Discerning : The Water Cults

[Truther]

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

And the remission of our sins is per the blood.

Proving the blood is acquired via baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

Omitting the name of Jesus Christ makes it a mere bath.

 

[Truther]

Peter was preaching John's baptism of repentance. However, as we open up the Scriptures, and are taught a more perfect way, we realize that it's the BLOOD that cleanses of sin to fulfill the OT Scriptures.

That's all he preached?...


38 Then Peter said unto them..... Repent!

Or this?...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You think folks are saved by water alone...that's your problem.

No, but the name of Jesus Christ spoken over someone while in the water remits the sins.

This is why just getting the Holy Ghost is in addition to water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

Also, why folks were baptized in the name of Jesus Christ in Samaria without the Holy Ghost per Acts 8.

If it was not essential, it would not have been done.

The problem with modern anti-baptismalists are simple. They fear water in the name of Jesus Christ.(Just what the enemy wants them to do).

No one is saved by water,

we are saved by blood.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I like Campbells soup.

Anyway, I follow Acts 2:38.

The name of Jesus Christ during water baptism was Peter's solution to remit sins.

The same was Paul's solution to be baptized INTO Christ.

If you don't get INTO Christ via baptism, you are not in Christ.

You have not died with Christ, are not buried with Christ and are not going to be resurrected by Christ.

Acts 28 does not say what you think, you would be smart to dig deep into that vers, namely the greek

 

[Truther]

No one is saved by water,

we are saved by blood.

Of course.

But the blood is obtained by speaking the name of Jesus Christ while in the water as we are buried with Christ in baptism.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Busted!!!

You omitted/deleted this from the verse...."and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins".

Cool, are you David Blain, making it disappear before our eyes?

Yep for

It does not say I order to recieve, they already had the Holy Spirit because they repented, they were now asked to be baptized because they recieved remission

 

[Truther]

Acts 28 does not say what you think, you would be smart to dig deep into that vers, namely the greek

Greek this....


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Pearl]

Paul said we are buried with Christ in baptism.

If we are already born before being buried then we are buried alive.

Not cool.

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[Eternally Grateful]

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

The blood comes via water repentance and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ.

The Holy Ghost is not the sin remitting blood, but the resurrecting Spirit.

This is so worrisome in so many ways

it in effect states God is powerless unless someone. Hoses to be baptized, does the work of getting where he needs to be and allows some sinner to dunk him in water,

Sad

 

[Truther]

Yep for

It does not say I order to recieve, they already had the Holy Spirit because they repented, they were now asked to be baptized because they recieved remission

I see what you are saying.

You think it says this...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and receive the Holy Ghost for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Yikes!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That's all he preached?...


38 Then Peter said unto them..... Repent!

Or this?...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

He to,d everyone to repent, he did not tell everyone to be baptized, that’s the part you fail to grasp.

 

[07-07-07]

No one is saved by water,

we are saved by blood.

This is the truth of Scripture.

Revelation 1
[5] And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
[6] And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[Truther]

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Yes, if anyone is alive in Christ before baptism they are buried alive.

This is why they are terrified of being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

They are awaiting a terrible fate....


3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death....

 

[Truther]

This is so worrisome in so many ways

it in effect states God is powerless unless someone. Hoses to be baptized, does the work of getting where he needs to be and allows some sinner to dunk him in water,

Sad

Acts 2 is sad?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Of course.

But the blood is obtained by speaking the name of Jesus Christ while in the water as we are buried with Christ in baptism.

Nope

the blood is obtaining by calling out on the name of the lord and believing I. Your heart Jesus raised him from the dead, it is recieved by hearing the word, the gospel of your salvation, and having heard believing, at which time you are given the spirit In Your hearts, it is not by a work of righteousness which we have done but by his mercy, by the washing and new birth of the holy spirit,

your limiting God like the jews tried to with a ceremony, only they used the ceremony of physical circumcision to replace spiritual circumcision, the way you use physical baptism to replace spiritual

Paul calls it a different gospel and says it should be anathema

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Greek this....


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

No Greek there,

guess you can not differentiate between Greek and english.

how can we trust you with Gods word?

 

[Truther]

He to,d everyone to repent, he did not tell everyone to be baptized, that’s the part you fail to grasp.

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I see what you are saying.

You think it says this...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and receive the Holy Ghost for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Yikes!

Nope, it does not say that

your making a doctrine based on one mistranslated passage, your hurt your own case my friend

 

[Truther]

No Greek there,

guess you can not differentiate between Greek and english.

how can we trust you with Gods word?

I speak English, not 2000 year old Greek.

This will suffice...


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Truther]

Nope, it does not say that

your making a doctrine based on one mistranslated passage, your hurt your own case my friend

What else does this say?....

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.