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We should NEVER take other peoples thoughts and opinions as our own, this is why the word says to study to show yourself approved by God. YOU seek, YOU knock, and YOU will find.
Oh for sure, that is why I attempt to find the truth through logic and reason, rather than trusting the words of a 2000+ year old book. (Sasha;59363)
If you don't believe Gods word, then you certainly will not believe anything I have to say. But, you asked for examples, so, here are a couple.
I believe the words of others and of books when they are logically coherent and reasonable to believe. When their argumentation does not use circular logic or run them into contradictions, then I have no trouble believing it
At any rate, thank you for your stories. They are very interesting. So I will now give my response to them - I'd appreciate you answering the questions. I ask them not to question the truth of your stories, but rather as a way to determine whether the best explanation for them is a supernatural one. I'm sure you see the importance of determining what is truly supernatural and what is just natural.(Sasha;59363)
We then COMMANDED the hail to stop and the winds to die. IMMEDIATELY the hail stopped, and the wind calmed down. No, it did not stop blowing completely, but, seeing the result of God responding to our faith, made our faith grow even more. We also bound satan from damaging our property. We did all this in the name of JESUS CHRIST.
Well, okay, let's see here. As for binding up Satan from damaging your property, I don't know whether that can be proven either way. The fact that you had no damage doesn't necessarily mean that he otherwise would have damaged things. But at any rate, let's deal with the storm thing. I have two questions in regard to this:1. You mentioned that the hail stopped, but that the wind didn't completely stop. I assume that means that the storm was still
there, just that it stopped hailing. In other words, the dark clouds were likely still around, etc. Does this mean that there were separate demons controlling each part - like a hail demon, a wind demon, and a dark cloud demon, etc.? So you only stopped one, but not the other?2. Perhaps more importantly, I would like to ask how many times you have prayed in this way for other storms, and the storms have
not stopped? Or not immediately? Have you prayed over a storm, and then ten minutes later, it stops, or an hour later it stops? The reason I ask this is that, for any event, as you increase the number of trials, it becomes more likely that it will happen for one of those trials. To give you an example, if I want to roll a six, and I roll the die once, I have a 1 in 6 chance of rolling it. But if I roll it ten times, it's much more likely that I will roll a six on one of those times. A hundred times, and it becomes more likely still. So if you pray for each storm to stop, and then on one of those occasions, it stops
immediately as you say, then how do you account for the other times? I would be more likely to chalk up this particular experience to coincidence.(Sasha;59363)
Once again my husband and I started praying in the spirit and COMMANDE the tornado to dissipate. We reminded satan of who we are in Christ, and no weapon formed against us shall proper, no harm shall come near us. We bound satan from operating against us. Whatever we bind on earth will be bound in heaven. Once again we did this in the name of Jesus.
Tornados are, by nature, unpredictable. They often change course, or they will dissipate only to return somewhere else. If, by commanding the tornado to dissipate, it also completely stopped the entire storm, then that would be impressive. This, I fear, is nothing more than a fortunate circumstance. It is good to hear that you and your house did not suffer damage. But to return to the more basic question, why did God let this tornado occur in the first place?(Sasha;59363)
GOD OPERATES THROUGH US, IF WE LET HIM.
Your verses don't mean that much to me. It is one thing to "prove" through the Bible that God works through us. It's another thing to actually demonstrate it. But in these demonstrations, it is important to make sure to separate it from natural explanations, coincidences, and other possibilities.(Jordan;59413)
The main person? Satan, that Devil wants us dead. And it is also on free will... a person's choice... like Cain for example, he give all of his life dedicated to Satan.
Alright, so you say that it is Satan's fault that we don't properly understand Scripture. I assume he does this through deception. But then, how does the blame also lie on our free will? If we are deceived, then we do not choose based on reality. For example, if you go into a used car dealership, and the salesman tells you about a car, but knowingly deceives you by not mentioning certain things that are wrong with the car, then if you purchase the car, how was that your fault? You were operating based on his guidance, and he led you astray. Therefore, you were choosing based on the information you had at the time, although that information was incorrect. The fault is not yours, it is the salesman's. So if Satan has sold us a rotten bill of goods, then he should be the one punished, not us.