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('four horns' in the Bible) are as follows:

Hidden Dynasty of antichrist #1: Education/Media (greatly composed of media outlets):

"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have." -- Richard Salant, ex-President, CBS News.
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years...It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -- David Rockefeller, Internationalist billionaire, Humanist, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) kingpin, founder of the Trilateralist Commission, World Order Godfather voicing his praise of the controlled U.S. media for keeping their oath not to divulge the Globalist plans to the public at a meeting, June 1991, in Baden Baden, Germany, of yet one more infamous World Order group, the Bilderbergers.

"We know in the not too distant future, a half dozen corporations are going to control the media. We took this step (merger) to ensure we were one of them" --Time Warner spokesperson.

"A very powerful complex of foundations and allied organizations has developed over the years to exercise a high degree of control over education. Part of this complex, and ultimately responsible for it, are the Rockefeller and Carnegie groups of foundations." --Rene Wormser, Counsel for the Reece Committee (Congressman Carroll Reese) on the 1950's investigations to uncover the Rockefeller’s (and other’s) foundations activities.

"We are going to impose our agenda on the coverage by dealing with issues and subjects that we choose to deal with." -- Richard Cohan, Sr. Producer, CBS political news


Dan 1:3-5
3 And the king spake unto Ashpenaz the master of his eunuchs, that he should bring certain of the children of Israel, and of the king's seed, and of the princes;
4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
5 And the king appointed them a daily provision of the king's meat, and of the wine which he drank: so nourishing them three years, that at the end thereof they might stand before the king.
(KJV)



Hidden Dynasty of antichrist #2: Politics

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." -- Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
"...The age of nations must end...The governments of the nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they surrender their arms." -- United Nation's World Constitution.

"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation." -- John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York 1918 - 1925.

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans." -- Bill Clinton USA Today - Mar 3, 1993, page 2a.

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, then it will lose it's freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort and security that it values, it will lose that too. Unknown Americans must decide: Are we to be governed by Americans or by an International organization? I, for one, owe no allegiance to the United Nations nor will I give it any. I obey only the U.S. Constitution. You had better think about this issue, for if the U.N. can violate the Sovereignty of Haiti, Iraq and other countries, it can violate ours...The United States may not be the top dog 15 years from now. U.N. security council resolutions, backed by say Chinese soldiers, could be aimed at us." -- Charley Reese Orlando Sentinel


Rev 17:12-18
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the wh*re sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh*re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (KJV)



Hidden Dynasty of antichrist #3: Finance

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce." -- James A. Garfield, U.S. President.

"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Facism, Marxism, Zionism and Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of World Government..." -- American Mercury Magazine, December 1957, pg. 92.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." -- Mater Amschell Bauer, the Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel of Europe. (The U.S. Congress gave him and fellow international Bankers complete control of the U.S. monetary system through passage of the Federal Reserve Act, the Income Tax Act, and the 17th Amendment in 1913). They also control the World Bank and the I.M.F.

"We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the FED. They are not government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers..." -- Lewis McFaddin, U.S. Congressman on the International Financiers when they were taking over the monetary control of America.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." -- Henry Ford, Founder of Ford Motor Company, commented on the privately owned "Federal" Reserve System.

"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election... It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!" -- George W. Mallone, U.S. Senator (Nevada) in a Congressional address in 1957 alluding to the families that secretly own the "Federal" Reserve Bank and control the finances of the U.S.

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt, U.S. President, in a letter written November 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House.


Dan 8:23-26
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. (KJV)



Hidden Dynasty of antichrist #4: Religion

"Fundamental, Bible believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in." -- Peter Hoagland, Nebraska State Senator and Humanist, speaking on radio in 1983 with the great American Pastor and Patriot Everett Sileven.
[Perhaps the Senator should go back and reread the Constitution that he swore to uphold: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" -- The First Amendment of the United States Constitution.]

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." -- David Spangler, Director of PLANETARY INITIATIVE, (a United Nations World Government Group).

"The document [recent Vatican document that reasserted the primacy of the Roman Catholic Church] shows that other Christian churches contain "precious elements of salvation" and that "salvation is not denied to non-Christians," the pope said in his regular Sunday address." -- Pope John Paul II : Other Faiths Not Denied Salvation Washington post Oct 2, 2000 pg. A18. [In other words, anything goes]

"Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God...God begets gods...[therefore] You are all little gods." -- Kenneth Copeland, television minister; from The Agony of Deceit pg.100. [This is heavy New-Age doctrine, in which man can aspire to such a level of enlightenment that he becomes even as God Himself. Dangerous stuff!]

"Rothschild [Satanist, Illuminati, billionaire, world banking cartel] has kissed the hand of the Pope...Order has at last been re-established." -- Wilson, Derek. Rothschild The Wealth and Power of a Dynasty, p. 101.

"It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure." -- The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 2, p.497.


Rev 13:11-18
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (KJV)


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('four horns' in the Bible) are as follows: ...


To All,

I presume that this Post is in reference to the Daniel Chapter 8 "four horns". And where this individual goes to great lengths to associate four various concepts of ~control~ to these Four Horns, this 8th Chapter has nothing to do with such imaginations.

For example: Where is the significance of the First Horn? Thus aren't there actually FIVE horns? And when considering that according to Daniel 7, aren't there ten "little horns", plus an eleventh "little horn"? So doesn't that total to 16?

And do these horns follow the sequence of "toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land"? Did the Catholic church really start out in north-west Europe?

I've said it before and will say it again, -- people imagine all sorts of shapes including a ~monkey in the mountain, a ~human face on mars, an ~elephant in the clouds, etc., etc. However Scripture is sufficiently complete to provide the TRUTH of a prophecy. -- It's only the dreamers who pick an aspect out of Chapter context and paint illusions.



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Oh, does that mean all his quotes are fake too??? No, I don't think so.

Obviously, some here are 'PLANTS' (like Biblescribe possibly), to throw out a baloney sandwich upon anything revealing the grand conspiracy written in God's Word. May God have mercy on them when Christ comes, or better yet; may He recompense what mercy they gave upon the innocents back upon theirselves.
 

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Obviously, some here are 'PLANTS' ... to throw out a baloney sandwich upon anything revealing the grand conspiracy written in God's Word. ...


An interesting statement from someone who has been repeatedly challenged to assess Scriptural specifics:


Ref:

"How Close Is the Seven Year Tribulation", pg. 4, Post #92,
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/14089-how-close-is-the-seven-year-tribulation/page__st__90
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"Exactly one year from today ...", pg. 3, Post #67
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/13755-exactly-one-year-from-today-11-april-the-great-tribulation-begins/page__st__60


1. Per Walvoord: "...Montgomery, for all of his scholarship and knowledge of the history of interpretation, ends up with no reasonable interpretation at all., P.218

2. Per Walvoord: "...as Young points out, the word ‘sevens’ is in the masculine plural instead of the usual feminine plural. No clear explanation is given except that Young feels ‘it was for the deliberate purpose of calling attention to the fact that the word “sevens” is employed in an unusual sense.’", P.217

3. Per Walvoord: "...Young finally concludes after some discussion that Keit and Kliefoth are correct when they hold that the word ‘sevens’ does not necessarily mean year-weeks, but an intentionally indefinite designation of a period of time measured by the number seven, which chronological duration must be determined on other grounds., P.218

4. Per Montgomery: "... efforts to obtain an exact chronology fitting into the history of Salvation, after these 2,000 years of infinitely varied interpretations, would seem to preclude any use of the 70 Weeks for the determination of a definite prophetic chronology.", P. 217

5. Per Walvoord: "Some amillenarians, however, use a literal year time unit for the first sixty-nine weeks but an indefinite period for the last seven years, as in the case of Philip Mauro...", P. 218

6. Per Montgomery: "... the great Catholic chronographers ... as well as those of all subsequent chronographers (including the great Scalinger and Sir Isaac Newton) have failed.. And Edward Young too, finds no satisfactory conclusion for the seventy sevens ... and leaves it without a satisfactory explanation.", P. 217

7. Per Young, regarding "the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem": "This phrase has reference to the issuance of the word, not from a Persian ruler but from God." , P. 224 -

John Wolvoord, "Daniel, The Key to Prophetic Revelation", Moody Press, Chicago, 1971


8. Per Newton: "We avoid also the doing violence to the language of Daniel, by taking the seven weeks and sixty two weeks for one number. Had that been Daniel’s meaning, he would have said sixty and nine weeks, and not seven weeks and sixty two weeks, a way of numbring used by no nation."

Isaac Newton, "Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John (1733)", http://www.isaacnewton.ca/daniel_apocalypse/pt1ch10.html


... and ...



As provided in the Topic "How Close Is The Seven Year Tribulation", pg. 5, Post #139,
http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/14089-how-close-is-the-seven-year-tribulation/page__st__120


1. Daniel 9:2 specifies "years". -- This is a clue.

2. Daniel 9:2 does not use the simple shama to perceive the prophecy of Jeremiah as though reading that book, but rather the Soloman biyn to perceive the prophecy in the BOOKS.-- This is another clue.

3. Daniel 9:25 "going forth of the word" does NOT have the inference of any edict from man, but rather and edict directly from GOD. -- This is another clue.

4. The Daniel 9:25 seven is one duration with an anointed one "coming" after that duration. -- And another clue.

5. The Daniel 9:25 - 26 sixty-two weeks is a second duration with a second anointed one who is cut off after that duration. -- Still another clue.

6. The "weeks"/"week" are the inconcise Masculine gender text, which are specifically NOT 490 years. -- And yet another clues.

7. The second anointed one who is cut off is not killed upon the sixty-two, but simply AFTER. -- The clues keep on coming.

8. The destroyer does not come at the beginning, middle, or upon the end of the seventieth shabuwa, but "shall come" after the seventieth shabuwa. -- You can't handle these clues.
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9. The seven, the sixty-two, the seventieth, and after the seventieth are chronologically connected, with NO ~2,000 year gaps. -- And still more clues.

10. This prophecy is shut up and sealed until the time of the end, which is approximate to 1948. -- The final clue which I've identified.




But I can certainly understand why you refuse to assess the TRUTH in Scripture, and instead default to your lore and myth. :)


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To All,

I presume that this Post is in reference to the Daniel Chapter 8 "four horns". And where this individual goes to great lengths to associate four various concepts of ~control~ to these Four Horns, this 8th Chapter has nothing to do with such imaginations.

For example: Where is the significance of the First Horn? Thus aren't there actually FIVE horns? And when considering that according to Daniel 7, aren't there ten "little horns", plus an eleventh "little horn"? So doesn't that total to 16?

And do these horns follow the sequence of "toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land"? Did the Catholic church really start out in north-west Europe?

I've said it before and will say it again, -- people imagine all sorts of shapes including a ~monkey in the mountain, a ~human face on mars, an ~elephant in the clouds, etc., etc. However Scripture is sufficiently complete to provide the TRUTH of a prophecy. -- It's only the dreamers who pick an aspect out of Chapter context and paint illusions.



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To All,

Are there no "minds" to consider what this 8th Chapter of Daniel TRULY says? Should we shed light on those TRUTHS, or are we to stumble about in blindness, each man attesting that this elephant is like a wall, a tree, a snake, a rope, or a fan?


It's not a simple chapter to digest. In fact, I would propose it's the most difficult of the Chapters to understand. But it's certainly within the grasp of humanity, -- otherwise GOD would not have wasted HIS Words and our time. :)



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('four horns' in the Bible) are as follows:

Hidden Dynasty of antichrist #1: Education/Media (greatly composed of media outlets):

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In posting this I am assuming you aren't afraid of the title "conspiracy theorists" being given you? :lol:

Good. :D This is a TERRIFIC post and everyone should pay attention.



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Okay,let's reason....Do you understand the coming one world system?


Rather than starting mid way up the extrapolation, how about if we start at the foundation? Specifically, you've identified "four horns", which I presume is a reference to Daniel 8. Is this correct?



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Daniel 8:8, 8:22
[sup]8[/sup] Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.

[sup]22[/sup] As for the broken horn and the four that stood up in its place, four kingdoms shall arise out of that nation, but not with its power.
 

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To All,

Many self professed experts would deceive you as to any merit of Scripture. These are as cited in 2 Timothy 3, and you would be the one cited in verse 7:

2 Timothy 3:1-9
[sup]7[/sup] always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth


I would adjure you to avoid such nonsensical teachings, and find the TRUTH.

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In posting this I am assuming you aren't afraid of the title "conspiracy theorists" being given you? :lol:

Good. :D This is a TERRIFIC post and everyone should pay attention.



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You know,it's certain things in the word that many people are not meant to understand,and it's for their own good.....No I don't mind not one bit,so I will just say it like this........Every conspiracy,aint a theory.......I don't know it all,nor do I claim to but once I really understood the beginning,every thing fell into place.....Thanks for your kind words...Ps,when I say beginning,I mean before the garden,before we were made flesh.....

What most people don't understand is that,had satan not rebelled,we never would have been made flesh......
 

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To All,

Many self professed experts would deceive you as to any merit of Scripture. These are as cited in 2 Timothy 3, and you would be the one cited in verse 7:

2 Timothy 3:1-9
[sup]7[/sup] always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth


I would adjure you to avoid such nonsensical teachings, and find the TRUTH.

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Still waiting for someone to debunk those quotes...


... I'm also waiting. I challenged some guy name "veteran" to step through each of the scriptural evidences in Daniel 9. But I guess he's so used to eating baloney sandwiches, he wouldn't know real meat if it landed in his lap.


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... I'm also waiting. I challenged some guy name "veteran" to step through each of the scriptural evidences in Daniel 9. But I guess he's so used to eating baloney sandwiches, he wouldn't know real meat if it landed in his lap.


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I learned not to waste my time with someone that the only Bible Scripture they 'think' they know is Daniel 9.
 

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Ummmm, which one are you, the one with his eyes covered, or the one his ears covered, -- I presume it's not your mouth that you cover.


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To All,

For your information, the referenced issues are as follows:


1. Daniel 9:2 specifies "years".

2. Daniel 9:2 does not use the simple shama to perceive the prophecy of Jeremiah as though reading that book, but rather the Soloman biyn to perceive the prophecy in the BOOKS.

3. Daniel 9:25 "going forth of the word" does NOT have the inference of any edict from man, but rather and edict directly from GOD.

4. The Daniel 9:25 seven is one duration with an anointed one "coming" after that duration.

5. The Daniel 9:25-26 sixty-two weeks is a second duration with a second anointed one who is cut off after that duration.

6. The "weeks"/"week" are the inconcise Masculine gender text, which are specifically NOT 490 years.

7. The second anointed one who is cut off is not killed upon the sixty-two, but simply AFTER.

8. The destroyer does not come at the beginning, middle, or upon the end of the seventieth shabuwa, but "shall come" after the seventieth shabuwa.

9. The seven, the sixty-two, the seventieth, and after the seventieth are chronologically connected, with NO ~2,000 year gaps.

10. This prophecy is shut up and sealed until the time of the end, which is approximate to 1948.




Toward this, I have offered multiple times to address the veracity of the literal text to determine if it supports an ancient fulfillment. Thus far, all offers have been declined by "veteran".


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You know,it's certain things in the word that many people are not meant to understand,and it's for their own good.....No I don't mind not one bit,so I will just say it like this........Every conspiracy,aint a theory.......I don't know it all,nor do I claim to but once I really understood the beginning,every thing fell into place.....Thanks for your kind words...Ps,when I say beginning,I mean before the garden,before we were made flesh.....

What most people don't understand is that,had satan not rebelled,we never would have been made flesh......



Yes, learning of these basic facts caused the scales to fall from my eyes. It all came together. Odd so so many rebel against this knowledge. And, PS....I know what you mean by the beginning....the real beginning.



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