Do you support Black Lives Matter?

[Hidden In Him]

The Soros/boogeyman stuff is pretty passe' by now.

Passe'? Yehren, the only people it is passe' to are those who were so mentally flighty to begin with that their opinions never mattered anyway. By stating you think it is merely "boogeyman stuff," you are showing your ignorance.

This is not a discussion, nor was I asking for a response. Just informing you that despite being an intelligent man you are not nearly as educated in these matters as you think you are. I was once there as well, but I "moved on from it."

In Christ,
Hidden

 

[Yehren]

The Soros/boogeyman stuff is pretty passe' by now.

Passe'?

Yep. Most neo-Nazis have given up on that one.

Yehren, the only people it is passe' to are those who were so mentally flighty to begin with that their opinions never mattered anyway. By stating you think it is merely "boogeyman stuff," you are showing your ignorance.

Skepticism. When your guys claim Soros was a member of the SS, they show complete ignorance. You realize how old he was when the Nazis were rounding up Jews?

This is not a discussion,

Actually, it is. That's what this forum is for. Thought you knew.

nor was I asking for a response. Just informing you that despite being an intelligent man you are not nearly as educated in these matters as you think you are.

You're wrong about that. I've got a lot of coursework and research in recent European history. I happened to be stationed where the choices were pretty much take college courses or drink. And I don't like to drink much. If you knew more about it, you'd be harder to fool. I'm just in a rational place because I'm familiar with the facts.

I was once there as well, but I "moved on from it."

Pity.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Actually, it is. That's what this forum is for. Thought you knew.

Yes, apparently it will be, LoL

Yep. Most neo-Nazis have given up on that one.

Skepticism. When your guys claim Soros was a member of the SS, they show complete ignorance. You realize how old he was when the Nazis were rounding up Jews?

No wonder you underestimate the intelligence of people when you assume they are coming from this kind of perspective.

I'm just in a rational place because I'm familiar with the facts.

Rational. Alright. Then let's do this: Tell me what you believe about the Devil still holding the kingdoms of this earth in his hand, and being able to give them to whomever would serve him?

 

[Yehren]

The Waldensians were not Cathars.

They were different branches of the same religion which cooperated, but had some differences:

Peter Valdez and other Cathar preachers, men and women, were called ‘Barba’s. if a Barba came into town, other Waldensians would meet them secretly, confess to their sins, shelter them, and help them get to the next town. They preached that sacraments were useless for salvation. They also condemned the Catholic clergy as being unworthy of holding religious office. However, their most distinctive characteristic was that they insisted on a literal interpretation of the Bible. They insisted on the right to read the Bible for themselves.


Waldensians tried to live strictly based on the Bible. For example, because the Bible said, ‘Swear not at all’, Waldensians avoided swearing. This was used as a technique to find Waldensians: they asked an accused person to swear an oath, and if they did not, they were Waldensians.


Both Cathars and Waldensians contributed a lot to the religious reforms of the next centuries, despite all the efforts to stop and execute them.


Common Questions about Cathars and Waldensians

Q: Who were the Cathars and Waldensians?
In the second half of the 12th century, two major international heretic movements emerged: the Cathars and the Waldensians. The Cathars had no single founder that history knows about, unlike the Waldensians, whose founder was Peter Valdez.


Q: What were the beliefs of the Cathars?
The Cathars believed that God and Satan were equally powerful, which is incomplete contrast to Christian beliefs. Their beliefs were significantly different from their concurrent heretics, Waldensians. However, both Cathars and Waldensians were regarded as heretics by the Christian Church.


Q: Did the Cathars believe in reincarnation?
Yes. Cathars believed in reincarnation, and that created a way for the Church to identify them. The Church would make accused heretic kill a chicken, and if they refused, it was proof that they are Cathars. Cathars and Waldensians both had beliefs that the Church used to recognize and arrest them


Q: What did Waldensians believe?
Waldensians condemned the Catholic clergy as being unworthy of holding religious office. They also insisted on literal interpretations of the Bible and the right to read the Bible for oneself. They were pacifists and did not swear. Killing chickens was a test to find Cathars, and Waldensians had to swear in front of the Church.
Cathars and Waldensians in the High Middle Ages

 

[Yehren]

Skepticism. When your guys claim Soros was a member of the SS, they show complete ignorance. You realize how old he was when the Nazis were rounding up Jews?

No wonder you underestimate the intelligence of people when you assume they are coming from this kind of perspective.

CLAIM: Democratic philanthropist George Soros was a Nazi soldier

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. A photo said to be George Soros as a Nazi soldier is actually a photo of Oskar Groening, a former SS sergeant at Auschwitz Birkenau, the Nazi German concentration and extermination camp, operated from 1940-1945 in Poland.

THE FACTS: A photo circulating widely on Facebook is not Soros, but a young Oskar Groening, a former SS sergeant who became known as the “Accountant of Auschwitz.,” according to information provided to The Associated Press by the Memorial and Museum Auschwitz-Birkenau in Poland.

Soros, who was just 9-years-old when Hitler’s army invaded Poland, was not a member of the Nazi party, despite what the photo said. Soros, who is Jewish and Hungarian, was 15 during the Nazi occupation of Hungary. He would have been too young to join the Hitler Youth, an organization that recruited and trained 16- and 17-year-old boys to fight.

According to false information with the photo, Soros was an SS in the National Socialist German workers party and served under Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler.
Photo depicting George Soros as Nazi soldier untrue

Those guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

 

[Yehren]

Rational. Alright. Then let's do this: Tell me what you believe about the Devil still holding the kingdoms of this earth in his hand, and being able to give them to whomever would serve him?

"God is still sovereign. But it does mean that God, in His infinite wisdom, has allowed Satan to operate in this world within the boundaries God has set for him. When the Bible says Satan has power over the world, we must remember that God has given him domain over unbelievers only."

So for you, maybe. For most people here, not at all.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Skepticism. When your guys claim Soros was a member of the SS, they show complete ignorance. You realize how old he was when the Nazis were rounding up Jews?



CLAIM: Democratic philanthropist George Soros was a Nazi soldier

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. A photo said to be George Soros as a Nazi soldier is actually a photo of Oskar Groening, a former SS sergeant at Auschwitz Birkenau, the Nazi German concentration and extermination camp, operated from 1940-1945 in Poland.

THE FACTS: A photo circulating widely on Facebook is not Soros, but a young Oskar Groening, a former SS sergeant who became known as the “Accountant of Auschwitz.,” according to information provided to The Associated Press by the Memorial and Museum Auschwitz-Birkenau in Poland.

Soros, who was just 9-years-old when Hitler’s army invaded Poland, was not a member of the Nazi party, despite what the photo said. Soros, who is Jewish and Hungarian, was 15 during the Nazi occupation of Hungary. He would have been too young to join the Hitler Youth, an organization that recruited and trained 16- and 17-year-old boys to fight.

According to false information with the photo, Soros was an SS in the National Socialist German workers party and served under Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler.
Photo depicting George Soros as Nazi soldier untrue

Those guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Well I appreciate you sharing that, but with all I've got going on I didn't even bother to read it. My point is that it is a TRUE boogeyman argument, and not worth even giving two thoughts about.

"God is still sovereign. But it does mean that God, in His infinite wisdom, has allowed Satan to operate in this world within the boundaries God has set for him. When the Bible says Satan has power over the world, we must remember that God has given him domain over unbelievers only."

In what way exactly does Satan hold the kingdoms of this world in his hand such that he can offer them to Christ?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The idea that it's wrong for police to go after black citizens just for being black, is what makes BLM go. And it's why BLM is supported by a majority of Americans.
How Public Opinion Has Moved on Black Lives Matter

Racists are cross-eyed with fury over it, but it won't matter.



You think Americans are fools? That explains a lot.



That's how racists roll. It's why Americans reject racism and support BLM.

1 that's just pathetic to even think the police do such.

2 Germany was the best educated nation people on earth but Hitler still lead them astray with nonsense.

3 I would say that people who truly have handle on the racial problems are not blind at all nor is such anything to do with hatred, it's prejudice that has to do with being stupid and uneducated on such a subject.

I could wright a book on the problems of white Australians and not even going outside that subject of that.

Then I could wright a book on the Aboriginals just on that topic of their problems on it's own not even going outside of such as that issue in it's self.

Then I could wright a book on the so called first nations peoples claims and not even going outside of such as that issue in it's self.

There is issues with everything if one bothers but you know what the main issue is, each mob has to recognise and deal with their own issues first and not go about laying the blame on others like a dumb ignorant schmuck.
I can point out that we once had big problems with Asian gangs selling drugs, they were introduced into Australia we took them in from war torn and most were ok but their was huge cultural differences, now all would of went ok but for the bad side of such a culture, now that issue was never dealt with and it was let to fester by our government, who was only hell bent on trying to dismiss the problem, it was like they were aiding and abetting the drug culture. fact is if people came up to me and trying to sell me their drugs at the train station say and I just did my civil duty as a Man who has due care for his Nations people, I would punch the living daylights out of all that I came across directly, not to mention I would demand that such Vampires be kicked out of my State for a start. now if more people were up standing and dealt with vermin like that directly such degenerates would not of got a foot in the door.
The message is that such people have to have pull their socks up and keep their nose clean. no one admires grubs. but you know what it is that's the real problem, it's our governments who have aided and abetted such dregs too run loose, bastardise our children help to brake family's apart, bastardise Marriage and make killing innocent baby's something they claim is their pride to do. the Devil is in the detail bro. people have to wake up to the reality of the Satanist intentions.
It's the self serving dingbats that think it everyone else who is the problem.

 

[Yehren]

1 that's just pathetic to even think the police do such.

It's realistic. Sometimes,they are stupid enough to text each other about it.

Grand Chute police investigating officer for racist tweets, post mentioning Boogaloo movement; protests planned for Sunday
Tweets pictured in screenshots shared on Facebook date back to 2012, 2013 and 2014 and use racial slurs, homophobic language and mention murder. They were posted by La Luzerne under the Twitter account @whosbryce. The account no longer exists.
Grand Chute police officer Bryce La Luzerne under investigation

National City police officer suspended for alleged racist comments
Dykes said the tipping point happened when Matthews allegedly texted his daughter and ex-wife an insensitive meme of George Floyd.
"He is a police officer and thinks what happens is ok or what happened is a joke," said Dykes.
National City police officer suspended for alleged racist comments

TAMPA, Fla. — The University of South Florida Police Department is investigating one of its own officers for "disturbing language" used on a Twitter account bearing the officer's name.

The Twitter bio for @presleyyg reads "KKK member." The name listed on that account as the users real name is Presley Garcia.

In 2018, USF Police welcomed a new officer with that same name.
With that information, the department launched a preliminary investigation into the Twitter account. The officer was placed on administrative leave.
USF Police Investigating Officer for Racist Reference in Twitter Profile

Three Cops Have Been Fired After Their Racist Rants About Black People Were Caught On Tape
Three North Carolina Police Officers Fired Over Racist Rants About Black People

A Milwaukee police officer who was one of the men on the scene of Milwaukee Bucks star Sterling Brown's arrest in January has been fired for sending text messages about the incident deemed to be racist.

Milwaukee's police chief told CNN on Friday that Erik Andrade, the fired officer, was one of eight who responded to the incident involving Brown earlier this year. Brown is suing the city and the police force over his arrest, during which he was tased by officers, for an alleged parking violation.

"They have a racist connotation and are derogatory, mocking an individual who was recently the subject of officers' use of force," police chief Alfonso Morales told CNN of the tweets.

"Such comments also directly affect his credibility and ability to testify in future hearings as a member of this department. I have not, and will not, tolerate such behavior," Morales added.

In one of the messages, which was posted to Facebook, Andrade appears to wish for the opportunity to be involved in the arrest and possible use of force against another player, Cleveland Cavaliers' star J.R. Smith.

"I hope JR Smith double parks in Walgreens handicap parking spots when he's in Milwaukee," Andrade posted, according to CNN.
Milwaukee police officer fired for ‘racist connotation’ of tweets about Sterling Brown

Police posted thousands of offensive memes on Facebook. Now some of them are being fired.
Philadelphia is firing 13 officers for racist Facebook posts. Other departments could soon follow.
Police posted thousands of offensive memes on Facebook. Now some of them are being fired.

There's a lot more of this, if you want to see more. And remember, this only covers the cops who were stupid enough to admit it on social media. Fortunately, racists aren't usually very smart. Want to see some more?

1 that's just pathetic to even think the police do such.

It is pathetic. But it's an ongoing problem. Tip of the iceberg.

 

[Candidus]

The idea that it's wrong for police to go after black citizens just for being black, is what makes BLM go. And it's why BLM is supported by a majority of Americans.
How Public Opinion Has Moved on Black Lives Matter

Racists are cross-eyed with fury over it, but it won't matter.

Some time ago, a friend emailed me about a white shooter in a large city. An unarmed (black) security officer tackled him, saving who knows how many lives. He was still trying to get the gun away from the perp when the police arrived. They killed the security officer.

I responded "If I was black, I'd probably be angry all the time." He cited Baldwin's comment that to be an aware black man in America meant one is in a constant state of rage.

And then I thought to myself; "why the (bleep) am I not angry?" My friend (and former colleague and neighbor) is black. His son used to watch my place and water the gardens for me when I was out of town. He has to worry about his boys and explain to them how they can do everything right, and still have some racist cop kill them for nothing, and tell them what they must do as a black male in America to reduce that very real possibility.

These are my friends and neighbors and fellow Americans at risk for no reason other than the color of their skin. Yes, I'm angry. And we need to put an end to it. Millions of others like me, that's why America supports BLM.

BLM is the Klan with a Tan. If you support BLM, you are a Racist.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

You were easily duped because you read what some people wrote about the Founders. I'm showing you what the Founders themselves said.

I wasn't quoting Mickey Mouse. I quoted some of our Founders promoting Christianity.

The men who wrote the Constitution disagree with you.

Most of the men who wrote the Constitution were openly Christian.

All you need is one that shows the founders opposed to the wall of separation between church and state in the First Amendment.

The "wall of separation" is not in the Constitution. You will not find these words there. As Reagan said, and I quoted him above, the First Amendment was created to save religion from the tyranny of government, not vice versa. This amendment guarantees freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

Instead of reading your revisionist tracts, read what the Founders actually said.

I quoted our Founders. Please start reading my posts!

 

[Candidus]

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[Yehren]

I wasn't quoting Mickey Mouse. I quoted some of our Founders promoting Christianity.

What you didn't quote is any of them supporting the idea of a nation based on any religion whatever.
All you need is one that shows the founders opposed to the wall of separation between church and state in the First Amendment.

The "wall of separation" is not in the Constitution.

But it is the intent of the men who wrote the First Amendment, as I showed you. Would you like me to show you what Madison said about it?
Instead of reading your revisionist tracts, read what the Founders actually said.

I quoted our Founders.

Not one of those supported the idea of establishing the United States as a Christian nation. As you now realize, the Founders specifically rejected that idea. You clearly just copied those edited quotes from who know where. Next time, try reading what the Founders actually said about it.

"Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history."
James Madison, Detached Memoranda

 

[Yehren]

BLM is the Klan with a Tan. If you support BLM, you are a Racist.

Nice try. When you run out of facts, the worst thing you can do to your argument, is to start tossing out unsupported assertions. It reeks of desperation.

 

[Candidus]

Nice try. When you run out of facts, the worst thing you can do to your argument, is to start tossing out unsupported assertions. It reeks of desperation.

The Klan was known for murder and burning crosses... but not Looting. The went around in intimidating mobs.

Nice try, but I am not willfully blind that I cannot see the obvious connection to tactics, and comparison to their Racism and Hate. Desperation is denying the facts.

 

[Yehren]

The Klan was known for murder and burning crosses... but not Looting. The went around in intimidating mobs.

So white nationalists differ from the Klan mainly in that they engage in looting. Interesting.

White Extremists Terrorize and Loot: 18 Videos of Destruction Black People Will Be Blamed For

Demonstrations have been infiltrated by white extremists bent on destroying property, vandalizing businesses, torching police cars and leaving the blame with the Black community.
White Extremists Terrorize and Loot: 18 Videos of Destruction Black People Will Be Blamed For

Murder is still on their agenda, though:

Far-right “Boogaloo boy” killed officer after using Black Lives Matter protest as cover: prosecutors
“Boogaloo boy” killed officer, used BLM protest as cover: prosecutors

The went around in intimidating mobs.

That's still on their agenda too, but they aren't so intimidating, any more:

(personally, I think it's the Tiki torches, but the wimpy builds of these guys probably doesn't help much, either.)

I am not willfully blind that I cannot see the obvious connection to tactics, and comparison to their Racism and Hate. Desperation is denying the facts.

I think you only need to look at those guys and see that much. These aren't society's winners, are they? For every Jewish, black, or Hispanic person (maybe even female) who gets an education and a good job, they realize that the world changing in ways that terrify and depress them.

And it's tormenting them. That's why they loot and kill, and riot.

 

[Candidus]

Far-right “Boogaloo boy” killed officer after using Black Lives Matter protest as cover: prosecutors
“Boogaloo boy” killed officer, used BLM protest as cover: prosecutors

There is no such thing as a "Boogaloo Boy" except in the mind of racist Leftists!

The ENTIRE "evidence" of this accusation" the guy said "let's boogie!"

Wow! Amazing! Such sleuthing Sherlock! A common term that I heard all my life since the mid-1970's is now "proof" that something called "Boogaloo" exists!

I wonder if the FBI is so sharp enough to know that saying "Black Lives Matter" is a sign and a call to "Burn, Loot, and Murder"! I proved it!

 

[Brakelite]

That's the disturbing thing about reality. It's remarkably resistant to disbelief.

Jesus said the greatest danger in these last days was deception. Reality isn't always aligned with belief. @bbyrd009 said here recently, don't always believe what you think.

Or more likely, because the BLM statement of purpose has no Marxist ideology in it. One of those things.

The leaders admit to being Marxist. And gay. And anti family.

Or more likely, because the BLM statement of purpose has no Marxist ideology in it. One of those things.

Mmm. "Mission statement" has become quite a thing they last few decades huh. That word mission, from the Latin , missio, coined in the 15th century by the Jesuits whose stated purpose in their mission statement was to destroy Protestantism wherever they could find it. I believe there is a prominent statue of Loyola with his foot on the head of Luther in the Vatican. But not all mission statements are so bold so as to declare openly their true purpose. I'm a bit of a cynic I'm that way. I don't believe everything I read.

Biden's career has been a process of finding common ground among opposed groups. He's precisely the leader Americans are looking for.

No. They are looking for a leader other than Trump because the narrative of the media demands it. It's got nothing to do with that old man with dementia pretending to be cognizant.

Trump tried. But he failed. The Constitution won and he lost. His attempt to dismantle the Bill of Rights failed.

I don't know what Trump's agenda was. To me he's an enigma. But I'm fairly apolitical in most respects except when I witness prophecy bring fulfilled. And I believe that what we are witnessing is the amalgamating of church and state in American politics. That is something I vehemently object to and believe it will be the ruin of American society.

Nor were the Protestant inquistions, both of which simply attacked Christians of other denomnations.

Protestant did indeed persecute others. No argument. But we don't need to add the emotional epithet inquisition. They didn't have inquisitions. At least not in the scale that lead to genocidal crusades against entire Nations.

 

[Yehren]

The leaders admit to being Marxist. And gay. And anti family.

Let's test your belief. What in their statement of purpose is Marxist? Or anti-family? Or gay, for that matter. You do realize that accepting people who are gay, or don't have traditional families, is not being anti-straight, or anti-traditional family, right?

This kind of harkens back the arguments of segregationists who argued that giving rights to black people, would be taking rights away from white people. I'm sure you didn't realize how this looks for you, but it's not good.

Mmm. "Mission statement" has become quite a thing they last few decades huh. That word mission, from the Latin , missio, coined in the 15th century by the Jesuits whose stated purpose in their mission statement was to destroy Protestantism wherever they could find it.

Hmm... in the military every unit with which I had a connection, had a mission. And every major corporation with which I worked or consulted for, had a mission. Either the meaning of the word has changed in the last 500 years, or the Jesuits have taken over the U.S. military and America's corporate boardrooms. One of those.

But not all mission statements are so bold so as to declare openly their true purpose.

How handy for personal re-interpretations.

 

[Candidus]

Let's test your belief. What in their statement of purpose is Marxist? Or anti-family? Or gay, for that matter. You do realize that accepting people who are gay, or don't have traditional families, is not being anti-straight, or anti-traditional family, right?

No, but one thing I do know is that God says that such are worthy of death and will not inherit the Kingdom of God! Anything that opposes God and what He says cannot be good for society. Mixing manure with pure honey and eating it may hide the taste, but the result is the same.