Protestant Leaders and the pope

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bbyrd009

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Vladimer Putin doesnt mince his words He said the pope is not of God.
ha ya, he's a great source lol
and who would want to be in the pope's shoes, i'm amazed at the reforms he has already accomplished tbh
is he surrounded by globalists prolly

seems like i member him directly condemning capitalism recently tho
 

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There is so much hate and misinformation on this thread...
Notice there is no date on the Nazi pictures. That's because the pictures were taken before the atrocities began, and Triumph hides the truth.

Pope Pius XI signed a concord with Germany to secure the rights of Christians in the country, because the Vatican recognized what a threat Hitler and his henchmen were to religious liberty. This was not an endorsement of the Nazi Party or its philosophy (it may be remembered that America also had treaties with Germany before the war broke out).

When Hitler went back on the deal and began abrogating the civil rights of Christians, the Vatican responded by issuing the only encyclical ever written in German (Mit Brennender Sorge or "With Burning Anxiety"), concerning the horrors of the National Socialist German state. This encyclical was smuggled into Germany (it would never have been allowed in, had the Nazis known it was coming) and read at all the parishes on the same day.

The Encyclopedia of Catholic History (by Matthew Bunson) notes: "the encyclical was a strong denunciation of Nazism, noting that the Nazis had broken several points of the concordat and were actively involved in anti-Catholic and anti-Christian programs, such as the removal of the OT [Old Testament] from schools and the promotion of the so-called German National Church. The encyclical was read from the pulpit of every German church on March 21, 1937" (p. 563).

Triumph is ignorant of the truth, or he just likes to bash Catholics with lies.
 

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Vladimer Putin doesnt mince his words He said the pope is not of God.

Go Putin. Putin for president
"...The pope was saying that although the communists have adopted the rhetoric of Christianity (with regards to the needy), they have done so dishonestly: He said the “communists have stolen our flag,” meaning they have ripped off our legacy to serve their own interests. In fact, he pointedly said in 2013 that “The Marxist ideology is wrong.”

Putin believes that the state should serve the poor. That is not the Christian way: people must serve the poor, albeit there is a role for the state. “The family constitutes the best ‘social capital,'” Pope Francis said a few years ago in his trip to Ecuador. “It cannot be replaced by other institutions.” In doing so, he was enunciating the Catholic principle of subsidiarity, meaning that those closest to the problem are best suited to fix it. That is an anathema in Soviet discourse, something shared by Putin.

If Putin were right, then the most communist nation in the world would also be the greatest champion of the poor. But he is wrong—North Korea is the most communist nation on the globe and it is also the most oppressive. Not only does it starve its people, in the latest Open Doors report on Christian persecution around the world, North Korea is listed as the number-one offender. In fact, it has led this list for 16 consecutive years.

This is not an accident. “The primary driver of persecution in North Korea is the state,” says the Open Doors report. And who do they persecute the most? Christians. “Christians are seen as hostile elements in society that have to be eradicated.”

Putin is not only wrong about equating communism to Christianity, he needs to tend to his own house. While religious liberty has improved in Russia, overall levels of freedom are a disgrace. Freedom House, which monitors freedom throughout the world, rated Russia “Not Free” in its latest report. On a score of 1 to 7, where 1 = Most Free and 7 = Least Free, Russia’s composite score was 6.5, earning a 7 for political rights and a 6 for civil liberties.

If Putin wants to help the poor, he can begin by shelving his authoritarian state and allowing individual rights to thrive. Then he would be modeling his nation on Christian principles.
PUTIN EQUATES COMMUNISM TO CHRISTIANITY

Ally.s.j is a child and should not be taken seriously.
 

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Triumph is ignorant of the truth, or he just likes to bash Catholics with lies.
Sure and this information is also full of lies and hate: ----> Catholic sexual abuse cases in Canada - Wikipedia

Strange how people get accused of hate when they post the truth.
But of course that's nothing new.
Anybody who does not like an opinion and facts screams "hate".
It's part of political correctness these days and fuelled by Facebook and other internet sources. I just heard the other day if you are against homosexual behaviour. You hate them. If you are against abortion you hate women. And the list goes on.
 
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When anti-Catholics get their lies exposed, they play the sex abuse card, under the false pretense that nothing has been done about it. More lies.
 

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The state of Israel as we know it today is just a material form of the spiritual. Talk about a tower of babel...
 
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ha ya, he's a great source lol
and who would want to be in the pope's shoes, i'm amazed at the reforms he has already accomplished tbh
is he surrounded by globalists prolly

seems like i member him directly condemning capitalism recently tho
He got rid of the globalist /oligars/bankers. Theives and robbers there are many videos of him telling the leeches how it is now going to be. You pay pensions and look after the people. It takes time to sort out and stay alive the second most corrupt contry in the world. Hes done fantastic. But still the clowns who watch cnn etc still belive the drival that the globalist shove down most throats. Putin is the man of the moment.
 

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Perhaps....

Israel / the land of milk and honey represents God

Jerusalem / Jesus

The daughters of Zion are the people of Israel / God’s family / the children of God

I do not believe people have the power to decide the physical boundaries of Israel.....right now, the country seems like an empty church
 
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I can't prove any of them are roman catholic but they all come away saying wonderful things about the pope, in charge of the church that signed a concordat with Nazi Germany.
A church that fought 8 crusades trying to take over Jerusalem.
A church that spent hundreds of years in the inquisition killing who knows how many people.
a church that took out anethema against protestants from their doctrine but can put it right back in when the time is right.
A church that tells it's people to worship the pope, worship Mary, worship the saints, and discourages tell to read the Bible.

Now this church is recruiting the rich pastors of protestantism and I can't prove what's going on.
But one thing I believe, they've never changed.


Can you document the charge that the Catholic Church is 'A church that tells it's people to worship the pope, worship Mary, worship the saints...' ?
 

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Can you document the charge that the Catholic Church is 'A church that tells it's people to worship the pope, worship Mary, worship the saints...' ?
I'll give you the phone numbers to all my family and all my wife's family, and they will tell you matter of factly.
 
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to be fair, the Good News coming out of the Protestant Religion is not ezackly much different imo

It has been said, that The Catholic Church Has great authority! Why else would the Protestant Churches follow the Sacred Traditions, instituted by the Catholic Church, especially Sunday Sabbath. As a whole they do follow the traditions of the Catholic Church, So it must be True!!!!!
 
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The state of Israel as we know it today is just a material form of the spiritual. Talk about a tower of babel...

Most of Israel is secular today, But the Hebrew people are still the Chosen people from the beginning! The sad thing is that all of Israel will suffer Much, But in the End they, the remnant will be reconciled to God, For the Promises to the Fathers! I do not understand your reference to the tower of Babel??
 

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Most of Israel is secular today, But the Hebrew people are still the Chosen people from the beginning! The sad thing is that all of Israel will suffer Much, But in the End they, the remnant will be reconciled to God, For the Promises to the Fathers! I do not understand your reference to the tower of Babel??

It is man’s attempt to create the promise land
 
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Yes, that's them. In bed with nazis.
No need to say more.
Sorry guys, I’m Protestant myself, but far be it from me to look at the splinter in my brother’s eye …

Actually more Protestants than Catholics were in bed with the Nazis. The “German Christians” even wanted to eradicate the OT, because of their rampant Anti-Semitism. Very few German Protestants were brave enough to join the “Confessing Church” and their opposition against Hitler’s atrocities is easily matched by outspoken Catholics such as Bishop von Galen.
The other day the pope was promoting palestinian terrorists.
There's nothing new under the sun.
I’d be very surprised if the Pope had ever condoned any kind of terrorism. Can you provide us with a link for this accusation?
 
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Israel is still Gods Chosen. God only made a Covenant with one People, There is No Covenant with the Gentiles, We are to Graft In. Soooo be careful what you claim against Israel!
"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galatians 3:29)
 

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"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galatians 3:29)
Mat 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Of course you actually have to belong to Christ "first".
 

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Can you document the charge that the Catholic Church is 'A church that tells it's people to worship the pope, worship Mary, worship the saints...' ?
No, he can't. But he will say whatever his 100 year old sabbatarian cult tells him to say.
It's either Jehovah's Witnesses or Seventh Day Adventist. Judging by his vicious brainless assaults on the Church I would say SDA.
 
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