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Helen

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Where in scripture does it allude to the racial pedigree of Jesus?

John 19
3 " And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands."

His flesh was from Mary...who was the linage of David..they were from the tribe of Judah. Luke 3 ( not "white" European )
 

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Thanks Core.

In that link, there is a post that is not as definitive as 'no gay gene':
'There is no gay gene': But study suggests genetics may play ...

A read of Rom 1 (NIV) and 1 Cor 6:9-11 (NIV) indicates homosexual behaviour is as much a sinful behavioural issue as theft, lying and adultery.

Oz

I am aware of it. I'm also aware that other links refute that link.

So in a room or 100 scientists say no and one says yes, you believe the yes.
 

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John 19
3 " And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands."

His flesh was from Mary...who was the linage of David..they were from the tribe of Judah. Luke 3 ( not "white" European )

The Bibles never says Jews are racially superior.

They were chosen due to the faith and righteousness of Abraham. Not of their own merit.
 

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John 19
3 " And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands."

His flesh was from Mary...who was the linage of David..they were from the tribe of Judah. Luke 3 ( not "white" European )
David was ruddy (which means to show red in the face) and Solomon was like "bright Ivory"
Not seen many middle eastern men or women who can produce red in the face (blush?) and certainly don't expect to see African show red in the face.


How do you know Jesus was " not white European" though?



The tender twig mentioned in Jeremiah that travelled NORTH WEST of Palestine gives Biblical and secular historical evidence for the "overturn" of the Throne of David to Ireland after Zedekiah's defeat at the hands of King Nebuchadnezzar. Those high kings of Ireland tie in with the break up of the House of Judah in 586.
Also I see the greatest use of the name Jeremiah (or simply Jerry as its derivation) in Ireland and strangely very little in the way of examples in the middle east!

Also...
The tribe of Dan used "way markers" by way of naming everywhere they settled on there migration NORTH WEST of Palestine ,using the estuaries of rivers to seek land bases... Dan were SEA fairers.

Dan /DN Hebrew
lonDON jorDAN....DUNkirk (Dan' church!!) DENmark...
Sheffield UK...river DON
I read somewhere that you can plot Dan's migration purely by the place names they stopped at including the nautical routes by the coastal and estuaries namesakes like the examples above.
 
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David was ruddy (which means to show red in the face) and Solomon was like "bright Ivory"
Not seen many middle eastern men or women who can produce red in the face (blush?) and certainly don't expect to see African show red in the face.
How do you know Jesus was " not white European" though?
The tender twig mentioned in Jeremiah that travelled NORTH WEST of Palestine gives Biblical and secular historical evidence for the "overturn" of the Throne of David to Ireland after Zedekiah's defeat at the hands of King Nebuchadnezzar. Those high kings of Ireland tie in with the break up of the House of Judah in 586.
Also I see the greatest use of the name Jeremiah (or simply Jerry as its derivation) in Ireland and strangely very little in way of examples in the middle east!

Jesus was Jewish, which is Caucasian, the same as Europeans. All the Middle East is primarily Caucasian.

But every racial type has subsets that look different but remain the racial type.

A Detailed List of Human Races That is Informative and Revealing

I am about 50-50 Caucasoid (Scottish) and mongoloid (American Indian)

My wife is Caucasoid with very fair skin. I have more olive skin.
 
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Jesus was Jewish, which is Caucasian, the same as Europeans. All the Middle East is primarily Caucasian.

But every racial type has subsets that look different but remain the racial type.

A Detailed List of Human Races That is Informative and Revealing

I am about 50-50 Caucasoid (Scottish) and mongoloid (American Indian)

My wife is Caucasoid with very fair skin. I have more olive skin.

When you say Jesus was Jewish are you referring to:
Adherent of Judaism, from the tribe of Judah or from Judea?
In your opinion does "Jewish" mean the same now as it did during Jesus' ministry?
Also is "semitic" Caucasian?
 
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The modern "Jews" say they are mixed.

The JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, edition of 1925, Vol. 5, page 41, states "Edom is in modern Jewry.

“from then on [Edomites] constituted a part of the jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants”, The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, 1966 Doubleday & Company, Inc , Garden City, New York, Pg. 592.
The [non-Israelite] Edomites became a section of the Jewish people. "EDOM," Encyclopaedia Judaica (Jerusalem, Israel: Encyclopaedia Judaica Company, 1971) Vol. 6, p. 378

They [the non-Israelite Edomites] were then incorporated with the Jewish nation…. "EDOM, IDUMEA," The Jewish Encyclopedia (New York & London: Funk and Wagnalls Company, 1904) Vol. V, p. 41

· …from then on they [the non-Israelite Edomites] constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod [King of Judea] being one of their descendants. "EDOM (Idumea)," The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1977) p. 589

· …they [the Edomites] were hereafter no other than [non-Israelite] Jews. Flavius Josephus, The Antiquities of the Jews (Grand Rapids, MI: Dregel Publications, 1960) Book XIII, Chapter IX, Verse 1, p. 279
 

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Because simple genetics displays the 50% loss from both parental lineage.

100% black parents offer 100% black genes to the child. (child 100% black)

100% white parents offer 100% white genes to the child. (child 100% white)

Black and White each gives 50% genes to the child so each parent blocks 50% of their genetic ancestry from future progeny.

That is alot of genetic code!

Its permenant and unchangeable (cannot be prayed for...)

It really is not that complicated.
(Jews HATE this subject because it is a threat to their mixture of all nations vision of "we are all one").

So No!

Also you are using a government endorsed book to deal with a biblical truth. That will not mix either. Societal rules and opinions (even the language) change like the tide...besides you need to be heavily invested in "society" to share its view point. The bible teaches about EMNITY between two seed lines, which will boil down to the mixed vs the pure.

Danube,

Are you referring to one of my posts with this response? If so, then please do a back quote so I know to whom you respond.

Or, do you have me on Ignore?

Oz
 
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David was ruddy (which means to show red in the face) and Solomon was like "bright Ivory"
Not seen many middle eastern men or women who can produce red in the face (blush?) and certainly don't expect to see African show red in the face.


How do you know Jesus was " not white European" though?



The tender twig mentioned in Jeremiah that travelled NORTH WEST of Palestine gives Biblical and secular historical evidence for the "overturn" of the Throne of David to Ireland after Zedekiah's defeat at the hands of King Nebuchadnezzar. Those high kings of Ireland tie in with the break up of the House of Judah in 586.
Also I see the greatest use of the name Jeremiah (or simply Jerry as its derivation) in Ireland and strangely very little in the way of examples in the middle east!

Also...
The tribe of Dan used "way markers" by way of naming everywhere they settled on there migration NORTH WEST of Palestine ,using the estuaries of rivers to seek land bases... Dan were SEA fairers.

Dan /DN Hebrew
lonDON jorDAN....DUNkirk (Dan' church!!) DENmark...
Sheffield UK...river DON
I read somewhere that you can plot Dan's migration purely by the place names they stopped at including the nautical routes by the coastal and estuaries namesakes like the examples above.

I'm interested.
Why on earth is it so important to you, to make Jesus White?!

Actually, I can't see what this has to do with the topic of this OP?

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When you say Jesus was Jewish are you referring to:
Adherent of Judaism, from the tribe of Judah or from Judea?
In your opinion does "Jewish" mean the same now as it did during Jesus' ministry?
Also is "semitic" Caucasian?
Jesus mother was from the Semitic race.
 

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The modern "Jews" say they are mixed.
What are modern Jews ?

If we are to talk about race then one must be full blood to be classed as such, because when one is mixed you are nothing, you can not say you are one or the other in fact.

My brother and I were working with a Greek once and my brother asked why are you not olive colour and this bloke said that he was a true Greek and that true Greeks white in fact, oh that's right my brother remembered, how silly. it was just that we had come to see most people from their were olive.
But this old Greek had a son that was working with him, that was olive and my brother asked, so what is your son then hey and he said that his son was is nothing ! and this was backed up by another old Greek working for him as well.

We both laughed at this position, but it is in fact true, the Old men were correct and to be sure one could not argue the point was factual.
But under Marxist Socialist Political Correctness doctrine this hides such a truth, using another guise that leads one astray to the facts and works to make one feel afraid to voice a opinion, because they are coming at this from another angle that cunningly temps all to believe there agenda, so you get people who are half becoming something, but rejecting the other half that they are ? we get this brainwashing here in Australia, where Satanic PC Socialist will try to tell some person that has just found out that they have a aboriginal bloodline 5 or 6 generations back and claim that this dupe is now a aboriginal person and they demand them not to let anyone tell you that you are not. well fact is all this is destructive to the true Aboriginals in fact, because they have lost their identity with such lies. it's a Satanic trick to undermine the true Blacks, the true Black has no more rights than the so called one who could even make it into to the Nazis superior race BS.
 

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Modern Jews race is nothing, they never were a so called race to start with, but just one religious Tribe out of many Semites in fact.

The Satanist have played on this Race card BS claiming total nonsense like Anti-Semitism. nothing is further from the truth in fact, most people in the world that are Semitic are of the Islamic faith in fact by far.
To be truly Anti-Semitic, one would have to hate the race of people who the majority by far are Moslems but the Jews are a religion in fact, they are not Semitic they are a Religion not a race just as every other religion is not about race.
The Moslem religion is not about a race.
The Christian religion is not about a race.
Israel is not about race, it's about serving God, if it was about race it would of been some sort of superior race that never could or did not fail, but they the people did fail, so the people of the tribe is not where it's at, it's to do with the Holy Spirit of God and following that or they failed and history of the Jews has shown that time and time again, not to mention that the OT says so as to why they fail. it's because they turned away from God, that's why they failed, so it's not the race at all, but God ! that's the point of the mater, not the race.

No one is anything but lost, until you are found and become Born Again in Christ Jesus.
Jesus never mentioned ones race will set you free, all people are under the power of Sin and that's the major problem and if you don't have a handle on that issue, your lost.
No so called Jew is going to save you, they could not save themselves, so why look to such nonsense. only Jesus Saves.
 
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Danube,

Are you referring to one of my posts with this response? If so, then please do a back quote so I know to whom you respond.

Or, do you have me on Ignore?

Oz
I will have a look.
I have no one on ignore (I dont know how to use this feature). I will go back and look at who I was replying to though. Thanks
 

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OzSpen: I was simply pointing out to others not yourself directly in that paricular reply, that race is a big part of scripture, the bible is very clear about it. "Gracists" have no compulsion to learn the racial elements of the bible because it shows the errors for what they are preaching. The bible addresses race but Gracists only like the warm fuzzy verses of Christianity which mainly comes from a prescribed format of Christian learning.
Interestingly I noticed the same few playing this down again but were happy to say that Jesus was probably black and thus is simply unsupported by scripture and unless corrected (as this requires evidence and proof) the conversation goes off with errors.
Doesn't seem to gain the same fairness of being "off topic".
Even if off topic no one is moderating this place properly anyway, because they would use the same "off topic" arguments in other threads and they simply do not do that because its safety in numbers by popular opinion here! I get it.
I'm interested.
Why on earth is it so important to you, to make Jesus White?!

Actually, I can't see what this has to do with the topic of this OP?

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Hang on ...You did assert Jesus was NOT white European?
So I rightly so asked you to provide evidence to support such a claim and you did not really even attempt it properly. The importance of Jesus' race and the TRUE ISRAEL brings good news to people who cannot understand why they are being persecuted for being white and european but understand the biblical concepts of emnity and conflict.
People ARE different, clearly by race, spirit and thought also. Secular and biblical history does not contradict this viewpoint because of the achievements and spiritual examples races cleave to in their host nations, it shows this is a constant battle between monotheism and its conflict of application is clearly a battlefield.
 
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Jesus never mentioned ones race will set you free, all people are under the power of Sin and that's the major problem and if you don't have a handle on that issue, your lost.
The bible is ALL about race, distinctions based on race and explains it very clearly all the way right up into the NT. Why does the Bible trace Israels lineage and inheritence throughout if it means nothing? Why did God create the differing races? Are we REALLY all one? Last time I checked the earths inhabitants are still not getting along and this is 2000 years after Jesus, only the WHITE european race cleaved and adopted CHRIST so race is very important. Race is a topic that will need to be addressed in the future anyway. The Kalergi plan?
The Jews believe in racial seperation (even though I have proved in their own words they are heavily mixed racially).

Yet a white bloke cannot have the same even as an opinion?

Why are you lot so scared that Jesus could be white?
 
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I have another question for people. When you look at the history of Christendom and see all the wars fought in the name of Jesus Christ, especially the two world wars where spiritual brother killed each other in the name of Jesus, did Jesus Christ teach brothers to act this way to each other? Is it showing love to each other? Christendom has a long history of failing to show love as they should. Are they True Christian organizations or just organizations that say they are.

Please get your historical facts right. Christianity was not responcible for either of the world wars.
Yes there were Christians serving and fighting on both sides, but the wars were fourght for political reasons not religous.
 
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