Should Christians not participate in Halloween?

Waiting on him said:

He clearly states His thoughts are higher than mine.

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Yes, He also states that there is nothing hidden from Him, is He not the same Yesterday, Today, and forever. do you really think that what was an Abomination, Yesterday, is no longer an Abomination Today?

Truth said:

Yes, He also states that there is nothing hidden from Him, is He not the same Yesterday, Today, and forever. do you really think that what was an Abomination, Yesterday, is no longer an Abomination Today?

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Sure.

CovenantPromise said:

John 3:5 Jesus answered,, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
Sounds essential to any reasonably minded reader.

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Water in this verse is a metaphor for the Water of the Word of God -- the Gospel. Which is also the incorruptible seed of the New Birth (1 Peter 1:23-25).

It is through the preaching of the Gospel and the power of the Holy Spirit accompanying the Gospel that sinners are saved and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. and it is the Holy Spirit who regenerates sinners and makes them children of God (Titus 3:4-7).

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.(John 1:11-13)

On one hand Luther believed in justification by grace through faith. On the other hand he taught that baptism was necessary for salvation. So he tried to have it both ways, and that simply leads to spiritual confusion and spiritual schizophrenia.
"Moreover, that it is most solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we cannot be saved..." [emphasis added]
SOURCE: The Large Catechism (XIII) - Martin Luther

Butterfly said:

I will like what I want to like, you don't hold the ' I know everything card '
And as for judging triump as a troll, what a joke !!
Rita

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CovenantPromise said:

Isn't this a discussion concerning Halloween?[/QUOTE
I was responding to a criticism that was made about me liking someone else's post.
Threads digress all the time, you would need to read back to find the context.

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CovenantPromise said:

Me too! "My people perish for lack of knowledge" I was not aware of the Word . I was not taught it as a child. Was my sin intentional, of course not but God is Perfect and it was a sin none the lest. I can say for sure now though , I am not a two stepper and my yes is yes and my no , no anything other comes from the evil one . There seems to be many ways to serve satan.

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"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" is a good, searching quote from Hosea 4.6...

Waiting on him said:

He clearly states His thoughts are higher than mine.

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I do love Isaiah 55...

trick or treat smell my feet give me something good to eat lol halloween is over no satanic worship sacrifices..other than abortion which happens every day ..might i add it is not the woman right

Enoch111 said:

Water in this verse is a metaphor for the Water of the Word of God -- the Gospel. Which is also the incorruptible seed of the New Birth (1 Peter 1:23-25).

It is through the preaching of the Gospel and the power of the Holy Spirit accompanying the Gospel that sinners are saved and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. and it is the Holy Spirit who regenerates sinners and makes them children of God (Titus 3:4-7).

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.(John 1:11-13)

On one hand Luther believed in justification by grace through faith. On the other hand he taught that baptism was necessary for salvation. So he tried to have it both ways, and that simply leads to spiritual confusion and spiritual schizophrenia.
"Moreover, that it is most solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we cannot be saved..." [emphasis added]
SOURCE: The Large Catechism (XIII) - Martin Luther

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False interpretation. There are verses which are clearly speaking of Christ as the Waters of Life . His every word is. But water baptism is a tenet of the faith which speaks to salvation in its application . For all of which Christ instituted is salvation. You mince and divide scripture against scripture as though a house divided can stand. The only house divided is the doctrine of men. The holy scriptures will never be divide. Men's false interps. are the division. As for Catechism this or that, I lean on the beloved solely. He said it is important and necessary and he Himself who needed no baptism did so in order to hammer the point home. For it was for Him and John to fulfill ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS. If you are not for that, your problem! And Christ is no hypocrite.
Acts 10:46-47
The Gentiles Receive the Holy Spirit
…46For they heard them speaking in tongues and exalting God. Then Peter said, 47“Can anyone withhold the water to baptize these people? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have!” 48So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to stay for a few days.…

Why did this happen? I bet through false interp. , you think it means water baptism is not necessary? NO! It means the Jews were not ready to receive of the gentiles into the house of David. God intervened ! The Jews needed a push, some encouragement.It was to let them know it is the right thing to accept those of gentiles as family. Hence, why after Peter said the waters of baptism need to be administered. Not one jot, not one stroke of the pen, not one letter of the Law is to be lost BUT FULFILLED! You can argue with yourself and with whomever you want, the scriptures are CLEAR!

Matthew 5:18
The Fulfillment of the Law
…18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.…

So point to the catechism and whatever you want to dis, but do not dis truth!
We are told to uphold all Christ's teaches as GREAT even if you think something is LEAST, who in the world are you! All IS GREAT! And I teach in support of all Christ speaks as GREAT! Because He is the man! He is GREAT!

Matthew 28:
The Great Commission
…18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”…

And in teaching all that He has commanded , is teaching all tenets of His doctrine as GREAT! Not one thing is unnecessary nor is water baptism only a metaphor. Do you even know what a metaphor is:

A figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.

Water Baptism is not literally applicable?:
a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, especially something abstract.

There is nothing abstract about water baptism in the Holy Spirit.
abstract:
existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.

I am soooo sick of denominations trying to be replacements for Christ. Every single one of them has some sort of garbage replacement theology. There is not one Virgin denomination. But Christ is taking care of that through the Noble Lady- the Shulammite. Thank you God for the the Elect lady, sister to the first to know. She will teach in all righteousness!

Willie T said:

Anyone might be a little unobservant not to see that my answer emphatically said Christians should be actively taking that day back for God.

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Where? That is now the case in direct wordage . And how did any christian loose that day to begin with? and what do you do NOW to take back that day? Do you directly call the celebration of Halloween evil? No day is evil what you put forth into any day is what determines what is evil. That simply means people are. So take back what day? One must take back ones soul from satan is all!

CovenantPromise said:

I am soooo sick of denominations trying to be replacements for Christ. Every single one of them has some sort of garbage replacement theology. There is not one Virgin denomination. But Christ is taking care of that through the Noble Lady- the Shulammite. Thank you God for the the Elect lady, sister to the first to know. She will teach in all righteousness!

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i agree trying to replace Christ over the years man has read a group of scripture and interpreted it as thus saith the Lord thus formed a doctrine in fACT we can see the exact same thing in this forum . the age old debate who is right who is wrong and if not careful it creates division. as per water baptism being essential to salvation. i will stand up and deny that teaching till i have no more breath .. when a person places strong emphasis on water baptism to be saved. that takes away the blood grace mercy justified Righteousness faith . paul wrote it best work out your (take the y off ) it reads our --
Philippians 2:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
everyone of us are guilty of pointing fingers . i try note try : to find common ground with all denominations and yes some times it is hard. when i hear we are the true n.t church . we have the right Bibles the right hymnals the right theology . then there can be no common ground found . just like purgatory there is no such thing

Waiting on him said:

Sure.

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Waiting on him said: ↑
He clearly states His thoughts are higher than mine.

Yes his thought's are Higher, Yet he has communicated to us through His Prophets and His Word!
Love, Anger, Wrath, all form's of emotion! Yet you do not think we are capable of Disappointing Him, even to Anger?
Well Triumph 1300 is right! this Ritual is past until next year! Maybe in that time people will come to an understanding that Gods Word is forever settled in Heaven [Psalms 119:89] and that the Whole Word of God is the Foundation of Our Faith, not just what we think!! Which is foolishness to God.

Willie T said:

My wife is part of the group that welcomes Visitors to our church. I will try to let you know how many new people attend in the next few weeks because a bunch of "renegade" Christians dared to invest their time and money in giving a neighborhood an alternative to the typical Halloween.

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That would be interesting to see.

Triumph1300 said:

Really?

Is that the kind of evangelism you support???

Killing and murdering people who don't follow your religion.

I have news for you... violence, murdering and torture does not convert people to your catholic church.

Jesus Christ preached a different gospel, not the one you are preaching on this forum.

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Hi Triumph,

LOL....You do know that the Crusades wasn't meant to be "evangelism"? The Crusades were started because the Muslims were killing Christians and forcing them to convert to Islam at knife point?

Why don't you know your own Christian (and world) history?

Here is a BRIEF summary: The violent aggression of Islam had conquered ancient Christian territory in the Holy Land and North Africa and established a large foothold in Europe within a century of Muhammad’s death in the early seventh century. Additional Christian territory was stolen by Islamic conquerors in the late eleventh century. A group of 12,000 German Christian pilgrims were massacred by the Muslims on Good Friday. The Crusades were launched to recover these conquered Christian territories and return them to the patrimony of Christ.


Your welcome.....Historical Mary

Nancy said:

I've also heard "History is written by the winners"


Mary,
I didn't answer the first time because this is just a constant back and forth, not worth my time on here.

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Hi Nancy,

Well, it's not really a "back and forth" because you made a statement that I asked you to back up and you didn't sooooo really it is just you making statements and not backing it up with facts.

For it to be a back and forth you would make a statement (which you did). I would ask you to provide facts for your statement (which I did). You would then respond with facts to back up your statement (which you didn't do). That didn't happen.

But I see you really don't want to have a conversation so I digress.

Keeping it real....Mary

marks said:

Hi Mary,

I was looking over one of your links, do you know what they meant by this?

1539 AD: The “Great Bible” was printed; the first English language Bible authorized for public use (80 Books).

Timeline of Bible Translation and History of the English Bible

Thanks in advance!

Much love!

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Hi Marks,

I do not "know" what they meant by that statement (authorized for public use). I can only presume that it was the first bible to be printed using "public" money (taxes). Do you know why?

I do know that The Great Bible was also called The Chained Bible because it was often chained to something in the church to prevent its removal and it was only allowed to be kept in churches and not be taken home for personal study sooooo it seems to be a contradictory statement.

What is the Great Bible? | GotQuestions.org

Great Bible - Wikipedia

Mary

Marymog said:

Here is a BRIEF summary: The violent aggression of Islam had conquered ancient Christian territory in the Holy Land and North Africa and established a large foothold in Europe within a century of Muhammad’s death in the early seventh century. Additional Christian territory was stolen by Islamic conquerors in the late eleventh century. A group of 12,000 German Christian pilgrims were massacred by the Muslims on Good Friday. The Crusades were launched to recover these conquered Christian territories and return them to the patrimony of Christ.

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Oh, sure, and you are all behind this violence and figured it was the right thing to do.
Yes, according to you this is what Christ preached.

Christ does not support the violence you are supporting.

I am sure He would also not treat people like you (as a "good" Catholic) are doing on this Forum.

Soverign Grace said:

October is here again and all the children are going to dress up and come for candy. How do others handle Halloween? Is it an evil holiday or harmless fun for children?

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People tend to focus on the spiritual problem with this holiday, but fail to note that getting kids jacked up on sugar is priming them for a life of addiction and health issues. In the last ten years, I've had a total of less than half a dozen kids come to my door dressed up looking for a hand out on Halloween. I always give them money because it's extortion, plain and simple, and I can't have sugar in my home. Not because I could be tempted to eat it, but because it literally give me a headache just to be anywhere near the stuff. I have to give the bakery a wide berth just to avoid a hangover. The amount of sugar people consume now is over a hundred pounds a year on average. Fifty years ago it was less than 3 pounds a year.

To me, Halloween is a metaphor for Identity politics today. These identities that are being thrown around complete with their own pronouns, etc. are as legitimate as the little ballerinas and cowboys who come knocking on my door asking me to humor them with some pointless transitory reward.