Do the blacks have a right to hold a grudge?

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Reggie Belafonte

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Slavery is an odd thing:

Just about every race has sold and bought or traded those of their own race....yes, even blacks.

Jews were taught to not buy their own race.

And men were taught to not BECOME in debt.

However, men don't always listen, and do become indebted, thus men were taught, if you are indebted, and can not pay your debt, enslave yourself to your debtor.

However, many are not Taught the facts. And in the US, many of the public schools teach from Liberal designed and edited school books used under Government authority, and IMO simply perpetuate constant divide among the people, be it among races, or groups, or politicos....Because they AVOID the true Facts, and instead instigate a pity party and division.

It is a political hoax, to publically speak out of their mouths though their veneered tooth grin of unity, while cohorting behind closed doors to instigate and perpetuate division.

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Jews were never a race, as for the Semitic race they were of many different tribes back in the days and most Semitic people of today are of the Islamic religion in fact.
It's the Zionist Talmud mob that claim such stupid rubbish lie as a Jews being a race and their cunning has brainwashed the west with such obscurities.

To actually be truly Anti-Semitic, one would have to not like most Islamic people in fact, if you want to be truly factually correct, but to be Politically Correct well that's always indulge in a lie in fact, because there is nothing truly correct in Politics as that's the nature of such beast in fact.
Anyone with intelligence knows that nothing political is correct or ever was ever correct.

When one is truly Born Again, one is then a member of Gods People regardless of race, race does not come into such a thing, because we are then transformed as one people. so as the Bible says there is nether Jew nor Greek, such has been done away with and anyone who thinks such is not so is under the powers of Satan. they are rejecting Jesus Christ. so no wonder we can see all the troubles going on that divide us all.

To have faith in any race that they are going to create a better world is just totally insane and just look where the world is heading, it's on the path that only leads to becoming enslaved using mans works and rejecting Jesus Christ, who is the only way in fact.

The Jews never did cut the mustard, they needed a Lord and Saviour and people who reject such are lost.
One must look to Jesus Christ because he is the only way, as any other way will be just a disaster.
Sadly all the Christian churches are lost now because they are peddling a worldly religion and turned there backs on Jesus Christ as the well spring that they must only come to. mans works has never cut it all through history as it always falls short.
 
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Only stupid moronic people hold a grudge.
How is holding a grudge going to help anything, I have only seen such things make it worse every time, never better.
It's some what like holding a hot potato and you can not let go of it, well that only becomes your own problem. to deal with it you have to let it go or one can not reason.
 

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Jews were never a race, as for the Semitic race they were of many different tribes back in the days and most Semitic people of today are of the Islamic religion in fact.

Race has many definitions; such as:

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.

I have no problems saying Jews are a race.

When one is truly Born Again, one is then a member of Gods People regardless of race, race does not come into such a thing, because we are then transformed as one people.

I am aware, NATURAL people have differences in looks, cultures, languages, customs, etc....

And a MAN IN CHRIST, transcends those differences.

so as the Bible says there is nether Jew nor Greek, such has been done away with and anyone who thinks such is not so is under the powers of Satan. they are rejecting Jesus Christ. so no wonder we can see all the troubles going on that divide us all.

Division was Jesus' INTENT, when He came to Earth.

Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

Thanks for sharing your opinion in the rest of your post.

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Oh how I love the Fall here! The American Indians have always intrigued me, and I believe they were very taken advantage of by the Europeans. I know several of them, one is a born again Christian, giant of a man! lol. We have so many Tribal names around here, especially street names: Onondaga, Shenandoah, Tuscarora...lot's in South Buffalo. I'm glad you got too see the Fall leaves!

We do here too. We have Sioux, Stoney Assiniboine and Blackfoot in the area. And like you,, the names of roads , towns and villages , etc etc are Indian names. I many many of the tribes ran up here to stop being put into reservations.

But the Blackfoot and Stoney were here from the beginning...
 
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We do here too. We have Sioux, Stoney Assiniboine and Blackfoot in the area. And like you,, the names of roads , towns and villages , etc etc are Indian names. I many many of the tribes ran up here to stop being put into reservations.

But the Blackfoot and Stoney were here from the beginning...
Those reservations are horrible! We have several Indian owned casinos, they are raking in money like made, yet their own people live in such lousy conditions...at least here they do. Not to mention the 4 years I lived in South Dakota, the Sioux were very poor, and yes, known for alcoholism. It is sad.
 
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We have several Indian owned casinos, they are raking in money like made, yet their own people live in such lousy conditions...at least here they do.
Everywhere. What has not happened in that the chiefs have not been lined up and shot [either with arrows or with a shotgun (fire stick, thunder stick?)].
 
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Fortunately my parents didn't raise their kids racist. They never used racial slurs or repeated any racist jokes or put down type myths. I can still hear my mother's sweet voice saying "Frankie the colored folks are trying to live and get by just like we are" .

Our racist governor of the era, the dishonorable Orval E. Faubus of Central high fame didmuch to promote the evils of hate division between blacks and whites.

Before he threw gasoline on the issue I never saw trouble anywhere between races. Not that it wasn't around. Many poor black families lived close by us but we never had friction. There was an old black man I often spoke with when I was a young teen. He was white headed and I'd sit on the porch of his small poverty stricken shotgun house and we'd talk about fishing and such things as he could discuss with a young white boy. I was fond of that old man.

The local sawmill was surrounded by shotgun frame houses populated by black families. When I fished on Rock creek and was too tired to want to clean fish I'd give them to a large black very poor family I passed by often. They were jubilant to get the extra food and were always glad to see me. After "uncle" Faubus threw his racial bomb though every thing changed. Suddenly I didn't feel welcome in those places. Their was a heaviness in the air. As a child I couldn't understand and as an adult I still can't.

Hate is always a divider. Always. To say that trouble and hate is all one sided is incorrect. Hate is pretty generally evenly distributed. The best of them is sharper than a thorn God says.

Nothing amazes men more than plain talk and honest dealing.

The truth even when spoken in love is very seldomly received with open arms. Prejudice and siding with the mob however is welcomed with open arms.

Truth has to bang on the door while a lie can walk in and sit down at the table.

Jesus the Christ spoke nothing but the truth in love, yet was rejected everywhere he went. He even went against the historic hatred of the Jews against the Samaritans to speak truth and stay with them two days after the samaritan woman spread his fame. His disciples, were confounded that he was rubbing elbows with them.

How many racial, social, economic, cultural divisions can be listed? They are without number. Right or wrong they exist. Many are indeed good vs evil and those taking the evil side suppose they are the good guys.

Race vs race always involve underlying issues.

Black vs white
White vs black
Black vs oriental
Oriental vs Hispanic
Citizen vs government
Educated vs ignorant
Wealthy vs poor
Strong vs weak
Tribe vs tribe
Able vs disabled
Churched vs unchurched
Union vs right to work
England vs France
Protestant vs catholic
Walls vs open borders


This is a never ending list with each side supposing themselves superior to the other.

How, any false and hypocritical beliefs do I harbor consciously or unconsciously? Only God knows. He's whaled some of the hypocrisy from me and:

Psalm 118:18 KJVS
The Lord hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.

I see that love and friendliness is rejected many times. In stores I smile at blacks and many times, mostly, get a blank stare. I get the same from whites,

Children can lead us. You can usually get a smile from a little one that can open a door of conversation.

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...been going on for a couple thousand years now i guess, and going on today, yes, the struggle is real,
but who is the enemy? Can you tell me? ty
Our greatest enemy is ourselves. Well, it is for me. That innate selfish nature that impedes the spirit of love that God would have us manifest in our claim to be His children. The war however is outside of us...we in effect are the prize. It is a war between Christ and Satan, and the controversy is focused upon the character of God. Which side we take in this controversy doesn't determine the outcome of the war, but does determine the part we play in its consummation.
I believe there is a real literal 'enemy' of God and His people. While he has used many agents in the past to attack and spoil the work of God in the world, I view prophecy as being quite specific and literal when it describes a coming war that is waged specifically against the final remnant of God's people. I do not see everything described therein as literal, but if it is not absurd, or ridiculous to accept as literal, then I accept it as so. You mentioned elsewhere the drying up of the river Euphrates as being necessary in order to make way for the kings of the east. It is true that many see this as literal. I, like you, think it absurd. It is indeed figurative...yet the figure must be interpreted or understood by that which is literal right? So then, as an example, how are we to understand that passage of scripture? What does the river represent? Why the Euphrates and not the Mississippi? Or the Tigris? Or the Danube? Or Cooper's Creek? And who are the kings of the East?
The scripture itself can help us to understand. In the OT we read of Cyrus drying up (diverting) the river Euphrates in order to enter into and conquer Babylon. Prophecy informs us that there is yet to come a global formation of a church/state union called Babylon the Great. Just as the Euphrates river was the support and provider for trade for ancient Babylon, and when dried up made way for its demise, so I believe the future demise of Babylon the Great will be accomplished through the drying up of its support base...the state beast upon which she rode. That state beast (a UN enterprise of some sort???) must also be supported by the people...so the base support for this counterfeit religious Antichrist is in the [people who formerly worshiped her and obeyed her precepts and doctrines. Those who 'drank' of the wine of her fornication. I see them turning on her, destroying her, the result of which is the mourning heard from all the tradespeople and merchants who benefited from being associated with her. So prophecy is not all literal, but nor is it all metaphorical. The trick is discerning where to draw the line.
The war? Both spiritual in the heavens between angels but not necessarily physical with casualties etc, but it does play out in real life here on earth with many casualties.
I have a question or two. What do you believe takes place after death and/or resurrection? What do you make of Bible passages such as 2 Thessalonians? Revelation 21 and 22? 1Cor.15:50-53?
 
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Our little discussion was born from a remark you made way back that the black folk should simply "get over it".
Naturally the white murderer would have a better chance.

By the same token why did the black man go into VOLUNTARY SLAVERY by messing with drugs, whether marijuana or anything else?
You comment here literally reveals why the black fella can't just "get over it", because there is still inherent racism he must overcome. Sure, some exceptions such as Booker T manage to scratch out an honourable life that brings praise and respect from both sides...but little do we understand the price he paid emotionally and spiritually to climb that mountain. As you say, the white criminal, even a killer, will find it easier to survive in an Arkansas or Georgia jail than any black man, regardless of his crime, even minor ones such as drug possession. I am not defending drugs, but the fact is black folk, bot men and women, still have a long long road to travel on to receive any sort of parity with the white man in American culture. Especially in the south. And I know, freak shows like Farakhan do not help their cause.
 

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I am not defending drugs, but the fact is black folk, bot men and women, still have a long long road to travel on to receive any sort of parity with the white man in American culture. Especially in the south.

I don't know if it's as long a way to travel as it used to be. Still a ways to go, but even the blacks themselves are now recognizing that in a number of areas of American culture things are improving noticeably. I was watching a program just the other day where one was advocating instructing their children to focus more on the opportunities now before them than on how oppressed they all still are as a people.
 
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Our little discussion was born from a remark you made way back that the black folk should simply "get over it".

You comment here literally reveals why the black fella can't just "get over it", because there is still inherent racism he must overcome. Sure, some exceptions such as Booker T manage to scratch out an honourable life that brings praise and respect from both sides...but little do we understand the price he paid emotionally and spiritually to climb that mountain. As you say, the white criminal, even a killer, will find it easier to survive in an Arkansas or Georgia jail than any black man, regardless of his crime, even minor ones such as drug possession. I am not defending drugs, but the fact is black folk, bot men and women, still have a long long road to travel on to receive any sort of parity with the white man in American culture. Especially in the south. And I know, freak shows like Farakhan do not help their cause.

Btw, how do you know so much about American culture as an Aussie? Did you live here for a time or something? I forget if you mentioned something like that or not.
 
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I mind! I mind! :p
Actually, you're efforts will be greatly appreciated. Take all the time you need : )
Okay. I think I've found what you need. Enjoy.....
 

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Btw, how do you know so much about American culture as an Aussie? Did you live here for a time or something? I forget if you mentioned something like that or not.
Actually I'm a kiwi living in Oz. But no, never lived there...just read a lot. Old and reasonable well educated. Oh, not that it makes any difference, but I have a lot of relations in the US, mainly around Kansas. MY great grandfather's brother emigrated there from Wales. My forbears went to NZ.
 

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Okay. I think I've found what you need. Enjoy.....

Gee thanks... You really went out of your way :) I took one look at that and forgot what I was asking, LoL.

So glad you sent me the large print version. Any finer than that and I'd probably go blind before I found what I was looking for.

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Love = treating others as your equal. And the real challenge is treating those who hate you as your equal. Jesus would rather die than not do this.
 
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I don't know if it's as long a way to travel as it used to be. Still a ways to go, but even the blacks themselves are now recognizing that in a number of areas of American culture things are improving noticeably. I was watching a program just the other day where one was advocating instructing their children to focus more on the opportunities now before them than on how oppressed they all still are as a people.
Sounds good, but I don't see that happening. (It takes more work.)
 

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See, the Muslims don't view our forgiveness and kindness in the face of aggression as being wisdom; they view it as stupidity and gullibility, and all the more reason why we should be exposed as fools. It's for this same reason that they have no respect for the notion that Jesus would willingly sacrifice Himself on a cross.
St Francis and the Sultan of Egypt?

but the truth becomes obvious when you cannot state any personal complaints, but only tropes wadr
i mean don't get me wrong idc so you get away with it here, but.

see, this post and my last one together kinda paint a certain picture imo, and you are allowed to believe the picture is about Muslims if you want to