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  1. FatalMoves

    FatalMoves Active Member

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    Have you ever asked yourself what you're been saved from?
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Sure. Separation from God...
     
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    You say that but look at all Job lost. It was a journey into seeing and not just hearing of. Kind of lines up with He who loses his life will find it. Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.

    mine eye seeth thee is singular. Consider
    Hebrews 11:26-27 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. [27] By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

    It wasn’t until not long ago that I noticed the “endured, as seeing him who is invisible.” I just assumed Moses saw as I see carnally. But “as seeing him who is invisible.”

    Acts 23:11
    [11] And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said, Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome.

    Paul maybe would have echoed Job’s words of “I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee” The Lord stood by him(He who is invisible as visible).

    1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them , because they are spiritually discerned.
     
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    lol....I suppose to some it may seem dishonest.....but it is the most profound book ever to teach others about love, humility, wisdom, and charity. It doesn't seek to destroy us but rather to save us and to show us how to have a life full of joy, peace and hope.
     
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    Now whos cherry picking huh?
     
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    Someone in your life taught you to push people away. It’s sad that you don’t believe you are worth being loved
     
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    This is what I read in Romans 1:20 .....for since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities _ his eternal power and divine nature_ have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made so that men are without excuse.
     
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    I'm only looking for love from one person.
     
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    Good news he’s comprised of many!
     
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    I don't care to debate belief vs faith, nor find a varying degree of unimportance.
    So I'll pass on your suggestion.

    Glory to God,
    Taken
     
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    I'm talking about a very special woman, my lady in red. OXOX
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Ok
     
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    Ok, we Differ on opinion.

    Glory to God,
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    "Who can know Him"? ♥ Good points.
    "Be it done unto you according to your faith"
    It does come down to relationship and communion with The Living God, on a personal level IMO.
     
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    The Point was repeatedly asking God for forgiveness...
    Not man forgiving a man.

    I believe Sin is Against God, and only God can forgive what is Against God.

    I believe forgiveness among men is for trespasses, not sin.
    And forgiveness among men trespassing against men is taught as ongoing, over and over again.

    I believe SIN AGAINST MAN BY MAN, was applicable to a man UNDER the Hebrew/Jewish Law.
    Being something that Hebrews and Jews TAUGHT to Hebrews and Jews.

    I find it ODD that Christians in one breath, proclaim they are NOT Under the Law,
    And in the next breath,
    proclaim men ARE sinning Against them, and
    Should be asking them or God for forgivness of what they claim IS a sin.

    Men do not forgive men of sin....less you be Under the Hebrew/Jewish Law.

    Simply...
    God forgives SIN, which is AGAINST God.
    That which IS Against God, is DISBELIEF.
    That Forgiveness is between God and man.

    Men trespass Against men, and is a Forgiveness between men of Trespasses.
    That Forgiveness is between men and men.

    "IF" a man settles his trespasses Against men, WITH FOGIVENESS, so also will God forgive that mans Trespasses.
    That Forgiveness is a GIVEN, without a man Asking God, as God has already revealed it is a given, when the "IF" IS accomplished.

    Further:
    Not a secret, men are naturally born AGAINST God. Men neither Know, Love or have commited themselves TO God.

    A man "IN" Christ Jesus, under a New Covenant, are Once and Forever Forgiven for their Disbelief, and Kept in Belief and Faithfulness to God, By and Through the Indwelling Power of God.
    Thus thereafter....WHAT SIN can a man Commit?
    And WHAT SIN does a man repeatedly need to ASK God for for forgiveness?
    According to Scripture...NONE.

    1 John 3
    [9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    A man "IN" Christ Jesus...
    IS A man; "Born of God"...by and through the Declaration of God who has provided the WAY for a man, (before his physical death) to live "IN" the Holy Risen Body of Christ Jesus, and that man BE Accounted...Cleansed, Sanctified, Justified having been perfected by the Power of God....and thus, why do men ASK for what they have already been given?


    Matt.6
    1. [14] For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
    2. [15] But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    Matt.18
    1. [35] So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

    Glory to God,
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    Many things affect the way I think about people, just because I refer to myself as a follower of Christ doesn't mean that I'm not still human. It's when I put my eyes/attention on "people" that I fall. There are as many hypocrites in the church as there are in the grocery store or any place you go. There are liars, fornicators, on and on and on so, I would say that if you are honestly looking for the "Truth", keep your eyes on Jesus, never on what others do or say or act. I also will say that that is an answer to so many who ask about another's faith...they blame their dis-belief on other people; broken, sinful, flawed people. I've made that mistake and used it as an excuse myself one time. Way wrong way to honestly be seeking Truth.

    In His Name,
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    How absurd.
     
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    I don'tneed ideas when I have true and accurate information.

    Have you consider how silly it is to call for mercy from a being you do not know or recognise!
     
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    It was pun intended, sheeesh!
     
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    Yes but this is deadly serious. An eturnity apart from the source of all goodness is not a laughing matter.
     
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