I find it odd that you would say God doesn't care about our ideas. You are the one coming up with all the ideas.
They are not my ideas, you just think they are because of "your ideas". Lets think about David, he was shown by Nathan how he was a Shepard with a huge flock who stole the small flock of another Shepard by Nathan the Prophet (who told David this even though many Prophets had been killed by Jewish leaders/kings).
Now, all of those other kings heard Prophets and rejected those ideas as from them not God. David did just the opposite, he knew that Nathans words were from God. Now, those kings who killed the prophets, they actually thought those men were liars, but they weren't. So, God does not care for "OUR IDEAS" means just that, He only cares for His own ideas, He loves a relationship with us, but if we are not hearing God clearly, then of course He takes no joy in that. Satan loves whispering untruths and half truths to even Christians, especially those not called unto Prophecy who try to dabble in it anyway, with "authority" they were never given. It is what it is. The difference is I have been calked unto Prophecy for 37 years. I actually understand it in full, the fact that you seeing still can't grasp it just shows me it is not your calling. When I show things to actual prophecy guys they get it right away. Our problem is hands are trying to be feet. Be what God called you to be.
I'm just readying what the Word says and accepting what it says.
As did the Pharisees, who were very learned men, but they still could not see Jesus, they had tunnel vision, or as Jesus put it Men's Traditions got in their way. You can read the word all you want brother, if you misinterpret the meanings then you will never see what the Prophecy means, and not being called unto prophesy means you should heed those who are. When you get to heaven, a light switch will go off, you will know everything in an instance, your first words should be Rev Man was 99.9 percent right on everything he told me.
accept the fact that the seals line perfectly with what Jesus says in Matthew 24. The four horsemen of the Apocalypse the first four seals are the beginning of sorrows in Matthew 24. How can you not see that? The fifth seal lines up perfectly with the Great tribulation in Matthew 24. Then the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal is the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24. It boggles my mind how you can't see this.
And you would of course be WRONG, the END is the 70th week, Jesus says the END is later on, then in verse 14 Jesus tells when THE END (70th week) comes. After the Gospel has been preached unto all the world THEN and only then does the 70th week come. How can anyone miss the Birth Pangs analogy? Birth Pangs BIRTH the baby, thus the Birth Pangs BIRTH the 70th week end !!
The beginning of Sorrows is in the Church Age, we see all of that start THEN the Disciples are killed !! Psstt, all that came from some man long ago, and even though it does not match you guys have all went with it for ages now. Satan loves slipping in little untruths, he loves confusing the church, of course. He never stops working. The Seals are Jesus telling us what the Anti-Christs coming 42 month rule will bring in Seals 1-5 and what God's Wrath will bring in Seal #6, when the Trumpet Judgments finally start AFTER the 7th Seal is loosed. People not being able to understand that SEALS bind the Scroll leaves me aghast tbh, so you can understand a closet with 7 locks can not be opened until all 7 locks are taken off, yet you like others refuse to remove the wrong think of the Seals being Judgments because, well, "I have thought that for years, I can't change now". That is all it is, you know I am right. All of YOUR understandings would have to CHANGE, and God forbid we have to change our group think men's traditions !! The very thing God used to relay this message was well understood 2000 years ago, a king sent his urgent message under seal, no one could read that message until all three seals were broken, thus protecting the message, and for some reason you guys can't register this info as being a Scroll of Judgments to come, when Jesus finally opens the 7th Seal in Rev. 8, the Judgments will fall, it is like taking the 7th lock off a door, only then can it be opened. But you have too much time and effort involved in the Seals being Judgments. Psstt, I had 30 years involved in that "21 Judgment thing also". But alas, I hear the Lord's voice when He tells me you are "WRONG Ron". Hey, it is OK to be wrong, I love being wrong, that way I know I am being taught God's truths so I joy in being told I am wrong !! When you are told you are in error, guess what God then ALWAYS gives you the answer, He can not give the answers to those who refuse to hear His voice say these words, YOU ARE WRONG. Jesus comes at the 7th Vial, which ends the 3rd Woe, which starts with the 7th Trump.
Then you tell me that Rev 14 is the pretribulation rapture, and it has nothing to do with the pretribulation rapture. The coming of Jesus in Revelation 14, the harvest, happens at the 6th seal. It is the twelve tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman that is harvested from the earth. THE WORD TELLS US SPECIFIACLLY THAT IT IS THE JEWS BEING HARVESTED. How do you not see this? Do I need to quote chapter and verse for you so you can see it is Jews being harvested???????????
No, it is the Harvest Chapter, Rev. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18 and 19 are Parenthetical Citation chapters. So, if it is The Harvest Chapter (it is) and God gives us the Jews at the end and the Wicked Grapes at the end, then He can only show us the Pre Trib Rapture in a FLASH BACK. Of course you can't see this, that is on you. When you learn to be wrong, you will then hear God's full understandings. God can not teach those who are NEVER WRONG.
John tells us in Revelation 6 about end times. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 about end times. How do you not see they are telling us the EXACT same thing? The seals do nothing? The seals 1st 6 seals are the complete tribulation period AND the 7th seal is the wrath of God, and you say they are nothing.
When you get to Heaven you will see it, until then I do not think you will ever get it, you value your understandings way too much. The Seals are Jesus prophesying what is about to come, this is a very simple concept. So, you understand Joel 2:31 can be Prophetic but for some reason you gave a mental block that just will not allow Jesus to be Prophesying in Heaven to the Raptured Church what will soon come in 30-75 days. It just can't be, even though it is. My point stands, God does not care about our ideas, nor if we can grasp His ideas, that is not going to change His fast and true facts. He cares about us, but He is the truth !!