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The other thread got too crowded I moved it here. so the first topic out of here out of many is what we are saved by.almost every church beliefs we are saved by faith alone. this is largely because of Romans 3:28 which states For we consider that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the law. romans 3:28but catholicism have a different answer, an answer most catholics don't even know so here is the catholic interpretation.It is important to know what Paul is talking about in Romans 3:28When St. Paul says " we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law. He is talking about how Old Testament law, like circumcision, could not bring salvation. In the new testament faith brings salvation, providing that it is made alive by charity. Saving grace is active. as galations 5:6 puts it 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. In 1 Cor 13:2 Paul tells us faith without love is nothing 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.Love means love of God, and in Mathew 19: 16- 17 Jesus says that if we love him, we will "keep his commandments"16Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?" 17"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."Thus it is clear from scripture that faith alone is not enough for salvation. We must also have love and keep Gods commandments.Saint James condemns the idea that we are saved by faith apart from Good works. For example James 2:24,2624You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.The catholic church teaches that we are saved by gods grace alone. Grace enables us to have the saving faith that works in love, as we see in Ephesians 2: 8-10.8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.all good works must be done in the grace of God to have supernatural value.So that is the catholic interpretation of salvation personally when I first heard it I thought it was crazy, but as I read into it, it made since. For Hitler was a Christian, I mean he believed in Jesus, But on his free time he killed millions of jews. so was he really a Christian. No!! he had the faith but he didn't have love or compassion or a respect of life or anything Jesus lived and died for. He was an antichrist, he believed that Jesus was God, but he didn't care, he lived for the devil instead.your brother in christRyan Fitz
 

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I posted my bible verses in te new international version. Since many of you think the KJV is the only bible we should use I will be glad to post those verses again int hat translation
 

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Ok topic number 2 which I completley disagree with:eek:................... uh I'll teach it any way. and then tell The authority and tradition