ChristisGod
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CorrectIf anyone denies the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, they are not a brother in Christ and will die in their sins (John 8:24).
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CorrectIf anyone denies the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ, they are not a brother in Christ and will die in their sins (John 8:24).
You've never met someone who is in a church that's got it all wrong, but that they themselves still managed to be found by God through it all? I believe I have. Some have gone from their churches to ones with a clearer faith. But I remember one fellow, his answer was more a wink, that God wanted him where he was.Matthew 7:21 - what Lord are you talking about, you should heed Jesus words.
He will be telling many that I never knew you !
what on earth are ALL the warning in the bible concerning false christs and false teachers for ?
if what you say is true then so is universalism since you can believe whatever you want about jesus and be saved.
instead of all dogs go to heaven, its all cults go to heaven
I've heard it all now.
your words not mine below:You've never met someone who is in a church that's got it all wrong, but that they themselves still managed to be found by God through it all? I believe I have. Some have gone from their churches to ones with a clearer faith. But I remember one fellow, his answer was more a wink, that God wanted him where he was.
And, Please, get past this habit of yours of falsely restating my view into something that I don't say or even think. Seriously man! Do you not see how empty that is? It's patently obvious that you don't want to give a real response, so you throw out some schoolyard nonesense.
All cults go to heaven! Sure. Let's pretend I said that, and you can have a much easier response to devise.
But why?
Do you want to just drive me away because you don't have real responses?
Much love!
I think Mormans and Jehovah's Witness's and all the rest can be born again, have been born again, from incomplete and sometimes erroneous ideas, and sometimes quickly, and sometimes slowly, change their understandings.
I think you gave a list of what you consider the essentials for salvation, does anyone really hit all these bars when they first confess their sin? Does someone have to be able to identify and define the Hypostatic Union to be saved? Or is it, All who call upon the Name of the Lord?
Hm. I just realized this is the newest OSAS thread.
Just the same, I do love you, and hope that in some way I can be conveying a gift to you!
Mark
then it sounds like a person can believe whatever they want about jesus and be saved, it doesn't matter one bit that He is God or not.
Not everyone is supposed to be teachers. Freedom of speech is something we talk about as what we like to do in this country, but we don't have an individual "right" to be teachers of God's Word.
Much love!
You don't think that we can be saved even with limited understanding? Won't God receive all who come to Him in sincerity, even if they don't get everything right? Can't He then go on to instruct them?
Only Jesus saves, of course.
You can't cut down a piece of a tree, carve it, cover it in gold, and say, Teach me! Save me!
But you can look at that tree . . . look at the night sky, and see the stars, and know, know in your heart Someone made all of that! And to the One Who made all that, I want You!
Will God cast them aside?
Much love!!
. So if a person cannot defend their beliefs they should think twice about online forums and get plugged into a local church
My “ take” on the Catholic Church is that I know and love many Catholics ...it’s their Doctrine that I loathe . It contains so many obvious Additions to Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing That all that adhere to it are “ Fallen From Grace”—- they do not know what that means and are oblivious to it anyway. Intelligent Bible teachers disagree as to what ‘ falling from Grace” entails . Does it mean walking a crippled Walk Of Faith it does it mean that one is Damned ? Beats me. Why gamble though? Don’t ADD to the Gospel! It’s Nothing But The Blood for Salvation....
that is funny because I have met some wonderful people on forums and have become friends in person where we do things together such as golf, fish, have meals together, fellowship etc..... We do life together.You have no idea what you are talking about.
Your idea of a forum, has nothing to do with Christianity
You exist on a forum to argue your opinion, as that is all you have to offer.
So, for you, a forum is not a assembly of believers, its a plaice to pick a fight with another person's beliefs.
Your carnality is exposed., as it will be again in your next ignorant post.
and which cult are you affiliated with ?A Christian should feel exactly about a "cult", as God feels about it.
= Offended.
Nothing offends the Holy Spirit more then a cult that is built on Cross rejection, Mary Worship, and self effort doctrine that tries to replace the Blood of Jesus as the ONLY means of Salvation.
Show me a Catholic and i'll show you someone that believes that WATER has saved them. That WATER has taken care of their Sin.
This Cross rejection, offend God, and blasphemes the Blood of Jesus.
that funny because I have met some wonderful people on forums and have become friends in person where we do things together such as golf, fish, have meals together, fellowship etc..... We do life together.
So much for your ad hominem attacks.
ad hominem attack is s sure sign of defeat that your argument is invalid and you are unable to defend your position. see definition below.Now you want to talk about your forum buddies?
Yet earlier you decided to inform us that your idea of a "christian forum" is to BRING it and lets see who can be the biggest jerk.
Well, you won that one, by a large margin.
Now listen carefully, .. If you had the Love of God in you and the Anointing of the Holy Spirit on you, you would not only be interested in created strife, hard feelings, and anger on a "christian" forum.
Understand?
And one more point that you need to get..... that i made.
Its this...
JOB ONE.....JOB 1, regarding a MODERATOR and a CREATOR of of "Christian Forum".... is not to referee or exist to protect your favorite members....
No, JOB 1, is to protect the NEW BELIEVER from bering RUINED by heretics as found on a "christian" forum.
Got that? !
Thats Job 1.
Never doubt it.
I disagree with that first part regarding Heretics.Its a shame that the reality is, that a New Believer, a Baby Christian, can't find one "christian" Forum, on this earth, where they can go and not be faith destroyed by heretics.
It should not be so, but that is the case.
It would seem to me, that an Owner of a Christian forum, and Mods, would have as JOB 1, the KNOWLEDGE that Believer's have to be protected from heretics.....but instead....>"christian" forums are really just "park and preach" gateways, where the Mods sort of sit and wait for it to become too intense, then they run in and ban someone.
But that solves nothing.
Here is how you resolve 99% of the Devil's accomplishments, using a "christian" forum.
You simple state in the TOS that you may not discuss..
1. Lose your Salvation
2. God chooses some for Heaven, but not all.
And then you enforce it.
See, just get RID of those 2 Heretical TREASURES, and all Christian Forums potentially become a God honoring Place to be.
Will this ever happen?
Nope.
And the Devil loves this fact.
I'm sorry . . .your words not mine below:
"I think Mormans and Jehovah's Witness's and all the rest can be born again, have been born again, from incomplete and sometimes erroneous ideas, and sometimes quickly, and sometimes slowly, change their understandings."
So why don't you say what you mean and mean what you say mark ?
What am I suppose to believe you said in your above statement if its not what I said in my last post ?
Please clarify what you meant mark so I can understand what that means in the quote above from you.
Why the "ambiguity " ?
Either it's done "in order", or it's a free for all.Who is to decide what teachers have been called and what teachers have not been called?
As soon as you start policing the message boards, you run the risk of outing preachers who are in fact called but because the moderator has a different point of view, now that teacher has been banned and his right to free speech has been effectively squelched.
I will say again, God is not afraid of dissenting opinions; He is certainly able to deal with them effectively with His own word.
When you start banning teachers for saying something that you disagree with (not realizing that they may be right and you wrong), you run the risk of quenching the Holy Spirit by stopping His vessels from being able to speak in that situation.
Again, it was Jesus who said that if we don't believe that He is the great I AM, we will die in our sins.
A person can indeed be born again apart from that knowledge; but if they are truly bron again, they will accept that knowledge when it is presented to them.
See above.
God does, and by their fruits you shall know them.Who is to decide what teachers have been called and what teachers have not been called?
That's not exactly what He said.Again, it was Jesus who said that if we don't believe that He is the great I AM, we will die in our sins.
ad hominem attack is s sure sign of defeat that your argument is invalid and you are unable to defend your position. see definition below.
Ad hominem
An attack upon an opponent in order to discredit their argument or opinion. Ad hominems are used by immature and/or unintelligent people because they are unable to counter their opponent using logic and intelligence.