DISSOLVED, like a GIGANTIC IMPLOSION, by analogy, something like the inimaginable fall of the two TOWERS of the WTC-Word Trade Center, so the confusion or mess is done, in other words, the hell's fire starts to burn, the eternal fire, yeah, forever and ever. GOD is a devouring/consuming FIRE, understand?
For better understand of you and ALL, I remember 2 Peter 3:v.7 to 18:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now (yeah, now, even now, and from now on) by the same Word are kept in store-the Word is GOD-, reserved unto FIRE against this Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.
God will show the difference between one who serves Him, and one who does not.
Get ready
Jesus' body was raised from the dead. It was still Him, wounds and all. We shall be like Him that is Scripture not tradition. I see nothing in 2 Cor 15 that supports you.
Yes we do go to be with Him when our body dies here. That does not mean that we will not get new bodies one day.
I think you know that 1,000 years is a millennium, am I right? In which millennium did Jesus come to announce the Gospel of the Kingdom of God? I suppose you know this.
Now see. The Christian calendar is indicating/pointing the year 2022. What millennium are you living now in, even in this current time, I mean from Adam until today? I think you know that 1,000 years is a millennium, am I right? So, What millennium are you living now in?
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What does that mean? Are you saying we are in the 1000 years now?
Heaven and earth shall pass away, Jesus said. Is He wrong?
You do realize that fire from heaven that destroys the wicked at the end of the 1000 years is probably what destroys (at least) the surface of the earth, so that we have a new earth?
What I understand is that you continue to deliberatly conflate the 1000 years with the fiery judgment of the second coming. Not my problem, sorry.
I would tend to agree, however nations rose against each other before.
No idea what you are talking about. You seem to be saying eternal damnation is here now for the earth.
Yes, there are ten kings that rulle with the beast in the end actually.
You seem to be saying that the word dissolved refers to something other than when the earth is made new after the 1000 years. That is fantasy of course.
All fores before that final one are localized not planet wide. That includes the second coming and vengeance of Jesus when He returns to rule.
The only 1000 years that matters in relation to His rule with us on earth after He returns is the 1000 years that follows our return. Period.
Now see. The Christian calendar is indicating/pointing the year 2022. What millennium are you living now in, even in this current time, I mean from Adam until today? I think you know that 1,000 years is a millennium, am I right? So, What millennium are you living now in?
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Who cares? It was not the millennium that we ruled on earth with Him after He returns.
You now add to the list of things you conflate and confuse. You confuse 1000 year periods even when the one in question is marked by Him ruling on earth with us. Some people should learn to stop talking and teaching and start learning.
EL wrongo - Just as the body Jesus was resurrected in was His mortal body, complete with the scars from the resurrection, and transformed into an immortal body, God also raises up our mortal bodies and transforms them into immortal bodies.
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Le' Wrong. The dead in Christ receive new bodies, they do not return to their old bodies.
2Co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2Co 5:2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
The new body is in heaven! Here Paul uses an analogy of a building, house and tabernacle to represent a physical body. One of these is an "earthly house" meaning the mortal flesh body we are born into and then a heavenly house which is in heaven that represents the new immortal body. This speaks of when a saved humans body dies (dissolved) that there is another body in heaven waiting for them and the time of Resurrection. There is nothing in the passage about the person's spirit returning to their dissolved/dead body and it being brought back to life. Paul speaks of a different body that already exists in heaven.
Paul knew he wasn't returning to his old body.
He speaks of the mortal body being dissolved and a new body that is waiting in heaven. Clearly that is not bringing the dissolved body back to life and changing it which would eliminate the need for the new body in heaven that he mentions.
2Co 5:3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
2Co 5:4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
Paul writes that he desires to be clothed with the house from Heaven and says it is eternal in Heaven. That's the resurrected body and it is from heaven not from the Earth nor from an Earthly grave.
Why obfuscate issues? The only 1000 yrs in question in this thread is the 1000 years Jesus and us rule earth as the bible says. Any other millennium you pulled out of your---hat.
Why not get to some point that is clear and relative to the topic?
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death
Not sure why you made up that foolishness. Guess that means you actually cannot get to any sort of cohesive point.
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Talking about the things of GOD from a human perspective is good for nothing. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, understand? The Word is GOD, yeah, the Word is GOD.
What does the Word of GOD say?
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed. For this I say unto you by the Word of the Lord - the Word is GOD- , that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which died. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, (from the 3rd heaven- heaven is not sky, of course), with the voice of the archangel, and with the Trump of God, for the Trumpet shall sound and we(our carnal body) shall be changed/trnasformed, for this CORRUPTIBLE (our body) MUST put on INCORRUPTION, and this MORTAL (our body) MUST put on IMMORTALITY.
So when this CORRUPTIBLE(our body) shall have put on incorruption, and this MORTAL(our body) shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
The earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of GOD. Because the creature ITSELF also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of GOD, waiting for the adoption,to wit, the REDEMPTION of our vile body.
Our conversation is in this current heaven (heaven is not sky, but a celestial place in Christ-Eph.1:v.3), from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who shall change OUR VILE BODY, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself, understand?
See, if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead DWELL in you, He that raised up Christ from the dead -the Word- shall also quicken your MORTAL BODIES by His Spirit that dwells in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh, for if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die. But if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of GOD, they are the sons of GOD.
O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to GOD, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
Talking about the things of GOD from a human perspective is good for nothing. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, understand? The Word is GOD, yeah, the Word is GOD.
What does the Word of GOD say?
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed. For this I say unto you by the Word of the Lord - the Word is GOD- , that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which died. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, (from the 3rd heaven- heaven is not sky, of course), with the voice of the archangel, and with the Trump of God, for the Trumpet shall sound and we(our carnal body) shall be changed/trnasformed, for this CORRUPTIBLE (our body) MUST put on INCORRUPTION, and this MORTAL (our body) MUST put on IMMORTALITY.
So when this CORRUPTIBLE(our body) shall have put on incorruption, and this MORTAL(our body) shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
The earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of GOD. Because the creature ITSELF also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of GOD, waiting for the adoption,to wit, the REDEMPTION of our vile body.
Our conversation is in this current heaven (heaven is not sky, but a celestial place in Christ-Eph.1:v.3), from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who shall change OUR VILE BODY, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself, understand?
See, if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead DWELL in you, He that raised up Christ from the dead -the Word- shall also quicken your MORTAL BODIES by His Spirit that dwells in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh, for if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die. But if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of GOD, they are the sons of GOD.
O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to GOD, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
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Not sure what you think that all means. However, since you have many conflated ideas, you would need to make some clear point. Refresh our memory here, do you believe what the bible says about Jesus ruling here with us for 1000 years after we return to earth?
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