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I know I might cop a bit of backlash here for posting this, you may be a Trump fan or you may not be, but just making sure you know, it's definitely not recommended for anyone to follow Trump's suggestion on injecting disinfectant.

Here's an article on it.

'It's irresponsible and it's dangerous': Experts rip Trump's idea of injecting disinfectant to treat COVID-19
Whenever notorious fake media like NBC publishes something, that raises a red flag for me. I have seen the original video, and read the transcript. It is not at all true. Just a false political attack on Trump. :-(
 
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Usually with the flu, moving into warmer weather seems to disarm it. But look at Italy, most of the country was in the 70's last month. The lower to middle of the country is on the Mediterranean sea. One would have thought that their severe COVID-19 problem would have cleared up by now if heat killed it.

It is meant to reach 39c (102f) today in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
 

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I've heard that heat kills this virus...we should all be getting saunas, lol.
Yet there seems to be a contradiction there also. Don't viruses and bacteria thrive in humid conditions? Which is why they swab the nasal cavity to find it?
Are Eskimos more susceptible then? Every heard of influenza viruses wipng out Inuit villages?
 
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So guys, I watched it, it's after the 25:30 minute mark of this video if you are interested. Yes it may have been a question, may not have been that obvious though, and it definitely sounded like ideas being tossed about.

Trump did really say.

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"

Trump then goes on to say

"Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me."


 

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On a separate note:

I guess we have more trust for the media in Australia though, as these are trained professional people, even though I wished they didn't take sides. You don't get to be a News reader, news reporter or a career journalist for CNN, NBC, Fox News, BBC, ABC, 7 News, 9 News, Sky News, SBS World News, Al Jazeera, Washington Post, Jeruselam Post, etc. The list goes on, you don't get to work for them unless if you have the right training and experience.

For example these are the requirements/process in Australia
Bachelor of Media and Communication | Edith Cowan University
 
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The list goes on, you don't get to work for them unless if you have the right training and experience.
You can have all the training and experience you want but if you are suffering from a serious mental disability -- MADNESS -- it does not matter. You will lie to yourself and lie to others thinking that you are telling the truth. And that is where the media are right now. It is called TDS and it is a genuine malady.

HERE ARE THE FACTS: A POOR CHOICE OF WORDS
"President Trump on Thursday during his presser was referring to discussions of testing ultraviolet light on patients and possibly using the light inside the body. “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it [the virus] out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, cause you see it gets in the lungs.”

Via Breitbart:

President Trump is being quoted out of context — as usual — by left-wingers on social media who are accusing him of suggesting injecting people with disinfectant as a way of curing coronavirus infections.

Trump used the word “inject,” but what he meant was using a process — which he left “medical doctors” to define — in which patients’ lungs might be cleared of the virus, given new knowledge about its response to light and other factors.

Earlier in the briefing, Dr. Bill Bryant, leader of the Science and Technology Directorate at the Department of Homeland Security, described the results of new government research that showed that the coronavirus did not survive long in solar light, warmer temperatures, and more humid conditions. He added that disinfectants had also been effective against it.

Trump, responding to that, noted that there had been discussions of testing ultraviolet light on patients, or of methods to bring light inside the body. “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it [the virus] out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, cause you see it gets in the lungs.”

At no time did Trump actually propose injecting patients with disinfectant; he deferred to “medical doctors” to figure out how to apply Dr. Bryant’s research.


Pelosi Spreads Dangerous Misinformation Amid Coronavirus Pandemic: "The President is Asking People to Inject Lysol Into Their Lungs" (VIDEO)

Knowing that the media are out to get him, Mr. Trump should be extremely careful in how he words his statements. Or better yet, he should ask Dr. Ben Carson to take over, and go and do what he does best -- get the economy going.
 
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I know I might cop a bit of backlash here for posting this, you may be a Trump fan or you may not be, but just making sure you know, it's definitely not recommended for anyone to follow Trump's suggestion on injecting disinfectant.

Here's an article on it.

'It's irresponsible and it's dangerous': Experts rip Trump's idea of injecting disinfectant to treat COVID-19
If you listen to his briefing a reporter asked him why he suggested that and he said it was a sarcastic comment.
That's one thing I pray about hard...that he will stop using rhetoric that the press uses against him.
 

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If you listen to his briefing a reporter asked him why he suggested that and he said it was a sarcastic comment.
That's one thing I pray about hard...that he will stop using rhetoric that the press uses against him.
Sadly, that is just who he is. And I guess he will always fall victim to his ego's need to create an argument he can win. I honestly am beginning to realize the ruckuses he stirs up with the Media (and always has, for decades) are probably no accidental choice of words or "slip of the tongue". He starts them. He enjoys them. And, he always ends up winning.
I think he is deliberately taking advantage of something the Left originally created, "The Culture of Victimhood". And he hooks them right into going for it like a masterful fisherman.
 
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Sadly, that is just who he is. And I guess he will always fall victim to his ego's need to create an argument he can win. I honestly am beginning to realize the ruckuses he stirs up with the Media (and always has, for decades) is probably no accidental choice of words or "slip of the tongue". He starts it. He enjoys it. And, he always ends up winning.
Yes, when he was running as a presidential candidate I would cringe at some of the things he said....like calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas...
Shifty Schiff, Sleepy Biden...and he has caused a ripple effect on his supporters...and media hosts such as Hannity (who I used to like now I really can't hardly watch him). They use his same labels on their social media and programs.....which in turn creates backlash....which in turn creates another back-backlash....geez.
I remember a song that Buck Owens sang.....I was looking back to see, if you were looking back to see, if I was looking back to see, if you were looking back at me....now with my analytical mind it took me about a week to figure that out....lol.
 

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You can have all the training and experience you want but if you are suffering from a serious mental disability -- MADNESS -- it does not matter. You will lie to yourself and lie to others thinking that you are telling the truth. And that is where the media are right now. It is called TDS and it is a genuine malady.

HERE ARE THE FACTS: A POOR CHOICE OF WORDS
"President Trump on Thursday during his presser was referring to discussions of testing ultraviolet light on patients and possibly using the light inside the body. “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it [the virus] out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, cause you see it gets in the lungs.”

Via Breitbart:

President Trump is being quoted out of context — as usual — by left-wingers on social media who are accusing him of suggesting injecting people with disinfectant as a way of curing coronavirus infections.

Trump used the word “inject,” but what he meant was using a process — which he left “medical doctors” to define — in which patients’ lungs might be cleared of the virus, given new knowledge about its response to light and other factors.

Earlier in the briefing, Dr. Bill Bryant, leader of the Science and Technology Directorate at the Department of Homeland Security, described the results of new government research that showed that the coronavirus did not survive long in solar light, warmer temperatures, and more humid conditions. He added that disinfectants had also been effective against it.

Trump, responding to that, noted that there had been discussions of testing ultraviolet light on patients, or of methods to bring light inside the body. “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it [the virus] out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, cause you see it gets in the lungs.”

At no time did Trump actually propose injecting patients with disinfectant; he deferred to “medical doctors” to figure out how to apply Dr. Bryant’s research.


Pelosi Spreads Dangerous Misinformation Amid Coronavirus Pandemic: "The President is Asking People to Inject Lysol Into Their Lungs" (VIDEO)

Knowing that the media are out to get him, Mr. Trump should be extremely careful in how he words his statements. Or better yet, he should ask Dr. Ben Carson to take over, and go and do what he does best -- get the economy going.
He needs someone to write his speeches and stick to them word for word.
 
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He needs someone to write his speeches and stick to them word for word.
Maybe hire a press secretary who actually does press conferences. The previous one did zero press conferences. Someone joked that she had more drunk driving convictions on her record than press conferences.
 
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If you listen to his briefing a reporter asked him why he suggested that and he said it was a sarcastic comment. That's one thing I pray about hard...that he will stop using rhetoric that the press uses against him.
On of the biggest blunders made by Trump over this pandemic is having those daily briefings. That is called SELF-SABOTAGE, and he has had a habit of sabotaging himself over and over again since taking office, even though he knows that the media hate him.

1. He should have issued a COMPREHENSIVE Executive Order on February 1 to cover absolutely every aspect of how the government would deal with this emergency (including the protection of civil rights from government overreach).
2. After a proper presidential response from the Oval Office at the beginning, he need not have said another word, and definitely not had daily arguments with reporters. That is demeaning for a President.
3. He could have appointed Dr. Ben Carson -- who is smart, cool, and black -- and also a Christian, to handle the crisis and head up the Task Force, which would be limited to those who stand with Trump. If necessary Pence could have complemented Carson.
4. He should have fired Fauci and Birx as soon as their grotesque projections were seen to be nonsensical, and as soon as Fauci started contradicting him publicly. He is still hanging on to these people which shows tremendous weakness.
5. He should have immediately ordered an investigation into the funding of coronavirus research in China with American dollars when the news broke out about the Wuhan lab, and shut down all funding to all foreign entities for all purposes, regardless.
6. He should have VETOED that stimulus bill and sent it back for major revisions which would remove all the padding and all the pork inserted by the evil Democrats. He could have also instructed McConnell to do everything in his power to prevent Pelosi etc from sabotaging the funding. They have a "Nuclear Option" in the Senate, but they fail to use it, and always buckle under the Democrats.
 
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On of the biggest blunders made by Trump over this pandemic is having those daily briefings. That is called SELF-SABOTAGE, and he has had a habit of sabotaging himself over and over again since taking office, even though he knows that the media hate him.

1. He should have issued a COMPREHENSIVE Executive Order on February 1 to cover absolutely every aspect of how the government would deal with this emergency (including the protection of civil rights from government overreach).
2. After a proper presidential response from the Oval Office at the beginning, he need not have said another word, and definitely not had daily arguments with reporters. That is demeaning for a President.
3. He could have appointed Dr. Ben Carson -- who is smart, cool, and black -- and also a Christian, to handle the crisis and head up the Task Force, which would be limited to those who stand with Trump. If necessary Pence could have complemented Carson.
4. He should have fired Fauci and Birx as soon as their grotesque projections were seen to be nonsensical, and as soon as Fauci started contradicting him publicly. He is still hanging on to these people which shows tremendous weakness.
5. He should have immediately ordered an investigation into the funding of coronavirus research in China with American dollars when the news broke out about the Wuhan lab, and shut down all funding to all foreign entities for all purposes, regardless.
6. He should have VETOED that stimulus bill and sent it back for major revisions which would remove all the padding and all the pork inserted by the evil Democrats. He could have also instructed McConnell to do everything in his power to prevent Pelosi etc from sabotaging the funding. They have a "Nuclear Option" in the Senate, but they fail to use it, and always buckle under the Democrats.
Mostly "Hindsight," on your part, Enoch111. Notice that YOU didn't say any of this stuff on February 1, either. (It's easy to claim you knew all the answers, AFTER THE FACT, on almost anything.)
 
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6. He should have VETOED that stimulus bill and sent it back for major revisions which would remove all the padding and all the pork inserted by the evil Democrats. He could have also instructed McConnell to do everything in his power to prevent Pelosi etc from sabotaging the funding. They have a "Nuclear Option" in the Senate, but they fail to use it, and always buckle under the Democrats.
Ah, but Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee inserted a provision into that bill was a bonanza for wealthy people, creating a wonderful loophole for them. It's called quid pro quo: The Democrats get the pork they want and the Republicans get theirs.

Tax provision in coronavirus stimulus will mostly benefit wealthy: Study

Roughly 80% of the benefits of the provision will go to roughly 43,000 taxpayers who earn more than $1 million a year, according to the analysis conducted by the Joint Committee on Taxation, which was first reported by The Washington Post.

The provision reversed an element of the 2017 GOP tax law that allowed a married couple to use their first $500,000 in losses from businesses formed as pass-throughs -- entities that pass profits to owners and pay taxes through the individual income tax -- to offset taxes on nonbusiness income.

The measure lifted the limit for this year, and allows filers to apply it retroactively for the last two years.

"It's a really big deal for a really small group of wealthy people," Matt Gardner, a senior fellow at the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, told ABC News.
 
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Yet there seems to be a contradiction there also. Don't viruses and bacteria thrive in humid conditions? Which is why they swab the nasal cavity to find it?
Are Eskimos more susceptible then? Every heard of influenza viruses wipng out Inuit villages?

Just sayin I heard it.
 

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Just sayin I heard it.
Yeah, I know. I've heard and read the same thing. Just seems to me a contradiction. Like many it seems, I don't know any longer what to believe. And maybe even that is intentional. After all, Babylon means confusion right?. Partake of that wine, imbibe, soak in the information and focus on the BS and one no longer can focus on reality... He's drunk...mad. just pays I think to keep all options open and trust no one.
 
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