DOES NO ONE WANT TO BE CORRECTED?

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ScottA

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Almost. The seed was planted, i then went aside and studied, and 9 years later still learning. Have not yet been convinced that my change in thinking is heretical. And yes, it's a major doctrine that I once accepted, and now reject, for several reasons. Not this forum however. Believer it or not. Facebook lol.
If you have questioned what was foretold to be polluted by "destructive doctrines" taught by "false teachers"--you are doing better than many.
 

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Good question, Isaiah. To whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? How would we know?
 
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Those who are born again by the Spirit, who love the Lord Jesus Christ and endeavor to live a life that is pleasing to Father God, rarely need correction from another "brother". The Holy Spirit is quite able to correct, comfort and restore without any help from us, and in His perfect timing will do so.

There are times when God will choose to use one of us to do this work. Sadly, there are many more times when someone chooses to take that work upon themselves, often doing more harm than good, making fools of themselves in the process.

Dear Father, please make me a servant and not a judge.

"Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye."

That's all good--thank you!

However, to refocus, the need is rather to expect correction...as we have been warned and have been witnesses to destructive doctrines handed down now for centuries.

As for the Holy Spirit being quite able to correct--this is of course true. However, it is written that "God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie..." And this, until the times are fulfilled.
 

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Where do you hide your tickets about yourself so that I can take one as well.

You have been stating that God is done with the Israelites, whereas I have been stating that in around twenty years' time from now, God will begin drawing the nation of the Israelites to Himself.

When and if God begins gathering the Israelites to Himself, where they will be living scattered throughout the earth, the readers will know which of us has been speaking the truth.

I am happy to be judged at that time when God begins to act to gather the Israelites to Himself.

If biblical evidence can be provided simply, that I am in error, then I am willing to change my understanding about what the scriptures clearly state.
God will begin . Did you say will begin .
AND BY WHAT MESSAGE do you suppose HE will draw them .
The only way TO GOD IS THE SON . paul knew that , ITS WHY HE PREACHED the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON HIM
to the jew and gentile . The truth is , TIMES RUNNING OUT FOR ALL MEN . jew and gentile .
ALL , ALL who failed to recieve JESUS THE CHRIST will WAIL SO LOUD on the day of the LORD .
WE BETTER stop waiting and start rather preaching the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE TO THE JEW and GENTILE .
JUST sum real friendly but dire necessary words to CHEW ON friend .
 
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DOES NO ONE WANT TO BE CORRECTED?​


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There's a reason prophets get stoned.
see that photo . thats gonna be christendom and the merged false love intefaith religons STONING lambs like me
who refused to bend the knee to their god satan who they all thought was GOD . BUT WAS NOT .
As far as stoned . Most are already stoned by the pipe of the WHORES green tabacco she calls the love pipe .
 
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God will begin. Did you say will begin.
AND BY WHAT MESSAGE do you suppose HE will draw them.
The only way TO GOD IS THE SON. Paul knew that IT IS WHY HE PREACHED the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON HIM
to the Jew and gentile. The truth is, TIMES RUNNING OUT FOR ALL MEN. jew and gentile.
ALL, ALL who failed to receive JESUS THE CHRIST will WAIL SO LOUD on the day of the LORD.
WE BETTER stop waiting and start rather preaching the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE TO THE JEW and GENTILE .

Is there any difference in your post's message, quoted, to the message and context that I have posted?

Is not the foundation stone of our understanding based on the statement that, "That you, Christ, are the Son of God."

Will this foundation stone not become the largest mountain/religion in all of the earth, and will it not dwarf all of the present mountain hills which the people of the earth go up upon to worship their gods?

Is this not what the scriptures tells us?

Will this not happen "quickly" when it does?
 

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Where do you hide your tickets about yourself so that I can take one as well.

You have been stating that God is done with the Israelites, whereas I have been stating that in around twenty years' time from now, God will begin drawing the nation of the Israelites to Himself.

When and if God begins gathering the Israelites to Himself, where they will be living scattered throughout the earth, the readers will know which of us has been speaking the truth.

I am happy to be judged at that time when God begins to act to gather the Israelites to Himself.

If biblical evidence can be provided simply, that I am in error, then I am willing to change my understanding about what the scriptures clearly state.
What you are missing...is Christ was First (firstfruits) to trample/tread Israel "underfoot" (Matthew 5:13, Revelation 11:2)...because they were "finished." Thus, during that time they became those "who have fallen asleep" (1 Corinthians 23:6), "the dead in Christ" (1 Thessalonians 4:16).
 

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Apparently not. Things are looking a whole lot like the time of Jesus' first coming, when the Priests, Leaders, and Pharisees thought they were beyond reproach. And when Jesus went about correcting them, the established leaders rejected Him.

Then came the times of the church and of "the spirit of anti-Christ already at work" during those early days when Jesus had "somewhat against" 5 out of the 7 churches mentioned in Revelation; Peter foretold of "false teachers" bringing "destructive doctrines" into the church; and Paul foretold the believing of a "lie" causing "strong delusion" and great apostacy. And yet few if any seem to have taken it to heart--that corrections would need to come, or the church would be found apostate.

And worse, most seem determined to defend those foretold realities of false doctrines on a grand scale, to the death.

It is absolutely crazy that there is such a disregard for the warnings--when they too are written and true!
Chastisement is correction/discipleship But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” hebrews 12:8 if a person is a Christian the have the spirit of truth in them...correction is is the spirit of truth
 

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Chastisement is correction/discipleship But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” hebrews 12:8 if a person is a Christian the have the spirit of truth in them...correction is is the spirit of truth
Yes, and yet "all truth" and the revealing of the complete "mystery of God as He declared to His servants the prophets" was not to come until just before "the time of the end" after the "falling away" and believing of a "lie" causing "strong delusion." In which case corrections should as much as be expected to come on an equally grand scale and more.

Which does not mean that all who have received the Holy Spirit do not have corrections from God (as you have indicated), but does mean the timing of God's greater correction and revelation--is upon us.
 

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What you are missing...is Christ was First (firstfruits) to trample/tread Israel "underfoot" (Matthew 5:13, Revelation 11:2)...

Matt 5:13: - 13 "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavour, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men.
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Rev 11:1-3: - The Two Witnesses

11 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
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because they were "finished." Thus, during that time they became those "who have fallen asleep" (1 Corinthians 23:6),

1 Corinthians 15:6: - 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep.
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1 Corinthians 15:18: - 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
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1 Corinthians 15:20: - 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
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"the dead in Christ" (1 Thessalonians 4:16).

1 Thess 4:13-18: - The Comfort of Christ's Coming
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.​
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.​
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ScottA, let us let the context of the scriptures you referenced speak for themselves.
 
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Which does not mean that all who have received the Holy Spirit do not have corrections from God (as you have indicated),
i hate to disagree with you but when we get saved the Holy Ghost spirit comes and dwells in us

Romans 8:9​


“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. its not as i indicated but what the word of God says . a carnal mind is enmity to God

Romans 8:7​


“Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.”
 

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Matt 5:13: - 13 "You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavour, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men.
NKJV

Rev 11:1-3: - The Two Witnesses

11 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, "Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
NKJV



1 Corinthians 15:6: - 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep.
NKJV
1 Corinthians 15:18: - 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.
NKJV
1 Corinthians 15:20: - 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
NKJV



1 Thess 4:13-18: - The Comfort of Christ's Coming
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.​
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.​

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ScottA, let us let the context of the scriptures you referenced speak for themselves.
They do, though they have not yet been fully understood by many.
 

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i hate to disagree with you but when we get saved the Holy Ghost spirit comes and dwells in us

Romans 8:9​


“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. its not as i indicated but what the word of God says . a carnal mind is enmity to God

Romans 8:7​


“Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.”
Even so, revelations from God only come in the fulness of time.