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The context of Revelation 1:10 shows that “the Lord’s day” is not a particular day of the week. Since it was “by inspiration” that John came to be “in the Lord’s day,” that doesn't mean some particular day of the week. It would not have been necessary for John to have been inspired to come to a specific day of the week. Therefore, “the Lord’s day” is that future time during which events that John saw in vision would occur. This included such things as the war in heaven and Satan cast out, the destruction of Babylon the Great and the kings of the earth and their armies, Satan being bound and abyssed, the resurrection of the dead, and Christ’s Thousand Year Reign.

The context points to Jesus Christ as the Lord whose “day” it is. Immediately after coming to be “in the Lord’s day,” John didn't hear the voice of Almighty God, but that of the resurrected Son of God. (Re 1:10-18) Also, the ‘day of the Lord’ mentioned at 1 Corinthians 1:8; 5:5; and 2 Corinthians 1:14 is that of Jesus Christ.

At Revelation 1:10, John says: “By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day.” This verse is an important key to unlocking the understanding of Revelation. It indicates that it applies primarily to “the Lord’s day,” which began when Jesus began ruling as king in 1914. This understanding is confirmed by Jesus’ messages to the seven congregations. In them we find expressions such as these words to Pergamum: “I am coming to you quickly.” (Revelation 2:16; 3:3, 11) After 96 C.E., Jesus did not ‘come’ in any significant way until he was enthroned as King in 1914. (Acts 1:9-11)

While in exile on the island of Patmos, the aged apostle John is favored with prophetic visions. He beholds thrilling events as “by inspiration” he comes to be in “the Lord’s day.” That day begins with the enthronement of Jesus Christ in 1914 and runs clear down to the end of his Thousand Year Reign. Revelation 1:10

The apostle Paul refers to it as a time of judgment and of fulfillment of divine promises. (1 Corinthians 1:8; 2 Corinthians 1:14; Philippians 1:6, 10; 2:16) With the arrival of that “day,” Jehovah’s grand purposes move progressively toward their climax. That “day” begins with Jesus ruling as heavenly King. Even after Jesus executes judgment on Satan’s world, the Lord’s day continues, with the restoration of Paradise and the perfecting of mankind, until Jesus finally “hands over the kingdom to his God and Father.” 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Revelation 6:1, 2.

The fulfillment of other Bible prophecies helps us to see when the Lord’s day begins. For example, Daniel described a chopping down of rulership in the line of King David; after “seven times” it would be known “that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that to the one whom he wants to he gives it.” (Daniel 4:23, 24, 31, 32) The major fulfillment of that prophecy started with the desolating of the kingdom of Judah, which is indicated by Bible evidence to have been completed by October 607 B.C.E. Revelation 12:6, 14 shows that 3 1/2 times amounts to 1,260 days; hence, seven times (twice that number) is 2,520 days. Reckoning “a day for a year,” we arrive at 2,520 years as the duration of the “seven times.” (Ezekiel 4:6) Therefore, Christ Jesus began his heavenly rule in the latter part of 1914. The erupting of the first world war in that year marked “a beginning of pangs of distress” that have continued to plague mankind. Since 1914, how remarkably events in this bloodstained earth have confirmed that year to be the start of the “day” of Jesus’ presence! Matthew 24:3-14

Revelation 1:10 says: "By Inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day.” His words help us to locate the time of the fulfillment of the magnificent visions that he goes on to describe.

Not all, agree with this rendering of Revelation 1:10. For example, the German Bible translator Jörg Zink renders it: “I was filled with holy spirit, it was on Sunday.” Most Bible versions, however, translate the Greek phrase teiʹ ky·ri·a·keiʹ he·meʹrai as “the Lord’s day.” But in a footnote many claim that it refers to Sunday.

The German Herders Bibelkommentar, a Catholic reference work, explains the reasoning behind this thinking when it says: “Reference is made here at Revelation 1:10 not to the Day of Final Judgment, which is likewise known as the ‘Day of the Lord’, but to a specific day of the week. The early Christians began celebrating the first day of the week as the day of their main church services as early as the middle of the first century. (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2)” However, the two scriptures cited by that reference work in no way prove that first-century Christians viewed the first day of the week as “the day of their main church services.”

The first text, Acts 20:7, merely records that Paul, his traveling companions, and Christians from Troas gathered together on the first day of the week for a meal. Since Paul was going to leave the next day and he would not see them again for some time, he took advantage of the occasion to speak to them at length.

The second text, 1 Corinthians 16:2, encouraged the Christians at Corinth to set aside money “every first day of the week” in order to have something to contribute to those in need in Judea. Scholar Adolf Deissmann suggests that this day may have been a payday. At any rate, Paul’s suggestion was practical, since money could run out during the week.

Nowhere in the Bible is it said that Christians in the apostolic era viewed the first day of the week, now called Sunday, as a kind of Christian sabbath, a day set aside exclusively for their regular meetings for worship. It was only after the death of the apostles that Sunday came to be viewed in this way and came to be called “the Lord’s day.” This was part of the apostasy foretold by Jesus and the apostles themselves. Matthew 13:36-43; Acts 20:29, 30; 1 John 2:18.

What, then, is “the Lord’s day”? As said earlier the context of Revelation 1:10 points to Jesus as the Lord whose day it is. God’s Word identifies expressions such as “the day of our Lord Jesus Christ” with a time of judgment for mankind and the restoration of Paradise. 1 Corinthians 1:8; 15:24-26; Philippians 1:6, 10; 2:16.

Hence, Hans Bruns, in his translation with commentary, Das Neue Testament (The New Testament), is correct when he says: “Some maintain that he [John] is speaking here of Sunday, but it is far more likely that he is referring to the illustrious Day of the Lord, which is after all what all of his subsequent description pertains to.” W. E. Vine says: “‘The Day of the Lord’ . . . is the Day of His manifested judgment on the world.” Fritz Rienecker’s Lexikon zur Bibel (Lexicon of the Bible) says that “the Lord’s day” clearly refers to “judgment day.”

The right understanding of the expression “the Lord’s day” helps us to understand the whole book of Revelation. Moreover, the evidence is that day has already begun. How important it is, then, that we ‘hear the words of the prophecy of Revelation and observe the things written in it’! Revelation 1:3, 19.

There will always be those that will disagree. Individuals must choose what they believe the truth is.
 

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The context of Revelation 1:10 shows that “the Lord’s day” is not a particular day of the week. Since it was “by inspiration” that John came to be “in the Lord’s day,” that doesn't mean some particular day of the week. It would not have been necessary for John to have been inspired to come to a specific day of the week. Therefore, “the Lord’s day” is that future time during which events that John saw in vision would occur. This included such things as the war in heaven and Satan cast out, the destruction of Babylon the Great and the kings of the earth and their armies, Satan being bound and abyssed, the resurrection of the dead, and Christ’s Thousand Year Reign.

The context points to Jesus Christ as the Lord whose “day” it is. Immediately after coming to be “in the Lord’s day,” John didn't hear the voice of Almighty God, but that of the resurrected Son of God. (Re 1:10-18) Also, the ‘day of the Lord’ mentioned at 1 Corinthians 1:8; 5:5; and 2 Corinthians 1:14 is that of Jesus Christ.

At Revelation 1:10, John says: “By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day.” This verse is an important key to unlocking the understanding of Revelation. It indicates that it applies primarily to “the Lord’s day,” which began when Jesus began ruling as king in 1914. This understanding is confirmed by Jesus’ messages to the seven congregations. In them we find expressions such as these words to Pergamum: “I am coming to you quickly.” (Revelation 2:16; 3:3, 11) After 96 C.E., Jesus did not ‘come’ in any significant way until he was enthroned as King in 1914. (Acts 1:9-11)

While in exile on the island of Patmos, the aged apostle John is favored with prophetic visions. He beholds thrilling events as “by inspiration” he comes to be in “the Lord’s day.” That day begins with the enthronement of Jesus Christ in 1914 and runs clear down to the end of his Thousand Year Reign. Revelation 1:10

The apostle Paul refers to it as a time of judgment and of fulfillment of divine promises. (1 Corinthians 1:8; 2 Corinthians 1:14; Philippians 1:6, 10; 2:16) With the arrival of that “day,” Jehovah’s grand purposes move progressively toward their climax. That “day” begins with Jesus ruling as heavenly King. Even after Jesus executes judgment on Satan’s world, the Lord’s day continues, with the restoration of Paradise and the perfecting of mankind, until Jesus finally “hands over the kingdom to his God and Father.” 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Revelation 6:1, 2.

The fulfillment of other Bible prophecies helps us to see when the Lord’s day begins. For example, Daniel described a chopping down of rulership in the line of King David; after “seven times” it would be known “that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that to the one whom he wants to he gives it.” (Daniel 4:23, 24, 31, 32) The major fulfillment of that prophecy started with the desolating of the kingdom of Judah, which is indicated by Bible evidence to have been completed by October 607 B.C.E. Revelation 12:6, 14 shows that 3 1/2 times amounts to 1,260 days; hence, seven times (twice that number) is 2,520 days. Reckoning “a day for a year,” we arrive at 2,520 years as the duration of the “seven times.” (Ezekiel 4:6) Therefore, Christ Jesus began his heavenly rule in the latter part of 1914. The erupting of the first world war in that year marked “a beginning of pangs of distress” that have continued to plague mankind. Since 1914, how remarkably events in this bloodstained earth have confirmed that year to be the start of the “day” of Jesus’ presence! Matthew 24:3-14

Revelation 1:10 says: "By Inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day.” His words help us to locate the time of the fulfillment of the magnificent visions that he goes on to describe.

Not all, agree with this rendering of Revelation 1:10. For example, the German Bible translator Jörg Zink renders it: “I was filled with holy spirit, it was on Sunday.” Most Bible versions, however, translate the Greek phrase teiʹ ky·ri·a·keiʹ he·meʹrai as “the Lord’s day.” But in a footnote many claim that it refers to Sunday.

The German Herders Bibelkommentar, a Catholic reference work, explains the reasoning behind this thinking when it says: “Reference is made here at Revelation 1:10 not to the Day of Final Judgment, which is likewise known as the ‘Day of the Lord’, but to a specific day of the week. The early Christians began celebrating the first day of the week as the day of their main church services as early as the middle of the first century. (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2)” However, the two scriptures cited by that reference work in no way prove that first-century Christians viewed the first day of the week as “the day of their main church services.”

The first text, Acts 20:7, merely records that Paul, his traveling companions, and Christians from Troas gathered together on the first day of the week for a meal. Since Paul was going to leave the next day and he would not see them again for some time, he took advantage of the occasion to speak to them at length.

The second text, 1 Corinthians 16:2, encouraged the Christians at Corinth to set aside money “every first day of the week” in order to have something to contribute to those in need in Judea. Scholar Adolf Deissmann suggests that this day may have been a payday. At any rate, Paul’s suggestion was practical, since money could run out during the week.

Nowhere in the Bible is it said that Christians in the apostolic era viewed the first day of the week, now called Sunday, as a kind of Christian sabbath, a day set aside exclusively for their regular meetings for worship. It was only after the death of the apostles that Sunday came to be viewed in this way and came to be called “the Lord’s day.” This was part of the apostasy foretold by Jesus and the apostles themselves. Matthew 13:36-43; Acts 20:29, 30; 1 John 2:18.

What, then, is “the Lord’s day”? As said earlier the context of Revelation 1:10 points to Jesus as the Lord whose day it is. God’s Word identifies expressions such as “the day of our Lord Jesus Christ” with a time of judgment for mankind and the restoration of Paradise. 1 Corinthians 1:8; 15:24-26; Philippians 1:6, 10; 2:16.

Hence, Hans Bruns, in his translation with commentary, Das Neue Testament (The New Testament), is correct when he says: “Some maintain that he [John] is speaking here of Sunday, but it is far more likely that he is referring to the illustrious Day of the Lord, which is after all what all of his subsequent description pertains to.” W. E. Vine says: “‘The Day of the Lord’ . . . is the Day of His manifested judgment on the world.” Fritz Rienecker’s Lexikon zur Bibel (Lexicon of the Bible) says that “the Lord’s day” clearly refers to “judgment day.”

The right understanding of the expression “the Lord’s day” helps us to understand the whole book of Revelation. Moreover, the evidence is that day has already begun. How important it is, then, that we ‘hear the words of the prophecy of Revelation and observe the things written in it’! Revelation 1:3, 19.

There will always be those that will disagree. Individuals must choose what they believe the truth is.
You do yourself and your denomination a disservice by this muddled and misinformed point of view.
 
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You do yourself and your denomination a disservice by this muddled and misinformed point of view.

Like I said there are going to be those who disagree. I certainly don't agree with what a lot of people have to say about what exactly "The Lord's Day" is.

By the way, Jehovah's Witnesses are not a denomination of Christendom.
 
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Like I said there are going to be those who disagree. I certainly don't agree with what a lot of people have to say about what exactly "The Lord's Day" is.

By the way, Jehovah's Witnesses are not a denomination of Christendom.
how do you see yourselves?
 
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What happened in 1914 that they think Jesus came then? I’m old but not quite that old.
 
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The context of Revelation 1:10 shows that “the Lord’s day” is not a particular day of the week. Since it was “by inspiration” that John came to be “in the Lord’s day,” that doesn't mean some particular day of the week. It would not have been necessary for John to have been inspired to come to a specific day of the week. Therefore, “the Lord’s day” is that future time during which events that John saw in vision would occur. This included such things as the war in heaven and Satan cast out, the destruction of Babylon the Great and the kings of the earth and their armies, Satan being bound and abyssed, the resurrection of the dead, and Christ’s Thousand Year Reign.

The context points to Jesus Christ as the Lord whose “day” it is. Immediately after coming to be “in the Lord’s day,” John didn't hear the voice of Almighty God, but that of the resurrected Son of God. (Re 1:10-18) Also, the ‘day of the Lord’ mentioned at 1 Corinthians 1:8; 5:5; and 2 Corinthians 1:14 is that of Jesus Christ.

At Revelation 1:10, John says: “By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day.” This verse is an important key to unlocking the understanding of Revelation. It indicates that it applies primarily to “the Lord’s day,” which began when Jesus began ruling as king in 1914. This understanding is confirmed by Jesus’ messages to the seven congregations. In them we find expressions such as these words to Pergamum: “I am coming to you quickly.” (Revelation 2:16; 3:3, 11) After 96 C.E., Jesus did not ‘come’ in any significant way until he was enthroned as King in 1914. (Acts 1:9-11)

While in exile on the island of Patmos, the aged apostle John is favored with prophetic visions. He beholds thrilling events as “by inspiration” he comes to be in “the Lord’s day.” That day begins with the enthronement of Jesus Christ in 1914 and runs clear down to the end of his Thousand Year Reign. Revelation 1:10

The apostle Paul refers to it as a time of judgment and of fulfillment of divine promises. (1 Corinthians 1:8; 2 Corinthians 1:14; Philippians 1:6, 10; 2:16) With the arrival of that “day,” Jehovah’s grand purposes move progressively toward their climax. That “day” begins with Jesus ruling as heavenly King. Even after Jesus executes judgment on Satan’s world, the Lord’s day continues, with the restoration of Paradise and the perfecting of mankind, until Jesus finally “hands over the kingdom to his God and Father.” 1 Corinthians 15:24-26; Revelation 6:1, 2.

The fulfillment of other Bible prophecies helps us to see when the Lord’s day begins. For example, Daniel described a chopping down of rulership in the line of King David; after “seven times” it would be known “that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind, and that to the one whom he wants to he gives it.” (Daniel 4:23, 24, 31, 32) The major fulfillment of that prophecy started with the desolating of the kingdom of Judah, which is indicated by Bible evidence to have been completed by October 607 B.C.E. Revelation 12:6, 14 shows that 3 1/2 times amounts to 1,260 days; hence, seven times (twice that number) is 2,520 days. Reckoning “a day for a year,” we arrive at 2,520 years as the duration of the “seven times.” (Ezekiel 4:6) Therefore, Christ Jesus began his heavenly rule in the latter part of 1914. The erupting of the first world war in that year marked “a beginning of pangs of distress” that have continued to plague mankind. Since 1914, how remarkably events in this bloodstained earth have confirmed that year to be the start of the “day” of Jesus’ presence! Matthew 24:3-14

Revelation 1:10 says: "By Inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day.” His words help us to locate the time of the fulfillment of the magnificent visions that he goes on to describe.

Not all, agree with this rendering of Revelation 1:10. For example, the German Bible translator Jörg Zink renders it: “I was filled with holy spirit, it was on Sunday.” Most Bible versions, however, translate the Greek phrase teiʹ ky·ri·a·keiʹ he·meʹrai as “the Lord’s day.” But in a footnote many claim that it refers to Sunday.

The German Herders Bibelkommentar, a Catholic reference work, explains the reasoning behind this thinking when it says: “Reference is made here at Revelation 1:10 not to the Day of Final Judgment, which is likewise known as the ‘Day of the Lord’, but to a specific day of the week. The early Christians began celebrating the first day of the week as the day of their main church services as early as the middle of the first century. (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2)” However, the two scriptures cited by that reference work in no way prove that first-century Christians viewed the first day of the week as “the day of their main church services.”

The first text, Acts 20:7, merely records that Paul, his traveling companions, and Christians from Troas gathered together on the first day of the week for a meal. Since Paul was going to leave the next day and he would not see them again for some time, he took advantage of the occasion to speak to them at length.

The second text, 1 Corinthians 16:2, encouraged the Christians at Corinth to set aside money “every first day of the week” in order to have something to contribute to those in need in Judea. Scholar Adolf Deissmann suggests that this day may have been a payday. At any rate, Paul’s suggestion was practical, since money could run out during the week.

Nowhere in the Bible is it said that Christians in the apostolic era viewed the first day of the week, now called Sunday, as a kind of Christian sabbath, a day set aside exclusively for their regular meetings for worship. It was only after the death of the apostles that Sunday came to be viewed in this way and came to be called “the Lord’s day.” This was part of the apostasy foretold by Jesus and the apostles themselves. Matthew 13:36-43; Acts 20:29, 30; 1 John 2:18.

What, then, is “the Lord’s day”? As said earlier the context of Revelation 1:10 points to Jesus as the Lord whose day it is. God’s Word identifies expressions such as “the day of our Lord Jesus Christ” with a time of judgment for mankind and the restoration of Paradise. 1 Corinthians 1:8; 15:24-26; Philippians 1:6, 10; 2:16.

Hence, Hans Bruns, in his translation with commentary, Das Neue Testament (The New Testament), is correct when he says: “Some maintain that he [John] is speaking here of Sunday, but it is far more likely that he is referring to the illustrious Day of the Lord, which is after all what all of his subsequent description pertains to.” W. E. Vine says: “‘The Day of the Lord’ . . . is the Day of His manifested judgment on the world.” Fritz Rienecker’s Lexikon zur Bibel (Lexicon of the Bible) says that “the Lord’s day” clearly refers to “judgment day.”

The right understanding of the expression “the Lord’s day” helps us to understand the whole book of Revelation. Moreover, the evidence is that day has already begun. How important it is, then, that we ‘hear the words of the prophecy of Revelation and observe the things written in it’! Revelation 1:3, 19.

There will always be those that will disagree. Individuals must choose what they believe the truth is.


Hi Barn, been a while since we conversed. Hope all is ok sir. I definitely agree, in fact it is an extensive period of time.
 

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It really doesn't matter what I say to this question. You and I will continue to disagree even if I answer this question.
No doubt but I'd still be interested in how you see yourself and your church, particularly seeing you've said you don't see yourself as part of Christendom.
 

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Hello Barney,

Why 1914? Wasn’t that world war 1?

humbly, in Christ,
Matthew Gallagher
 

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The Day of the Lord and the Lord's Day are not the same concepts in scripture.

The Day of the Lord is always used when referring to the final day Wrath of God that is presented in Matthew 24:29-31 and Isaiah 13:9-11.

The one, and only, mention of the Lord's Day is in Rev. 1:10, as you mentioned, but the Bible defines what that day is in Isaiah 58:13 as the Sabbath Day - which is the only day God ever claimed as His Day and declared it to be holy and sanctified it. Genesis 2:2-3

The Day of the Lord can be translated as the Day 'from' the Lord. Lord's Day and Day 'of' the Lord are completely different concepts.
 

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No doubt but I'd still be interested in how you see yourself and your church, particularly seeing you've said you don't see yourself as part of Christendom.

This reply to your post is just a few things that show we believe way differently than you. We stand separate from you in many beliefs that Christendom has. Jehovah's Witnesses are no part of Christendom. In fact, Christendom was founded nearly 300 years after Jesus’ death, and its beliefs have greatly deviated from what Jesus taught. For example, we do not accept Christendom’s belief in the Trinity, which teaches that Jesus is God himself. Nowhere do the Scriptures contain this teaching. (Deuteronomy 6:4; Mark 12:29; John 14:28) We do not use the cross as a symbol, nor do we employ statues in any way as part of our worship. These are all things that the Bible condemns.Exodus 20:3-5; 1 John 5:21.

The Kingdom of God is a dominant theme that runs throughout the Sacred Scriptures. The prophet Daniel speaks of the Messiah and says: “To him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.” (Daniel 7:13, 14) Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that God’s Kingdom by his Messiah is a real government and that the rule of this government will restore true peace to the earth. It is this government, the Messianic Kingdom, with the Only Begotten Son of God as king, that is mankinds hope. Isaiah 9:6, 7; Psalm 46:8, 9; 72:7.

The Scriptures show that the seat of this government is in the heavens and that the Messiah, resurrected from death to God’s right hand, is its Ruler. (Psalm 110:1, 2) Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that eventually billions will receive everlasting life on earth as subjects of the Messianic rule. Thus, we are firmly convinced that the earth will never be destroyed and that the Bible's promise will be fulfilled: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.” Psalm 37:29.

When it comes to the Messianic Kingdom when I listen to what Christendom says about it, they don't truly believe it's a real government that Jesus Christ is king of and Christendom doesn't teach that the righteous will possess the earth and live forever on it. Christendom teaches that planet earth will be destroyed.

Because Jehovah's Witnesses love Jehovah our God with our whole heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love our neighbors as ourselves, we are not divided nationally, racially, or socially. (Leviticus 19:18; Deuteronomy 6:4, 5; Mark 12:30, 31) We are widely noted for the love and unity that is manifested among our spiritual brothers, who are found in all nations. This is in harmony with the prophecies concerning “the final part of the days” that speak of people of all nations worshiping God in unity and ‘not learning war anymore.’ (Isaiah 2:2-4; Zephaniah 3:9; John 13:35) Thus, we maintain a neutral stand toward the political affairs of all nations. We believe that worshiping God properly means avoiding immoral conduct, including lying, stealing, fornication, adultery, homosexuality, the misuse of blood, idolatry, and other such things condemned in the Scriptures. Exodus 20:3-5, 13-17; Leviticus 17:10; 20:13; Psalm 15:1-5; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

Christendom which says they follow Jesus Christ, don't have love among themselves as Jesus Christ said his true disciples would have. John 13: 34-35 They have many divisions which they call denominations. True Christianity doesn't have denominations. We've seen nothing in the scriptures that the True global Church is supposed to have divisions or denominations.
Also during our time, when World War 1 & 2 happened, the nations that said they followed Jesus Christ fought and killed each other in those wars. The scriptures are every clear that Jesus true disciples would have love among themselves and that if you can't love your spiritual brother or sister who you can see, it's impossible for you to love God who you can't see. John 13:31John 4:20. Try as you might you won't convince me that putting a bullet in my spiritual brother or sisters head, or blowing them up with bombs just because a human government tells me to, is showing love to them, or practicing that love that God has shown all of mankind when he sent his Only Begotten Son to die for mankind.
 

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The context of Revelation 1:10 shows that “the Lord’s day” is not a particular day of the week. Since it was “by inspiration” that John came to be “in the Lord’s day,” that doesn't mean some particular day of the week. It would not have been necessary for John to have been inspired to come to a specific day of the week. Therefore, “the Lord’s day” is that future time during which events that John saw in vision would occur. This included such things as the war in heaven and Satan cast out, the destruction of Babylon the Great and the kings of the earth and their armies, Satan being bound and abyssed, the resurrection of the dead, and Christ’s Thousand Year Reign.

I see it this way as well ,in fact that's the only way you can really understand the Book

Revelation 1:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,"

This verse is the key to understanding the book of Revelation. Without a clear and full understanding of it, the entire book will just not make sense. The sequence of the order will seem strange.

"I"; this is John speaking and telling us where he was. "I was in the Spirit", not in his flesh body; "on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet". John is taken forward in time, "in the Spirit", to the day of the Lord. The "Day of the Lord" is not referring to Sunday or Saturday. This is the same "Day of the Lord" Paul speaks about in I Thessalonians 5:2, as "coming as a thief in the night". Later in II Thessalonians 2:2-3 Paul makes it clear that at the "Day of the Lord" Christ's return will not happen until "after there will be a great falling away first; and "that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition". Satan must be revealed in his role as the Antichrist first, before that seventh trumpet can sound, the last trumpet.

The time, or day, John was taken to was beyond our time frame, however we are living in the generation that will see it come to pass, and live through what John saw and lived, while in the Spirit. There is only one day that is called "The Day of the Lord" in all the Scriptures.

Isaiah 2:12 "For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low."

This is the day that our Lord returns. This is the day "God's cup of wrath" is poured out upon His enemies. So John was taken in the Spirit to the last day of this flesh period, before the start of the Millennium. If you are still in your flesh body, that day hasn't happened yet, and it is still future to us.

Every verse that you read in Revelation from this verse to the end of chapter twenty two, will be viewed from the Lord's day, either looking backwards or forwards a short period of time.
 

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how do you see yourselves?
We see ourselves as fulfilling Daniel 12:4:9-10...describing the "time of the end", God's angel said to Daniel...
"Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end. 10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand."

Towards the close of the 19th century, a small group of men from different denominations of Christendom were drawn together with one aim.....to scrutinize the teachings of Christendom to see if they were in accord with scripture. Disillusioned with their churches' teachings and seeing a strong Pharisaical resemblance, they wanted to clear the slate and start from scratch....simply allowing the Bible to speak for itself. That exercise ended up eliminating about 90% of their former beliefs.

There was no claim to be prophets or with any special abilities, just an honest quest for the truth.
They found no trinity, no immortal soul, no hellfire, no purgatory, no devotion to Mary, no praying to saints, no infant baptism, no heaven for all Christians, and no destruction of the earth. They also came to realize where many church celebrations originated....not from the Bible, but all were simply pagan festivals renamed with a thin veneer of excuses to make them appear to be "Christian" and harmless. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18) They were not harmless to God.

They also realized that politically motivated warfare was no place for Christians especially if fellow "Christians" were on the opposing side. (1 John 4:20-21) This made military service unacceptable.....Jesus taught us not to harm our enemies, but to love them and pray for them. (Matthew 5:43-44) You can't do that with weapons.

Jesus warned about the devil sowing a counterfeit form of Christianity in the world, calling them "weeds". We see Christendom as those "weeds". (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-42)

When it was discovered that so much of "church" teaching was not Bible based, but adopted from paganism, we accepted the cleansing, whitening and refinement, that Daniel spoke about, though each was a lengthy process.....by analyzing all of Christendom's doctrines in the light of scripture and allowed God's spirit to guide their thinking, they identified all the beliefs and practices that originated in post flood Babylon, and heeded God's command to "get out of Babylon the great". (Revelation 18:4-5) All worship that promotes Babylonian teachings make up "the greater Babylon".

From small beginnings we are now about 8.5 million Christians in a global brotherhood who all hold the same beliefs in common and who hold almost nothing in common with the teachings of Christendom, whom we believe, are not even remotely close to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

We are also known for our preaching work, which was a command from Jesus, but Christendom always seemed to find excuses not to participate. (Matthew 28:19-20; Matthew 24:14) Jesus said he would back this work.

So that is basically how we see ourselves. We have come out of all nations and faiths to become brothers and sisters supporting Christ and his brothers, the elect, (Matthew 25:35, 38-40) and spreading the good news of God's Kingdom in all the world. Most in Christendom cannot even tell you what God's Kingdom is.
 

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What happened in 1914 that they think Jesus came then? I’m old but not quite that old.
Matthew 24 was the prophesy Jesus gave to indicate the time period of his return....he gave a composite sign to demonstrate that he was "present" (parousia) not "coming" (erchomai) .....his "coming" or manifestation was to come at the end of the last days....1914 was the beginning of them. (Calculated according to Daniel's prophesies)

Matthew 24:3-14....
"Later, Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives. His disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will all this happen? What sign will signal your return and the end of the world?”

4 Jesus told them, “Don’t let anyone mislead you, 5 for many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah.’ They will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and threats of wars, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must take place, but the end won’t follow immediately. 7 Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this is only the first of the birth pains, with more to come.


9 “Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because you are my followers. 10 And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. 11 And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people. 12 Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come."
(NLT)

Christ's "presence" was signaled by those world events that began with unprecedented war, which saw "the First World War" as the only war in human history where all the nations were drawn in to it. It resulted in massive loss of life. It was followed by the Spanish Flu epidemic (Luke 21:11) which saw more live taken than in the war. Food shortages made food rationing necessary, and we have also seen an increase in volcanic and earthquakes since 1914.

There would be false prophets and deceivers in the world, making the identification of the true disciples difficult, especially because they would be persecuted and hated like Christ's first disciples. (John 15:18-21)
Jesus also indicated that the love of people would grow cold towards one another, but that Christ's disciples would take his message of the Kingdom to "the most distant part of the earth".....a work commanded by Jesus, but by and large not taken up by the churches. (Acts 5:42; Acts 20:20)
 

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One day you’ll leave this body behind and your soul will go on to be judged by God.

I believe the day of the Lords return was for a group of people back then who were encouraged to hold fast and wait for Jesus return while the people at the written churches to and were warned by Jesus through the spirit by John was foretelling them the time was coming soon for Jesus To return and gather the bridegroom of believers along with leaving a remnant behind that after the destruction of Jerusalem.

The new heaven and earth came about which was the old Jewish material ways of worship was done away with. New spiritual worship was achieved by the victory of Gods Son.

My thoughts on the subject they may be wrong,
In love to all,
Matthew Gallagher

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Be encouraged to read your Bible, friends in Christ.

A word search can be done with a program called e-sword and you look up the phrase “the day” and look for them all in the New Testament. Read about them and see what your thoughts conclude to.
 
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I see it this way as well ,in fact that's the only way you can really understand the Book

Revelation 1:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,"

This verse is the key to understanding the book of Revelation. Without a clear and full understanding of it, the entire book will just not make sense. The sequence of the order will seem strange.

"I"; this is John speaking and telling us where he was. "I was in the Spirit", not in his flesh body; "on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet". John is taken forward in time, "in the Spirit", to the day of the Lord. The "Day of the Lord" is not referring to Sunday or Saturday. This is the same "Day of the Lord" Paul speaks about in I Thessalonians 5:2, as "coming as a thief in the night". Later in II Thessalonians 2:2-3 Paul makes it clear that at the "Day of the Lord" Christ's return will not happen until "after there will be a great falling away first; and "that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition". Satan must be revealed in his role as the Antichrist first, before that seventh trumpet can sound, the last trumpet.

The time, or day, John was taken to was beyond our time frame, however we are living in the generation that will see it come to pass, and live through what John saw and lived, while in the Spirit. There is only one day that is called "The Day of the Lord" in all the Scriptures.

Isaiah 2:12 "For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low."

This is the day that our Lord returns. This is the day "God's cup of wrath" is poured out upon His enemies. So John was taken in the Spirit to the last day of this flesh period, before the start of the Millennium. If you are still in your flesh body, that day hasn't happened yet, and it is still future to us.

Every verse that you read in Revelation from this verse to the end of chapter twenty two, will be viewed from the Lord's day, either looking backwards or forwards a short period of time.

In the hopes of clarifying the day of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1914C.E. This is the year the times of the Gentiles ended and Jesus started ruling in the midst of his enemies in heaven. This is also Called the second presence of Jesus Christ. Now the Day of YHWH which is Armageddon it's still in the future, exactly when in the future we don't know, but think it's very close.
 
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