The Soul.

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Soul began appearing in the Bible in the book of Genesis by the Hebrew
word nephesh (neh'-fesh) which isn't unique to human life. Its first
appearance is at Gen 1:20-21 in reference to aqua creatures and winged
creatures; again at Gen 1:24 as terra creatures; viz: cattle, creepy crawlies,
and wild beasts; and again in Gen 2:7 as the human creature; and yet again
at Gen 9:10 to classify every living thing aboard Noah's ark.

God has a soul too. (Lev 26:11, Lev 26:30, Judg 10:16, Isa 42:1, Jer 32:41,
and Zech 11:8)
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Anima said:

Jesus has shared the following information about the soul:

What distinguishes animal-man from animal-brute?


Where do souls come from? The soul of each man?


Who is God?


Why did God give man a soul?


When does one receive their soul?


What is a soul?


Where is our soul?


What does a soul in Grace possess?


What is it that removes Grace?


— The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. I-V

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The scriptures themselves tell us how God created the first man a living soul or living person at Genesis 2:7 which says, "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life(spirit); and man became a living soul."
So this scripture makes it very clear that the first human being became a living soul or living person by a combination of God taking dust from the ground and forming it into a flesh and blood human body then blowing the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human human body became a living soul or living person. So anyone trying to say that the breath of life(spirit) separately, on its own, without the flesh and blood human body is a living soul or living person is contradicting Genesis 2:7.

Anima said:

Jesus has shared the following information about the soul:

What distinguishes animal-man from animal-brute?


Where do souls come from? The soul of each man?


Who is God?


Why did God give man a soul?


When does one receive their soul?


What is a soul?


Where is our soul?


What does a soul in Grace possess?


What is it that removes Grace?


— The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. I-V

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So many people show by their reasoning of the scriptures that they are clueless when it comes to the word soul in the Bible. People are always reasoning by the way they see the scriptures that God gave man a soul, but this isn't what the scriptures tell us. The scriptures tell us that just as animals are souls so we humans are souls. The only thing different with us humans is that God created us in his image. The word soul has nothing to do with man being created in God's image because if it did, then the scriptures would say that animals were created in God's image, but the animals are not created in God's image just because animals are souls just as we humans are souls. The word soul has nothing to do with man being created in God's image. The scripture at Genesis 2:7 tells us that God took dust from the ground and formed it into a flesh and blood human body then he blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. It is also true concerning animals, that God took dust from the ground and formed them into flesh and blood animal bodies and blew the breath of life(spirit) into those flesh and blood animal bodies and those flesh and blood animal bodies became living souls or living animals. The same breath of life(spirit) that's in humans is the same breath of life(spirit) in animals.

Ronald David Bruno said,
Animals have souls as we do, but they do not have a spirit.

We don't have souls, we are souls, and just as we are souls, so are animals souls. The same breath of life(spirit) that is in man, is the same breath of life(spirit) in animals. So animals have spirit too. Too many human beings through the centuries have been indoctrinated in that doctrine that man has an immortal soul that when they speak of such things as soul and spirit they are not speaking the truth that's in the scriptures.
When it comes to death, human beings die just as animals die. Genesis 2:7 which is a scripture that describes to us how God created the first human being, can't be ignored when talking about such words as soul or spirit. This scripture is telling us that God took dust from the ground, formed it into a flesh and blood human body, then blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person.
Since the animals are souls as human beings are souls and have the same breath of life(spirit) as human beings have, then scripture teaches us that when God was creating the animals, God did that by, taking dust from the ground, forming it into various flesh and blood animal bodies, then blowing the breath of life(spirit) into these various flesh and blood animal bodies, and these various flesh and blood animal bodies, became living souls or living animals.

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Anima said:

Jesus has shared the following information about the soul:

What distinguishes animal-man from animal-brute?


Where do souls come from? The soul of each man?


Who is God?


Why did God give man a soul?


When does one receive their soul?


What is a soul?


Where is our soul?


What does a soul in Grace possess?


What is it that removes Grace?


— The Poem of the Man-God: Vol. I-V

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I don't agree with a poem that has to do wth the philosophy of men. This that was all stated in this poem contradicts the scriptures. The scriptures are very clear that each individual human being is a soul not that each and every individual human being has a soul.

Soul could mean a "life force" that's in everything from blades of grass to ourselves..

"God.. in whose hand is the soul of every living thing" (Job 12:10)

Dropship said:

Soul could mean a "life force" that's in everything from blades of grass to ourselves..

"God.. in whose hand is the soul of every living thing" (Job 12:10)

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This isn't consistent with the scriptures. The scriptures show that animals and humans are souls, not that they have souls, and that they have the same spirit (life force) in them. Spirit and soul are not the same thing. The scriptures say nothing about blades of grass having spirit(life force) in them.There's a difference between saying that animals and humans are souls and saying that animals and humans have souls.

Spirit, or life-force, can be compared to the electric current that flows through a machine or an appliance. The invisible electricity may perform various functions, depending on the type of equipment it powers. For example, an electric stove can be made to generate heat, a computer to process information, and a television set to produce images and sound. Yet, the electric current never takes on the features of the equipment it activates. It remains simply a force. Similarly, the life-force does not take on any of the characteristics of the creatures( animals or humans) it animates. It has no personality and no thinking ability. Humans and animals “have but one spirit.”(life force) (Ecclesiastes 3:19)

So since the life-force, or spirit found in man which is also in animal creation, is if an impersonal nature it is evident that David’s statement at Psalm 31:5, which was quoted by Jesus at the time of his death (Lu 23:46), “Into your hand I entrust my spirit,” meant that God was being called upon to guard, or care for, that one’s life-force.
A person’s entrusting his spirit means, that he places his hope in God for a future restoration of such life-force to himself through a resurrection.

At Job 12:10 this scripture must be kept in context with the scriptures surrounding it. At Job 12:7-10 these scriptures are giving us the knowledge that instruction can be received from the domestic animals and from the earth. (Pr 6:6) In these, wise persons will see evidence of the handiwork of God and of the fact that all life is dependent upon God. Humans who fail to act in harmony with this abundant evidence are, as the apostle Paul wrote, “inexcusable.”(Romans 1:20) The scriptures at Job 12:7-10 are not talking about a spirit or life force in the blades of grass. As I said spirit or life force is said to be only in animals or humans.

Ronald David Bruno said:

I'm sorry, some of this sounds comforting and nice, but I see flaws in these concepts.
First off, we are not animal-man. Animals have souls as we do, but they do not have a spirit. Our spiritual nature is dead when we are born, the spiritual part of us with ability to commune with God. Sin was imputed to mankind through Adam and Eve and so we are born with this defect.
When we are born-again, we become a new creature, alive in Christ, a spiritual person and we become the Temple of the Holy Spirit.
We came from God and are made in His image. The soul is the mind, emotions, will, and whatever special talents and abilities He gives us. God has a soul, but God is spirit.
There is confusion and mystery about the soul/spirit of man and I do not pretend to know all there is, but I think I know more than this Ms. Valtorta who wrote this. She was a creative and imaginative romantic writer and her writings should be viewed as such, NOT EXTENSIONS OF SCRIPTURE!

Ms. Valtorta, the writer of "The Poem of the Man-God", was a Catholic and leaned on her faith, knowledge of Catholism ... and supposed visions, which are somewhat spurios. "Visions of Mary"? Why would God give anyone visions of Mary?
Quote [Valtorta's handwritten episodes (which had no chronological order) were typed into separate pages by her priest and reassembled as a book.[2] The first copy of the book was presented to Pope Pius XII, and the three Servite priests who attended the 1948 papal audience stated that he gave his verbal approval to "publish this work as is; he who reads will understand."[2] However, the Holy Office forbade publication and, when in spite of that prohibition, publication followed, placed the book on the Index of Forbidden Books.[3]
In 1992, at the request of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi asked the publisher to ensure that "in any future reprint of the volumes, each should, right from its first page, clearly state that the 'visions' and 'dictations' referred to in it cannot be held to be of supernatural origin but must be considered simply as literary forms used by the author to narrate in her own way the life of Jesus".[4] The publisher maintained that this was an implicit declaration that the work was free of doctrinal or moral error.[5]] Wikepedia

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The only problem with this is that an unsaved has a dead unresponsive spirit. Soul in greek is Pseuche. While all sentient creatures have a soul, man has a unique soul. It can leanr and grow and add knowledge while animals cannot.

BARNEY BRIGHT said:

The scriptures say nothing about blades of grass having spirit (life force) in them.

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Grass is alive so it must have a spirit or life-force or in it..
"God.. in whose hand is the soul of every living thing" (Job 12:10)

PS- I once put this ordinary humble grass seed on a piece of tissue and watered it, and after a few days it sprouted into a blade, and look at the fine filaments it sent out like roots to soak up the water, bless its little cotton socks!
Here's the punch line- Scientists can analyse it, dissect it, scan it and log its chemical constituents etc, but they haven't a clue how to actually MAKE one..

Ronald Nolette said:

The only problem with this is that an unsaved has a dead unresponsive spirit.

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I did say that:
"Our spiritual nature is dead when we are born ..."

Ronald Nolette said:

While all sentient creatures have a soul, man has a unique soul. It can leanr and grow and add knowledge while animals cannot.

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Animals learn from their parents and experience. A newborn lion cub knows nothing, though he has instincts, they need to be understood, developed like talents that we are born with. But our souls are much more vastly complex obviously: our minds, will, emotions, talents.

Dropship said:

Grass is alive so it must have a spirit or life-force or in it..
"God.. in whose hand is the soul of every living thing" (Job 12:10)

PS- I once put this ordinary humble grass seed on a piece of tissue and watered it, and after a few days it sprouted into a blade, and look at the fine filaments it sent out like roots to soak up the water, bless its little cotton socks!
Here's the punch line- Scientists can analyse it, dissect it, scan it and log its chemical constituents etc, but they haven't a clue how to actually MAKE one..

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You will find no where in any scripture that says grass has a spirit or lifeforce. I'm not going to go by what someone thinks is true but what Gods word says is true. The scriptures show us the way God created the first human being at Genesis 2:7 which says, "And YHWH God went on to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living person. To make Genesis 2:7 very clear, in my own words, Genesis 2:7 is saying, YHWH God took dust from the Ground and formed it into a flesh and blood human body then God blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. Genesis 7:21,22 shows us that the animals have the same breath of life(spirit) that man does. So the way God created animals is that he took dust from the ground formed it into various flesh and blood animal bodies, then he blew the breath of life(spirit) into these various flesh and blood animal bodies and they became living souls or living animals. The scriptures at Ecclesiastes 3:19 tell us that humans and animals have same spirit.
However you will find nowhere in the scriptures that say that grass has spirit as humans and animals have spirit, or that grass has life force as humans and animals do.

Ronald Nolette said:

The only problem with this is that an unsaved has a dead unresponsive spirit. Soul in greek is Pseuche. While all sentient creatures have a soul, man has a unique soul. It can leanr and grow and add knowledge while animals cannot.

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Humans are living souls and animals are living souls, and humans and animals have the same spirit. The only way that man is unique is that God created man in his image. This has nothing to do with man being a living soul because animals are living souls like humans are living souls.

Ronald David Bruno said:

I did say that:
"Our spiritual nature is dead when we are born ..."


Animals learn from their parents and experience. A newborn lion cub knows nothing, though he has instincts, they need to be understood, developed like talents that we are born with. But our souls are much more vastly complex obviously: our minds, will, emotions, talents.

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This is untrue. We picked up a cat as a nearly newborn kitten from a rescue shelter. It had no role models or parents or anything, but now as an adult, it stalks, waits, hunts and captures prey all cats do. Animal instincts are hardwired into the animal. granted they can be more fine tuned in imitating their parents, but animalsd do not understand only act and react.

BARNEY BRIGHT said:

Humans are living souls and animals are living souls, and humans and animals have the same spirit. The only way that man is unique is that God created man in his image. This has nothing to do with man being a living soul because animals are living souls like humans are living souls.

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Wrong! God breathed into man the spirit of life. Man is made in gods image animals are not. Man can advance his knowlege and build and improve old knowledge animals cannot. Man can think and rationalize and understand, animals cannot.

Also and most important:

1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Man is a soul, spirit and body. Pseuche, pneuma and soma. If the soul was not a separate things as your4 watchtower indoctrinators have lied to you on, then Paul is downright stupid here. He is not so the problem lies with that organization.

Ronald Nolette said:

Wrong! God breathed into man the spirit of life. Man is made in gods image animals are not. Man can advance his knowlege and build and improve old knowledge animals cannot. Man can think and rationalize and understand, animals cannot.

Also and most important:

1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Man is a soul, spirit and body. Pseuche, pneuma and soma. If the soul was not a separate things as your4 watchtower indoctrinators have lied to you on, then Paul is downright stupid here. He is not so the problem lies with that organization.

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Genesis 2:7 tells us how God created the first human being. Genesis 2:7 says, YHWH God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. This scripture means that God took dust from the ground formed it into a flesh and blood human body then blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. The scriptures also show us at Genesis 7:21, 22; Ecclesiastes 3:19 that the same breath of life(spirit) that's in humans is also in animals. So when God was creating the animals God took dust from the ground formed it into many different flesh and blood animal bodies then blew the breath of life (spirit) into the many different flesh and blood animal bodies and those many different flesh and blood animal bodies became living souls or living animals. So when you say man is a soul, spirit and body that is also true for animals. So words like, Pseuche, Pneuma and soma apply to animals as well.

At 1Thessalonians 5:23 Paul was talking to the entire Thessalonian congregation not to just one individual. He also wasn't trying to define how an individual human was created. When using the word spirit when talking to the Thessalonian congregation the word spirit here means the dominant attitude of the entire congregation.(1Corinthians 5:5; Galatians 6:18) When he used the word soul when speaking to the entire Thessalonian congratulation the word soul here meant life, or existence of the congregation and when Paul used the word body when speaking to the entire Thessalonian congratulation the word body here meant the composite group of anointed christians who make up the congregation(1Corinthians 12:12,13)

BARNEY BRIGHT said:

Genesis 2:7 tells us how God created the first human being. Genesis 2:7 says, YHWH God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. This scripture means that God took dust from the ground formed it into a flesh and blood human body then blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. The scriptures also show us at Genesis 7:21, 22; Ecclesiastes 3:19 that the same breath of life(spirit) that's in humans is also in animals. So when God was creating the animals God took dust from the ground formed it into many different flesh and blood animal bodies then blew the breath of life (spirit) into the many different flesh and blood animal bodies and those many different flesh and blood animal bodies became living souls or living animals. So when you say man is a soul, spirit and body that is also true for animals. So words like, Pseuche, Pneuma and soma apply to animals as well.

At 1Thessalonians 5:23 Paul was talking to the entire Thessalonian congregation not to just one individual. He also wasn't trying to define how an individual human was created. When using the word spirit when talking to the Thessalonian congregation the word spirit here means the dominant attitude of the entire congregation.(1Corinthians 5:5; Galatians 6:18) When he used the word soul when speaking to the entire Thessalonian congratulation the word soul here meant life, or existence of the congregation and when Paul used the word body when speaking to the entire Thessalonian congratulation the word body here meant the composite group of anointed christians who make up the congregation(1Corinthians 12:12,13)

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Wow that false argument I thought died the painful death it deserves.

YOu show your ignorance of Gods word. god did not "form" the animals from the dust- He spoke them into existence! Reread Genesis 1 without the Watchtower blinders and learn what God says for a change!

Your last sentnece in paragraph one is opinion that has no validity in gods Word.

And then your spiritualizing of Pauls blessing is pathetic, but it doesn't surprise me. He was simply praying that God would bless all the church in body, soul and spirit.

1Th 5:23

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And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Redefining the word of god to promote false doctrine is a very grave offense Barney!

Ronald Nolette said:

Man can advance his knowlege and build and improve old knowledge animals cannot.

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wow you've never met a racoon huh

BARNEY BRIGHT said:

Anyone saying that a person continues living at death is contradicting Genesis 2:7.

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well either you are wrong or Jesus is.

BARNEY BRIGHT said:

The usual way that people try to uphold the teaching of the immortalness and indestructibleness of the human soul is by quoting only the first half of Matthew 10:28. Why? Because in the last half of the verse Jesus goes on to say: “But rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” That is to say, fear Almighty God who can destroy the human soul as well as the human body, in Gehenna. This is the Greek word mistranslated “hell,” it not being the same Greek word as haides, and tartaros, which words the King James Version also translates as “hell.”
So Jesus agrees that the living soul ceases to exist when, both body and soul are destroyed in Gehenna.

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no, Jesus says God is able to destroy the soul.
that doesn't mean God necessarily destroys all souls, and Jesus specifically points out that physical death ((what men can do to you)) does not accomplish the destruction of the soul. only God can do this -- but does He? certainly not upon mere physical death; see Luke 20:38 e.g.

Ronald Nolette said:

Wow that false argument I thought died the painful death it deserves.

YOu show your ignorance of Gods word. god did not "form" the animals from the dust- He spoke them into existence! Reread Genesis 1 without the Watchtower blinders and learn what God says for a change!

Your last sentnece in paragraph one is opinion that has no validity in gods Word.

And then your spiritualizing of Pauls blessing is pathetic, but it doesn't surprise me. He was simply praying that God would bless all the church in body, soul and spirit.

1Th 5:23

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And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Redefining the word of god to promote false doctrine is a very grave offense Barney!

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I'm not going to disagree with Genesis 2:7 which teaches us that God took dust from the ground

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well either you are wrong or Jesus is.

He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.
(Luke 20:38)​

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Yes YHWH God is the God of the living. This is because when it comes to the faithful, God has promised them they will exist as living persons again by a resurrection of the dead. God will remember them and resurrect them back into existence as living persons. They being resurrected back as living persons is a certainty, it can't fail. Therefore all those who were faithful to God is in God's memory he remembers them, so to him they are still living. Luke 20:38