Let’s Do a “ Dangerous” Experiment— BB plays “ God”......

[justbyfaith]

Chapter and verse please.

John 5:24 (kjv).

 

[HisLife]

So, closure for eternal security vs conditional security is
"OSAS is the most accurate doctrine, FTW!...?"

[rhetorical] Why didn't I think of that...?

[/rhetorical]

If you gonna keep pushing the point Mcfly You can't pretend you don't want to talk about it, So....Batter up

John 14:16 would you agree Is talking about the Holy Spirit

 

[Sabertooth]

If you gonna keep pushing the point Mcfly You can't pretend you don't want to talk about it, So....Batter up

(That was me deferring the point. No one has anything to ADD to that debate, except to repeat it. Maybe if they were to repeat it LOUDER this time...?

)

 

[HisLife]

(That was me deferring the point. No one has anything to ADD to that debate, except to repeat it. Maybe if they repeat it LOUDER this time...?

)

Come on.....The video did give me a laugh when I woke up this morning, So you not gonna answer a little Question? Looks like admitting defeat

 

[Sabertooth]

So you not gonna answer a little Question?

A LITTLE question, he says...

 

[justbyfaith]

So, closure for eternal security vs conditional security is
"OSAS is the most accurate doctrine, FTW!...?"

[rhetorical] Why didn't I think of that...?

[/rhetorical]

The security is both conditional and eternal.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Titus 3:5.....” God Saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of His Mercy....
Acts15:11....” we believe that we are all saved in the same manner—- the undeserved Grace Of The Lord Jesus.....”
ROM 11 :6 “ if it is by Grace, it is no longer on the basis of Works, otherwise Grace is no longer Grace ..”
Eph2:8-9 “ God Saved you by His Grace when you Believed....you get no credit for this ....it is a Gift from God. Salvation is Not a reward for the good things that we have done, therefore , no one can boast about it....”

I’m telling you people—- sometimes it’s like shooting a Fish in a Barrel .....It really “ IS” just like the Song says when it comes to our Salvation......” Nothing But The Blood”
Please tear it out of your hymnal if you are going to be a Liar and a hypocrite about it— singing a song you don’t really believe in “ The House Of God”..... God don’t like it.

1 John 3:10
Anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God

1 John 3:6
6No one who remains in Him keeps on sinning.

1 John 3:8
8The one who practices sin is of the devil

2 Corinthians 5:17
if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.

The person who is still living for their sin is not converted. They don't have 'nothing but the blood'. They have NOTHING. Remaining the old creation you've always been is the sign that you are not a new creation. Sinking in yet?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Please tear it out of your hymnal if you are going to be a Liar and a hypocrite about it— singing a song you don’t really believe in “ The House Of God”..... God don’t like it.

The liar and the hypocrite is the one who says he has been made a new creation by nothing but the blood but who isn't a new creation and continues in the same life he's always had, his mind still steadfastly set on the things of the flesh. Paul said that person does not have the Spirit of God—Romans 8:9. You're putting up this brave defense for being saved and living in sin ignoring the fact that living in sin is the sign that a person is not saved. They have no circumcision of the deeds of the flesh by the Spirit of God. They do not have 'nothing but the blood'. They have NOTHING.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

You seem to think that I am saying that they can “ Sin and get away with it”

Yes you are saying that. You say a saved person can purposely and defiantly sin and it means nothing in regard to being saved because salvation is not by works. I'm telling you what the Bible says. The person who sins defiantly is rejecting the blood of Christ. There is no sacrifice to cover the sin of rejecting the sacrifice of Christ. They can't be saved by the blood of Christ they do not believe in. Their willful, defiant behavior shows they do not believe in it. You've invented a make believe person—a believer who isn't a new creation in Christ. And you've done that to rationalize people being able to remain in their old lives of sin if they want to and being saved at the same time. Ignoring the fact that John said if they really were saved they wouldn't be remaining in their old lives of sin—1 John 3:9.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Willfully sinning is the sign of the unbeliever.



Sorry, no cigar.....” Willful Sinning” is a sign of a Willful Sinner. Nothing more. Nothing less. Like you. Like me. If you have a Thinking Cap, please put it On and attempt to do some deeper thinking—- almost EVERY sin you commit is a “ willful” one.....
You are either a bit “ dim” or you are too lazy to STUDY God's Word .....your misunderstanding of Hebrews 10 has corrupted your entire understanding of the Ways Of God.....go to Andrew Farley or Les Feldick and get your thinking straightened out....a ten year old can understand what the “ Willful Sin” in Hebrews 10 is referring to.....unless one is severely “ stiff-necked”......

I think you're the one being stiff necked. I explained to you that defiantly sinning is rejecting the blood of the Covenant. I don't defiantly sin. Do you? You're in a bad place if you are. If so, it shows you don't believe in nothing but the blood. You just think you do. If you did you would be a new person defiantly resisting sin, not defiantly resisting righteousness. That doesn't mean you'd be entirely successful at it. It means your mind would now be set on the things of the Spirit instead of on the things of the flesh. Unbelievers who don't have the Spirit are the ones who have their minds set on the things of the flesh. That's how you can tell the difference between the believer and the unbeliever. Believers are in a struggle with sin while unbelievers are in a struggle with righteousness. Defiantly sinning hardly represents a struggle with sin. Defiant sinners are unbelievers living outside of the grace of God.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Chapter and verse please.

John 5:24
“Most assuredly, I say to you , he who hears My Word and Believes In Him who sent Me HAS everlasting life, and shall NOT come into Judgement , but has passed from death into life.”

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Amidst all of the Ruckus brought about by my little “ Pretend” Scenario, I guess it’s time to reveal the Point I was trying to make.....
That “ Pretend” World I conjured up? It was never Pretend .....( except, of course that part where BB was acting the part of God ) Please go back and read it again.....it’s the World in which we live, in this Wondrous Age Of Grace.....

 

[kcnalp]

John 5:24 (kjv).

That's not what he "quoted". He said:
“ All Of Those That Trust In Me ALREADY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE and shall NEVER come under Condemnation”

John 5:24 (KJV)
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

 

[kcnalp]

John 5:24
“Most assuredly, I say to you , he who hears My Word and Believes In Him who sent Me HAS everlasting life, and shall NOT come into Judgement , but has passed from death into life.”

You changed it.
"All Of Those That Trust In Me ALREADY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE and shall NEVER come under Condemnation”

 

[Ferris Bueller]

“ Fallen From Grace” means you think that although Jesus is ” Neccessary” for your Salvation......He is just not “Sufficient “ for Salvation—— there is something that “ YOU” must add.....essentially robbing Jesus of the TOTAL Glory due to Him, you gotta be “Co- Savior” in effect....

But thankfully in your wonderful world of grace it doesn't matter. You're saved whether you add to it or not. You've been blowing a lot of hot cyber air for nothing.

there is something that “ YOU” must add.....essentially robbing Jesus of the TOTAL Glory due to Him, you gotta be “Co- Savior” in effect....

You don't add the new creation to salvation. It comes with it. That means if you don't have the new creation you don't have salvation. Is it kind of sinking in now? Even just a little?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I used to be Legalist.....now I am a man who is “ Free in Christ”.... a man who knower TRUE Joy and Peace—- ALL of the time ....it is Wondrous ! I want others to have this “ Abundant Life” That has been Promised to Believers.

You used to be a legalist but now you're a defiant sinner (by your own confession)? How is that the abundant life of joy and peace promised by Jesus? Isn't it rather that life and peace belong to the person who obeys God?

By the way, how do you know someone is being a legalist? By them obeying God while you, by your own admission, sin defiantly?

 

[justbyfaith]

If you did you would be a new person defiantly resisting sin, not defiantly resisting righteousness. That doesn't mean you'd be entirely successful at it.

You might be successful at it...

 

[ChristisGod]

That's not what he "quoted". He said:
“ All Of Those That Trust In Me ALREADY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE and shall NEVER come under Condemnation”

John 5:24 (KJV)
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Amen !

Salvation is of the Lord period. He saves us and keeps us saved.

James 1:18
He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.

John 1:13
children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

1 Peter 1:3
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Titus 3:5-8
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Colossians 2:13
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ.

Philippians 1:6
And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue his work until it is finally finished on the day when Christ Jesus returns

1 Corinthians 1:8
He will sustain you to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 1:29
"For to you it has been granted for Christ’s sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake."

2 Timothy 1:9
who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,

1 Peter 1:3
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead."

God saves us, keeps us saved and it is a gift from Him even granting us the faith which saves.

As Paul says: what do you have that you did not receive ?

Its all by His Mercy and Grace.

I would hate to be the person who stands before God and thinks he had something to do with his own salvation. The Glory is all Gods in Salvation.

hope this helps !!!

 

[justbyfaith]

He keeps us walking in His goodness (see Romans 11:20-22) so that we are not cut off from the olive tree that is His church (those who place their trust wholly in Jesus and what He did for them for their salvation).

 

[friend of]

Colossians 2:13
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ

I think this verse is very important. It says that while we were dead in sin, God made us alive. God didn't wait for us to become "better " or more righteous on our own. No, He saved us in spite of ourselves and our sinful nature. If sinning after salvation would result in us becoming unsaved, why would God even bother with us in the first place, knowing our sinful proclivities?