What I am trying to say is that if we fulfill the righteousness of the law in our behaviour, we haven't necessarily fallen from grace.
Read Galatians. At least read the Fifth chapter. Your ongoing ignorance is amazing .You don’t even know what “ Falling from Grace” means! it is exactly the OPPOSITE of what you think it is!
One more time.....maybe some Newbie with “ eyes to see” will GET IT.......You ? Not a chance....
Grace is what Saves . Grace Plus Nothing.If you ADD to Grace , ESPECIALLY by adding ANY type of Human Merit or Performance to it , you cancel it out. You are REJECTING the very thing that Saves you.
Good behavior, like going to church, tithing, being good to others, doing your best to keep the commandments, being “Christ- Like”......all of these things are great.....you will be blessed on earth and in Eternity for doing these things.....by all means—- DO THEM!
When you cross the line, however, is when you think that doing these doings will “ GET” you Saved or “ KEEP” you Saved.They DONT! Two things accomplished that —- Christ’s Blood and OUR Faith.Nothing But The Blood for Salvation from beginning to end! Like a Hypocrite , you Sing it , But you don’t believe it......
You really need to stay out of Christian Discussions until you “ prove yourself” to be a capable student .....you don’t even “ GET” Christianity 101 ...... I wonder how many Newbies you ruin here everyday .....learn to “ Rightly Divide” .....Galatians is not that hard to understand.....neither is falling from grace hard to understand .....unless you do not have “ eyes to see” ......have a little Mercy on those New to the Faith thatvyou do not understand......for the Love Of God—- go away.
The reality is that if we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4); and it is very true that this does not mean that we lose our salvation the moment we begin to walk according to the Spirit; as you seem to think.
I do not think that I am saved from hell by the work of sanctification that the Lord is doing within me. The work of sanctification is something that the Lord is doing within me
because I have been saved from hell. I am forgiven solely by the shed blood of Christ; and my performance has absolutely nothing to do with my obtaining of that forgiveness.
The blood of Jesus does not only justify a man (as per Romans 5:9)...it also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses from all sin (1 John 1:7).
It also, does not perform one of its functions (justify) without also performing the others (sanctify and cleanse).
I really don't see what your beef with me is. You wrote,
Good behavior, like going to church, tithing, being good to others, doing your best to keep the commandments, being “Christ- Like”......all of these things are great.....you will be blessed on earth and in Eternity for doing these things.....by all means—- DO THEM!
I do them; and I also do not believe or preach or teach that my doing of them is to my salvation.
So, what is your beef with me?
Ever since I took your challenge to show you in the Bible about repentance, and proved you wrong, you did not reward me with $1,000, as you said you would; but you rewarded me with a blot on my name...you accused me of being a false teacher ever afterward.
So, my question is, why did you make that challenge? You evidently thought that no one could prove you wrong. But when someone did, you did not change your mind about the false doctrine that you were espousing. Instead, you doubled down and accused the person who proved you wrong of preaching a "FALSE and PERVERTED" gospel. You were never open to anyone actually answering your challenge with anything of merit...and yet I came to you with scripture showing you that your contentions were wrong....I answered your challenge with biblical teaching and yet you did not ever accept that teaching but you doubled down and attacked the messenger ad hominem...which is a known faulty reasoning which nevertheless is very effective in the hands of the enemy.
As usual , verses that appear to be “ Bad News” for the Believers in the “ Good News” are either Taken out of Context or are NOT being addressed to the “ Body of Christ”, who can NEVER be put under Condemnation......are YOU a member Of that “ Body?”
Busy day today......I’ll return later to include your verses to that big pile of “ scary verses” that aren’t scary when “ rightly divided”...... sounds like you think some people who are “ in” Christ Jesus and are “ already Saved” because they Believe in Him and can NEVER Be CONDEMNED in fact, ARE condemned and are not really Saved after all....kinda like Jesus is a Liar....Im not buying that....see ya later.....
I think that you ought to consider what it says in passages like 2 Corinthians 13:5 and Matthew 7:21-23.
There are many who think that they are saved but who, in fact, are not saved. They may say to Jesus, Lord, Lord; but when it comes down to it they are workers of iniquity who have never been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. If they had been, they would have been sanctified over time and would have ceased from sinning. They would have ceased walking in the flesh and would have begun to walk consistently in the Spirit. They would have become this = 1 John 3:5-9.
Scary verses are meant to put the fear of the Lord in people.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom.
It is to hate evil.
You don't understand what I posted do you
I understood it just fine...however I felt that there was more to the issue than just what you posted.
