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David is the forerunner of Jesus and he had many wivesJacob had two wives.
How many wives does JESUS have?
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David is the forerunner of Jesus and he had many wivesJacob had two wives.
How many wives does JESUS have?
Again, rev 14 makes your assumption impossible. Your doctrine is so poorly thought out, that it has the read in Christ raised AFTER the gathering of the living in rev 14NOPE
The Bride of Christ/His Church does not get raptured until His Coming and ONLY AFTER the Resurrection.
Gospel, 1 Thess ch4, 2 Thess ch2, 1 John ch2 & ch3, Rev ch6 & ch19, Daniel ch9 & ch12 ALL AGREE
There are no pre-trib rapture declarations or prophecies in the Holy Scriptures.
If there were, yourself, others and myself would of posted them.
Post # pleasejust omit the pretrib rapture verses that I posted.
It is JESUS declaring them.
None of them REMOTELY agrees with your rapture assumptions.
That is why you never get specific.
Just one broad generality after another.
There was something special about the Church of Philadelphia for sure, and it wasn't because the members were simply "watching".I suspect so. At least half of the Church does not believe Jesus comes in an hour they think not. The foolish virgins are not ready when the Messiah comes as they are not watching for Him, they are watching for the Antichrist.
I suspect so. At least half of the Church does not believe Jesus comes in an hour they think not. The foolish virgins are not ready when the Messiah comes as they are not watching for Him, they are watching for the Antichrist.
Yes
On the white horses.
With the saints.
The Rapture is pretrib as Jesus depicted.
Omissions are your friend to your assumptions.
True eschatology is scripture interpreting scripture.
You will always be at a loss and never reconcile the pretrib rapture verses BY JESUS, while clinging to omissions.
But it is your paradise.
The tribulation is over at the 6th seal coming of Jesus, so yes Revelation 19 is not only post trib but it is at the end of wrath.Rev ch19 is Post-Trib
1 Thessalonians 3:13
Now may our God and Father Himself, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct our way to you. 12And may the Lord make you increase and abound in love to one another and to all, just as we do to you, 13so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.
The Seals are a 'show casing' and gives us a view of what will take place.The tribulation is over at the 6th seal coming of Jesus, so yes Revelation 19 is not only post trib but it is at the end of wrath.
So practice being Lot's wife and come out of Sodom at the last second and get turned into a pillar of salt....NOTICE = Rev ch18 is the LAST CALL to the Saints to flee before Judgment, AFTER ch 18 is the LORD'S Return.
The Seals are a 'show casing' and gives us a view of what will take place.
YES, the 6th Seal declares the Second Coming as does other parts of Revelation as well.
The Final 'revealing' of the LORD'S Second Coming is ch19
There are some really great inventors on here of late.Right. The 6th seal is like popping in a DVD showing the second coming happening and watching it. It isn't actually happening right then, it's just a video playback of the future event. Thinking it happens then makes someone invent multiple comings when there is one, and has the second coming out of proper chronological order.
Yes; and we can see from Revelation 12 what happens to each half:Jesus depicted the rapture gathering as roughly half the church. Half stays behind and refuses the mark, and are martyred.
Another load of nonsense!Right. The 6th seal is like popping in a DVD showing the second coming happening and watching it. It isn't actually happening right then, it's just a video playback of the future event. Thinking it happens then makes someone invent multiple comings when there is one, and has the second coming out of proper chronological order.
There are some really great inventors on here of late.
This is true.David is the forerunner of Jesus and he had many wives
Another load of nonsense!
I regard this theory as playing fast and loose with what the Bible plainly says.Nope. The seals are visions of the future shown to John. They weren't events happening when the seals were opened. All the seals were also opened by Christ after he first acsended which is why at first he wasn't found and why he is described as a slain Lamb...because he had died as that symbolic Lamb not long before the opening of all the seals.
The 6th seal does DESCRIBE a world wide disaster but it does not take place until the 7th trump.
The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus for a harvest. The tribulation is over at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Then there is a great multitude in heaven BEFORE the wrath of God.The Seals are a 'show casing' and gives us a view of what will take place.
The 6th seal is the second coming when Jesus remains in the clouds. We see that in Revelation 14. We also see it is BEFORE wrath. This makes you belief TOTALLY AND COMPLETE IMPOSSIBLE.YES, the 6th Seal declares the Second Coming as does other parts of Revelation as well.
Jesus is revealed at the second coming. All eyes will see the coming of the Lord at the 6th seal. There is a great multitude in heaven as the wrath of God begins when the trumpets are blown.The Final 'revealing' of the LORD'S Second Coming is ch19
And yet you are unable to understand that Revelation 18 occurs before the 5th seal. Not much chance you will understand that, though the Word is clear.NOTICE = Rev ch18 is the LAST CALL to the Saints to flee before Judgment, AFTER ch18 is the LORD'S Return.
What happens at the Seventh Trumpet, Revelation 11:15-19, is a reference back to the terrible Day of the Lords wrath, not when it happens.
Fact.I regard this theory as playing fast and loose with what the Bible plainly says.
As Jesus removes each Seal, what is described for each one, then takes place.
If the seals are open.........it just happened.He removed the first Five Seals when He ascended to heaven, Revelation 5:7
The 7 seals are the 70th week of Daniel. The seals will be opened when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in at the SECRET, PRETRIBULATION RAPTURE............TO HEAVEN.Proved by the wars, famines plagues and economic disasters the world has experienced since then.
The 5th seal is the great tribulation.Confirmed by the Fifth Seal martyrs, from Stephen and still being added to today.
Revelation 14:14-16 is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal, BEFORE wrath. As we see in Rev 14:19 wrath has not begun.What happens at the Seventh Trumpet, Revelation 11:15-19, is a reference back to the terrible Day of the Lords wrath, not when it happens.
Also referred to in Revelation 14:14-20
Yes. the 1000 year day of the Lord.There will be only one Day when the Lord will change the world, affecting everyone.
Goes without saying.The GT events are directed against those who take the mark of the 'beast'.
If wrath begins at the 7th trumpet, how come Christ has set up His kingdom on earth at the 7th trumpet.That's backwards. The 6th seal is a description of that day, but does not happen then.
The 7th trump is when that day of wrath begins, not a reference back to it happening earlier.