Conscience - Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology Online
Knowledge of good and evil Adam and Eve.
So, I'll ask a final time [and a yes or no answer will work just fine]
are you going to accept @Preacher4Truth 's challenge?
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Conscience - Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology Online
Knowledge of good and evil Adam and Eve.
I hope the intent here, is to gain a brother.If God already decided where everyone goes with no freewill involved there is nothing to discuss or debate.
It can be said I suppose that in the Old Testament revelation was not as far advanced as in the New Testament so in a sense there was less Scripture to take into account. (Not that Old Testament Scripture is not very deep and searching.)Is the word conscience used in the Old Testament scripture? I can’t seem to find it, maybe you could help? Thanks in advance for you help.
It this were so, it wouldn't be grace would it?Looks like God owes everyone salvation. Obligated to give everyone a chance to save themselves by making a decision, then after they decide they get the reward, I mean gift of salvation.
Who wants an earthly judge who gives all criminals mercy and sets them free?
Exactly brother!It this were so, it wouldn't be grace would it?
Salvation is on the basis of grace, not supposed "rights".
"All of grace, yes, grace surpassingExactly brother!
This is a misrepresentation of predestination and the Gospel. God elects no one to salvation or damnation. Therefore the Gospel must go out to all, and all are commanded to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, he is pleased, in his appointed and accepted time, effectually to call, by his Word and Spirit
This too is false. Only sinners who first repent and believe are regenerated, thus quickened and renewed by the Holy Spirit.until, being quickened and renewed by the Holy Spirit, he is thereby enabled to answer this call,
This is patently and BLATANTLY false. God does not hinder any one from being saved. Those who are not saved choose to disobey the Gospel.Others, not elected, although they may be called by the ministry of the Word, and may have some common operations of the Spirit, yet they never truly come to Christ, and therefore can not be saved:
This is a misrepresentation of predestination and the Gospel. God elects no one to salvation or damnation. Therefore the Gospel must go out to all, and all are commanded to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
This too is false. Only sinners who first repent and believe are regenerated, thus quickened and renewed by the Holy Spirit.
This is patently and BLATANTLY false. God does not hinder any one from being saved. Those who are not saved choose to disobey the Gospel.
Calvinism has corrupted the Gospel and is itself a false Gospel.
The little numbers at the bottom are bible verses;
Deut 6:4; 1 Cor 8:4, 6, Jer 10:10; 1 Thes 1:9., Job 11:7-9; 26:14. , John 4:24. , 1 Tim 1:17. , Deut 4:15-16; John 4:24 with Luke 24:39. , Acts 14:11, 15. , Mal 3:6; James 1:17., 1 Kings 8:27; Jer 23:23-24. , Psa 90:2; 1 Tim 1:17. , Psa 145:3. ,Gen 17:1; Rev 4:8. , Rom 16:27. , Isa 6:3; Rev 4:8. , Psa 115:3. , Exod 3:14. , Eph 1:11. , Prov 16:4; Rom 11:36. , 1 John 4:8, 16., Exod 34:6-7. , Heb 11:6. , Neh 9:32-33. , Psa 5:5-6. , Exod 34:7; Nahum 1:2-3.
And "yvette nichole bronw" is about all they really say.Sometimes I feel like this is how people look at the verses we give in defense
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All must enter through the gate, which is Jesus and his way. You cannot climb the fence into the fold your way.
"There has to be free will" They say, before even reading. Then when they come to places like Romans 9 they try and squeeze it into the box of their own presuppositions.
"But.... but there is free will, so this Can't mean God chose!"
Others, not elected, although they may be called by the ministry of the Word, and may have some common operations of the Spirit, yet they never truly come to Christ, and therefore can not be saved:
This is patently and BLATANTLY false. God does not hinder any one from being saved. Those who are not saved choose to disobey the Gospel.
And "yvette nichole bronw" is about all they really say.
Anybody can list a string of verses; most people will not even look at them....some will take the reference itself as proof of the position even if the actual verse doesn't support the view. You need to go through each verse and explain how each verse supports your opinion. Set them before the eye of more public scrutiny.
<quote justbyfaith:> And "yvette nichole bronw" is about all they really say.
Anybody can list a string of verses; most people will not even look at them....some will take the reference itself as proof of the position even if the actual verse doesn't support the view. You need to go through each verse and explain how each verse supports your opinion. Set them before the eye of more public scrutiny.</quote>
Romans 9:15 --> God has mercy on those whom He wants to have mercy, and does not on those whom He does not want to. Mercy is the Lords to dispense. He also hardens all whom he chooses to harden
Ephesians 1:11 --> We are chosen in God, and are predestined, not according to anything God foresaw we would do, but according to what God saw would bring Himself the ultimate glory
Hebrews 6:17 --> God chose whom He chose simply to show the immutability of His counsel, not based on foreseen faith
James 1:13 --> God is not the one that makes man sin, and therefore does not condemn them to hell; their sins condemn them to hell.
1 John 1:5 --> God is the light of men, and without Him we can only choose darkness
Proverbs 16:33 --> If God controls all things, even the smallest measures such as lots and seeming change, much more does He control those whom will enter His kingdom in Heaven
Matthew 17:12 --> Men did not know Jesus, even when he was before them in the flesh; much less can they know him now apart from the work of the holy spirit
John 19:11 --> There is no power unless Jesus give it, especially the power to believe
Acts 2:23 --> Jesus death and whom he would die for was based not on foreknown righteousness, but on the counsel of God.
Acts 4:27-28 --> God knows and allows everything that will ever happen to happen, and this especially includes who is and isn't converted by the work of His Spirit.
I could continue, but I'll let you try and deny these first before I waste my time.
Calvinism teaches that God pushes them through the gate; that they do not walk in of their own volition.
The Bible, on the other hand, says the following:
Psa 110:3, Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
God did choose...according to foreknowledge of our choice to either receive or reject Him as Saviour and Lord.
Utterly false. None call upon the LORD unless God does a work of regeneration.These verses do not exactly say what you say they say. If they did, then we can with all good conscience cut Romans 10:9-13 out of our Bibles.
It’s simple to see what’s being argued here. Gods glory vs mans glory. It’s impossible to be seen through self righteous prideful eyes.[/QUOTE]Romans 9:15 --> God has mercy on those whom He wants to have mercy, and does not on those whom He does not want to. Mercy is the Lords to dispense. He also hardens all whom he chooses to harden
Ephesians 1:11 --> We are chosen in God, and are predestined, not according to anything God foresaw we would do, but according to what God saw would bring Himself the ultimate glory
Hebrews 6:17 --> God chose whom He chose simply to show the immutability of His counsel, not based on foreseen faith
James 1:13 --> God is not the one that makes man sin, and therefore does not condemn them to hell; their sins condemn them to hell.
1 John 1:5 --> God is the light of men, and without Him we can only choose darkness
Proverbs 16:33 --> If God controls all things, even the smallest measures such as lots and seeming change, much more does He control those whom will enter His kingdom in Heaven
Matthew 17:12 --> Men did not know Jesus, even when he was before them in the flesh; much less can they know him now apart from the work of the holy spirit
John 19:11 --> There is no power unless Jesus give it, especially the power to believe
Acts 2:23 --> Jesus death and whom he would die for was based not on foreknown righteousness, but on the counsel of God.
Acts 4:27-28 --> God knows and allows everything that will ever happen to happen, and this especially includes who is and isn't converted by the work of His Spirit.
I could continue, but I'll let you try and deny these first before I waste my time.
These verses do not exactly say what you say they say. If they did, then we can with all good conscience cut Romans 10:9-13 out of our Bibles.
It’s simple to see what’s being argued here. Gods glory vs mans glory. It’s impossible to be seen through self righteous prideful eyes.