I've already shown you how the verses you posted DO NOT have to do with sanctification. But, yes, I'm willing to go through them again...BECAUSE their meaning WILL NOT change...It is YOU who are changing the meanings to reconcile with your theology.
I'm going to write only to you. I don't have a lot of time here,,,so I'm going to concentrate on replying to you.
BUT,,,I cannot go back and forth to see what I said to which you are replying.
PLEASE put my statement in your answer so that I can know what you're talking about.
Like for instance, WHAT is only my opinion?
I post verses for almost everything I say and the only reason I don't is because everyone here should know some verses and it takes a lot of time to post them.
So WHAT iS my opinion? That sanctification is a cooperative work between us and God?
You yourself agree that sanctification means being set aside.
FOR WHAT?
We are set aside to do the good deeds that God would want us to do.
Did YOU sit back on your couch and do NOTHING after you were saved?
Or did you try to be a little more friendly and nice to the cashier in the supermarket?
If a neighbor asked a favor of you...did you ask God to come down from heaven and give them a hand,,,or did YOU go over to your neighbor and help them out?
I mean, we need VERSES for this?
There are MANY.
Let's just take this one:
1 Peter 3:8-13
To sum up, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in spirit; not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you might inherit a blessing. For, "THE ONE WHO DESIRES LIFE, TO LOVE AND SEE GOOD DAYS, MUST KEEP HIS TONGUE FROM EVIL AND HIS LIPS FROM SPEAKING DECEIT.
The above is stating that THE ONE WHO DESIRES LIFE, MUST keep his tongue from evil and also be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted and humble in spirit.
Do YOU desire LIFE? Then you must do all of the above, and more.
THIS is cooperating with God,,,when you DO what God wants you to do.
Now show me a verse that states we DO NOT have to do any good deeds.
Yes, I do believe the vessel must cooperate with the potter.
See
Jeremiah 18:5-10
5Then the word of the LORD came to me saying,
6“Can I not, O house of Israel, deal with you as this potter does?” declares the LORD. “Behold, like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel.
7“At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to pull down, or to destroy it;
8if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it.
9“Or at another moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to build up or to plant it;
10if it does evil in My sight by not obeying My voice, then I will think better of the good with which I had promised to bless it.
As you can plainly see from verses 8 to10...IF the vessel (the nation) does evil God will act accordingly...the same for verse 10. IF the nation does evil in God's eyes by NOT OBEYING HIS VOICE...He will think better of the good HE HAD PROMISED.
The vessel does indeed cause God to act in a certain way...
I was jumping to John to support my point. Earlier on you scolded me for NOT posting supporting scripture. I don't make up my own rules...they're all in the bible.
The bible is one complete thought A. You cannot separate what God says by picking special little verses that YOU may like...it's ONE THOUGHT..not many little thoughts that God inspired.
Philippians 1:6 states that God will be able to finish what He started IF we ALLOW HIM TO. God does not force anything upon us...we have free will to follow Him or not to follow Him. To ALLOW Him to work in us, or NOT allow Him to work in us.
And how do I know this:
Because Jesus said so in John 15:5-6
John 15:5-6
5“I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.
6“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
If JESUS says we can do nothing without HIM...
then PAUL must agree with Him.
When Paul says that God will perfect the work began in us in Philippians 1:6....
we must remember what Jesus taught us...that we can do NOTHING without HIM....so yes, God will perfect the work He began in us AS LONG AS
we are IN CHRIST. IF we are IN CHRIST,,,He will complete the work in us.
No conflict.
YOU cause conflicts in scripture by pitting verse against verse.
If we can do that. then we might as well throw out the N.T. because it would not be trustworthy.
God DOES work in our lives. I just said that.
But do YOU not REPLY to what God wants you to do?
You mean, God comes down from heaven and does everything FOR YOU?
No. What these verses mean is that God give us the STRENGTH to do what we have to do. We are set apart for HIS good deeds. But WE are the one DOING the deed...God helps us.
Jesus said it would be good for HIM to go away so He could send the Holy Spirit, who is our HELPER. Helper FOR WHAT exactly? To DO the will of the Father.
John 16:7
And you're quoting some verses up there about willing to do the work but you haven't provided the verse. Please do so.
Again.. Please use syntax...I have no idea what you're speaking of.
I support all my statements with scripture.
And why would you have to LOOK IT UP.
I know you're familiar with scripture...
Could you NOT reply to what I said??
You don't seem to understand:
WE need God's help.
HE does NOT need our help.
He DOES need our permission. I know you don't believe in free will, but unfortunately the bible does teach free will, beginning in Genesis and ending in Revelation.
Genesis 2:16-17
Revelation 3:20
And as to the lump of clay...
YES, I'm happy to be a child of God
NOT a lump of clay.
John 1:12
12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
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