Perry Stone has great video that explains Bible teaching for the pre-trib rapture.

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Perry Stone has great video that explains the Bible teaching for the pre-trib rapture and how close we are.
Google== "" Perry Stone Prophecy April 04 2018 — ARE YOU READY FOR THE RAPTURE — Perry Stone 2018 ""
 

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Any studied Bible student would be able to tear apart any pre-trib rapture treatise.
 

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(From a book I happen to be reading right now.)

An eschatological theme that is as widely misunderstood as it is commonly discussed in popular prophetic literature is the "last days.” This factor of eschatological chronology is an important concept that requires a deep appreciation of the complexity of God's sovereign governance of history and the outworking of His redemptive purposes. Unfortunately, the idea of the last days is greatly abused by many.

In a popular work the writer comments about those of us living among the "generation” (Matt. 24:34) of World War I: "There is no question that we are living in the last days. The fact that we are the generation that will be on the earth when our Lord comes certainly should not depress us."45
45. Tim LaHaye, The Beginning of the End (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale, 1972), pp. 171-172. See also Charles H. Dyer, The Rise of Babylon: Sign of the End Times (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale, 1991). The latter book has to do with Saddam Hussein in contemporary Iraq.


The average Christian believes his is the very last times, that he is living in the shadow of the Second Coming. Consider some representative statements pointing in alarm to the imminence of the end in the "last days":
(1) The Antichrist "is now close at hand.”
(2) "The world is failing, passing away, and it witnesses to its ruin, not now by the age, but by the end of things.” Because of this the Christian should know
(3) that "still more terrible things are imminent.” Indeed,
(4) "Already the heavenly fire is giving birth, already the approach of divine punishment is manifest, already the doom of coming disaster is heralded.”
(5) Because of world circumstances the plea is: "Consider, I beg you, whether the age can bear this for long?”
(6) "All creation now waits in suspense for his arrival. The world, which must be transformed anew, is already pregnant with the end that is to come on the final day.” How often have we heard such cries of the end? Are not these the concerns of so many of the current crop of prophetic studies so wildly popular in our time?

I should confess to the reader, though, that I have not been entirely up front. All of the statements in the immediately preceding paragraph were made, not by contemporary prophetic writers, but by Christians living well over a thousand years ago. The following is a list of the sources:
Number (1) is from Tertullian (160-220), De Fuga 12.
Numbers (2) and (3) are from Cyprian (A.D. 195-258), De Mort 25.
Number (4) is from Firmicus Maternus (ca. A.D. 346), De Errore Profanarum Religion= 25:3.
Number (5) is from Evodius of Uzala (ca. A.D. 412).
Number (6) is from Paulinus of Nola (A.D. 353-431).46 Too many have misunderstood the eschatology of Scripture and the function of the "last days” in eschatology — and that for untold hundreds of years.

Properly understood the idea of the last days is focused on the most important episode of history: the life of Jesus Christ lived out in fulfillment of divine prophecy and of redemptive history. Christ is the focal point of all Scripture. He is anticipated in the Old Testament revelation and realized in the New: "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me” (John 5:39).47 As such He stands as history's dividing line — hence the historical appropriateness and theological significance of dividing history between B.C. and A.D.48

There are many prophetic references looking forward to the "Messianic age of consummation” introduced by Christ.49 This era is frequently deemed "the last days” or "the latter days."50 "The expression then properly denoted the future times in general; but, as the coming of the Messiah was to the eye of a Jew the…….
(...... and I will spare you any more reading. I think you get the point.)
 
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Watch and give it a try!! Google== "" Perry Stone Prophecy April 04 2018 — ARE YOU READY FOR THE RAPTURE — Perry Stone 2018 ""
 

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(From a book I happen to be reading right now.)

An eschatological theme that is as widely misunderstood as it is commonly discussed in popular prophetic literature is the "last days.” This factor of eschatological chronology is an important concept that requires a deep appreciation of the complexity of God's sovereign governance of history and the outworking of His redemptive purposes. Unfortunately, the idea of the last days is greatly abused by many.

In a popular work the writer comments about those of us living among the "generation” (Matt. 24:34) of World War I: "There is no question that we are living in the last days. The fact that we are the generation that will be on the earth when our Lord comes certainly should not depress us."45

The average Christian believes his is the very last times, that he is living in the shadow of the Second Coming. Consider some representative statements pointing in alarm to the imminence of the end in the "last days":
(1) The Antichrist "is now close at hand.”
(2) "The world is failing, passing away, and it witnesses to its ruin, not now by the age, but by the end of things.” Because of this the Christian should know
(3) that "still more terrible things are imminent.” Indeed,
(4) "Already the heavenly fire is giving birth, already the approach of divine punishment is manifest, already the doom of coming disaster is heralded.”
(5) Because of world circumstances the plea is: "Consider, I beg you, whether the age can bear this for long?”
(6) "All creation now waits in suspense for his arrival. The world, which must be transformed anew, is already pregnant with the end that is to come on the final day.” How often have we heard such cries of the end? Are not these the concerns of so many of the current crop of prophetic studies so wildly popular in our time?


45. Tim LaHaye, The Beginning of the End (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale, 1972), pp. 171-172. See also Charles H. Dyer, The Rise of Babylon: Sign of the End Times (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale, 1991). The latter book has to do with Saddam Hussein in contemporary Iraq.

I should confess to the reader, though, that I have not been entirely up front. All of the statements in the immediately preceding paragraph were made, not by contemporary prophetic writers, but by Christians living well over a thousand years ago. The following is a list of the sources:
Number (1) is from Tertullian (160-220), De Fuga 12.
Numbers (2) and (3) are from Cyprian (A.D. 195-258), De Mort 25.
Number (4) is from Firmicus Maternus (ca. A.D. 346), De Errore Profanarum Religion= 25:3.
Number (5) is from Evodius of Uzala (ca. A.D. 412).
Number (6) is from Paulinus of Nola (A.D. 353-431).46 Too many have misunderstood the eschatology of Scripture and the function of the "last days” in eschatology — and that for untold hundreds of years.

Properly understood the idea of the last days is focused on the most important episode of history: the life of Jesus Christ lived out in fulfillment of divine prophecy and of redemptive history. Christ is the focal point of all Scripture. He is anticipated in the Old Testament revelation and realized in the New: "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me” (John 5:39).47 As such He stands as history's dividing line — hence the historical appropriateness and theological significance of dividing history between B.C. and A.D.48

There are many prophetic references looking forward to the "Messianic age of consummation” introduced by Christ.49 This era is frequently deemed "the last days” or "the latter days."50 "The expression then properly denoted the future times in general; but, as the coming of the Messiah was to the eye of a Jew the…….

(...... and I will spare you any more reading. I think you get the point.)


The "last days" phrase is a favorite tome of pre-trib rapture preachers like Tim LaHaye. It presents the ability to be vague, so it can be shaped and molded into just about whatever time since the past 2000 years that one so desires.

But with phrases like "the day of the Lord" will come "as a thief in the night", that is not so vague, yet the pre-trib rapture preachers think it is, which is why they lie and say the "day of the Lord" begins prior to the trib and lasts all the way through it. To believe that though means this Scripture declaration by Apostle Peter must be out of focus when they look at it:

2 Peter 3:10-12
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
KJV


How will ANYTHING of man last through that consuming fire from God from that "day of the Lord"? And how can men lie and say that day is for the tribulation when the coming of that day is to be a surprise upon the wicked and deceived, coming "as a thief in the night"? In 1 Thess.5, Apostle Paul taught that "day of the Lord" event will come upon them "as a thief in the night" with a "sudden destruction"! Does that sound like the "day of the Lord" will be aligned with the tribulation? No, of course not.
 

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Caught up IS the rapture!!!
1 THESS 4:13-18
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be """caught up""" together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.============ The truth of the very near rapture IS a great comfort to real born again believers. and you??
 

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Perry Stone has great video that explains the Bible teaching for the pre-trib rapture and how close we are.
Google== "" Perry Stone Prophecy April 04 2018 — ARE YOU READY FOR THE RAPTURE — Perry Stone 2018 ""
Have you read Perry Stone Prophecy 1992?
Same old stuff rehashed.
He's good at it.
 

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Russia was not backing Iran and Turkey in 1992 but just this week==The leaders of Turkey, Russia and Iran concluded an Ankara meeting this week that looks suspiciously like a partial alliance that excludes the United States.Ezekiel 38 and 39 says Iran, Turkey, Syria backed by Russia will start WW 111 when they attack tiny Israel and will be defeated by God who protects Israel but 2 1/2 billion will die!!
 

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SAD!!! But so many people some even in the church are living with their heads in the sand with no idea of the signs of the end days and how short time is. Rapture day could be yet today!!! Are you ready to meet Jesus??
 

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SAD!!! But so many people some even in the church are living with their heads in the sand with no idea of the signs of the end days and how short time is. Rapture day could be yet today!!! Are you ready to meet Jesus??
That's always a good question.
We could all die at any time.
 

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Caught up IS the rapture!!!
1 THESS 4:13-18
But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be """caught up""" together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.============ The truth of the very near rapture IS a great comfort to real born again believers. and you??

Apostle Paul didn't use the word rapture. That word is not in the Greek texts. He used Greek harpazo which the KJV translators rendered to "caught up". That's what I use, because the word rapture has been misused by those on John Darby's 1830's pre-tribulational rapture doctrine, which Darby originally taught would be a secret rapture.

In 1 Thessalonians 4, Paul revealed that Jesus will bring the "asleep" saints with Him when He comes, and then those of us alive will be caught up to Him (and them) on that day, and then Zech.14 reveals we go with Him to Jerusalem on earth. Acts 1 reveals Jesus will return to the Mount of Olives how He ascended to Heaven from there.

Matthew 24 and Mark 13 reveals at Christ's coming, His angels gathering the saints, both those saints from heaven, and the saints alive on earth, which is in agreement with 1 Thess.4.

1 Thess.4 also reveals that those dead in Christ will be resurrected first when Jesus comes, before the alive saints are 'caught up'. 1 Corinthians 15 agrees with this also, and gives the timing of the "last trump" when this will happen, and defines the resurrection, and in what body the alive saints will be changed to at the twinkling of an eye.

Thus 1 Thessalonians 4 does not... stand alone as evidence for a post-tribulational coming of Jesus Christ and gathering of His Church.