I will continue to defend my family and country if called on to do so, you may run or hide if that is what you are accustom to doing.
Including dropping bombs on babies, Christians, cripples, elderly, etc?
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I will continue to defend my family and country if called on to do so, you may run or hide if that is what you are accustom to doing.
Including dropping bombs on babies, Christians, cripples, elderly, etc?
No one ever said war was pleasant. Sometimes the enemy hides with the innocent.
Jesus told them to get swords to fulfill the prophecy.
Luke 22:36-38 (NASB)
[sup]36 [/sup]And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one. [sup]37 [/sup]"For I tell you that this which is written must be fulfilled in Me, 'AND HE WAS NUMBERED WITH TRANSGRESSORS'; for that which refers to Me has its fulfillment." [sup]38 [/sup]They said, "Lord, look, here are two swords." And He said to them, "It is enough."
Isaiah 53:12 (NASB)
[sup]12 [/sup]Because He poured out Himself to death, And was numbered with the transgressors; Yet He Himself bore the sin of many, And interceded for the transgressors.
Jesus certainly isn't going to tell them to kill their enemies with swords after He said, Matthew 5:39 (NASB)
[sup]39 [/sup]"But I say to you, do not resist an evil person;"
I didn't say that.You said that you would defend your wife.
I didn't say that.
No problem.HA! I thought I was talking to the same person. Wow...nvm
So you're telling me that if you walked into your house and saw a man raping your wife you wouldn't do everything in your power to stop that man even if it meant he would die?
Matthew 5:39 (NASB)where does it say that a husband cannot defend his wife when she is under attack?
one comment before i exit this discussion.
I've had more than one gun aimed at me and mine. God is faithful. He doesn't need guns or bombs to protect his own. Many have died armed with weapons of men. Faith in God is MUCH more powerful.What I mean Duckybill is we can all say we would this or that along with our flavor of scripture. But until your right there you really don't know. I know this to be true in less dynamic conditions as compared to killing. I would be very intersesed in hearing from a Vet that's truly born again, one that was drafted. Rather than listen to people who have never been at that cross road.
Just wanted so say welcome, IMO you have a very level head about defining scripture. I knew better than to get involved in this topic.
Just the same welcome and I hope you stick around.
Matthew 5:39 (NASB)
[sup]39 [/sup]"But I say to you, do not resist an evil person;
Many have died armed with weapons of men
http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Revelation 12.11http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Revelation 12.11
I just missed Vietnam, have never killed anyone. And until Im right there right when I need to make that choice I realy don't know how I'll respond. My first instinct will be LORD
It's not out of context. It is perfectly clear. Context is a common excuse for unbelief.taking a verse outof context and applying it to your personal beliefs doesn't mean you cannot defend your wife. especially when 1 cor. 13:7 says that love...'always protects...'
Yes, God's Word the NT is consistent. And no Christian in the NT killed anyone for any reason. Many of them died though.so be careful how you use scripture because God's word does NOt over-rule itself but works together with each other verse to provide a consistant and true message for the followers of God to follow.
God is faithful to we who believe His promises. We don't need to kill others. That is Satan's way. Christians are merciful.yet the verses do not say if those people were armed with weapons of men or that you would not be. please stop placing your personal beliefs within the passages of scripture. that is called eisegesis and it is very wrong.
I'm nobody. But Jesus doesn't give Christians permission to kill others. If you have NT proof then present it. You don't. You can find excuses to kill if you want to, but it won't fly on Judgment Day.again, this verse does not prove your position and who are you to say if Jesus grants permission for other believers to be armed or not. peter was armed and Jesus said nothing about it till he used it wrongly. so be careful when you apply scripture to your pet theologies.
I've had more than one gun aimed at me and mine. God is faithful. He doesn't need guns or bombs to protect his own. Many have died armed with weapons of men. Faith in God is MUCH more powerful.
Psalm 91:7 (NASB)
[sup]7 [/sup]A thousand may fall at your side And ten thousand at your right hand, But it shall not approach you.
[sup]10 [/sup]No evil will befall you, Nor will any plague come near your tent. [sup]11 [/sup]For He will give His angels charge concerning you, To guard you in all your ways.
God protected us as He promised.So have I but you have never killed anyone, never been in the wife being raped situation.
There are no excuses for Christians killing anyone. None. The Apostles were murdered. NT Christians were murdered. None fought back.Or any other scenario such as being draft where you needed to make a choice regarding life or death. When someone assaults you at gun point or a knife your not in the drivers seat.
I don't own a gun.Even if you have a gun as well.
It is so sad to see how Satan has deceived professing Christians into being afraid to trust in the living God of the Bible.Walking in on a your child or wife in a life threatening assault is different plane and simple. Being drafted in war is different still. The fact is unless you've been there your talking out your u no what.
Guess you missed some of my posts. I have been there. And God showed up like He said He would. Now whom is presuming? God has saved my life so many time's I've lost count. He doesn't need me to kill others like Satan does.You know what Duckybill I haven't even said one way or the other. I've simply said your talking about how you would respond in a situation you have never been in before.
Now I find that said, that people here presume to know something about the most life changing circumstance a man could go threw with out ever having been there. It nothing but foolish talk.