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Featured The Bodily Resurrection & Return Of Jesus, And Who Jesus Is In Islamic Eschatology

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by TRU434, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. TRU434

    TRU434 Member

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    Here is a short series on the bodily resurrection, ascension, and return of Jesus that I hope will be a blessing to you. The videos follow one another leading up to a Bible / Ahadith comparison (part 5) which reveals who Jesus is in Islamic eschatology and the major role Islam has to play in opposing Christ at His return.

    For whom it may concern, my YouTube channel is non-profit as you will see with no adverts or recent uploads. I only wish to share with you the things God has revealed to me. All glory to God.

    The Resurrection Uncovered - YouTube
     
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    Heart2Soul Well-Known Member

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    Hi stranger! Good to see you, it has been awhile...is this the same teaching as what you have posted before? I really enjoyed how you related the Quran in bible prophesy.....very well studied and well put together!
    I think I will watch it again!
     
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    @Heart2Soul Hi Sister, good to see you too. Yeah it's the same one you watched on the other forum website. It's the first time I have shared it here though (in its own thread anyway). Thank you, all glory to God. I just felt lead to share it tonight, I hope someone will be blessed by it.
     
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    Thank you for sharing...it blessed me. I will pray that for those who watch it will be thoroughly blessed by it!
     
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    Hi dear Brother TRU434, I have complete different thinking especially on the last video referring to Paul.

    To me Paul was saying that he was born of God ahead of his nation as we read in Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: . . .

    Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once?

    1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

    Blessings in Christ Jesus.
     
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    Hi brother, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. I did think the same as you for a while, until I looked at the Greek word used (ektrĊmati). Which is the word used to describe a baby born premature, killed by way of wounding (I.e. Abortion). And knowing from scripture that Jesus was disfigured and without form (like a premature baby), and also knowing that He was killed by way of wounding (like an abortion), I believe that it's possible Paul was describing the physical appearance of Jesus, who must have appeared to Paul in His physical body considering that Paul is testifying to the bodily resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15.

    I think both ways of interpreting this scripture are valid and could both be correct though.

    God bless you too.
     
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    I have a question....will Jesus bear the marks of His crucifixion forever and ever or will He get a glorified body after Satan is defeated once and for all?
     
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    So no wonder it is so hard to minister to those of that faith....and I was really surprised at how accurate the prophesies were in the Quran....So can a false prophet see future events and they come to pass....they would not be false prophets.....so that means that there can be real prophets who serve Satan?
     
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    Folks...

    God is spirit...and Jesus went "to the Father"...and that is the "like manner" in which the angel of the Lord said He would return - not in the flesh, but in the spirit, which is "the glory of the Father."

    "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is spirit." Jesus was "the First born of the spirit of God", and the born again (also born of the spirit of God) follow Him. Anyone who follows the flesh, follows another Jesus - not the Son of God (whom is not flesh, but spirit).

    Paul said that "to be [absent] from the body was to be present with the Lord", but "to live (in the world) is Christ." Because in the world the Son was the Christ, and we who are in the world and also born again of the spirit of God...we "are His [broken] body" - but "flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God"...which the Son has inherited. In heaven, the Son is not the Son of Man as He was when He came as the Christ, but is the Son of God, and God...whom "is spirit."

    These things are true. "Beware of those who teach any other gospel."
     
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    I think Satan knows the Bible very well, He's had a long time to study it. And I think he has used what he knows and twisted Bible prophecy to suit his agenda. Most of those prophecies in the Ahadith come from the Bible and extra-biblical texts, only the interpretation has been altered.
     
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    he did, huh
     
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    imo that is what forwarding a "Jesus, Returning" doctrine does wadr
    Return to Me and I will return to you
    if you can find it anywhere else lemme know k
     
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    I agree. I believe that Jesus had a body of flesh, a body of spirit, and a soul. I believe that his spirit body ascended to the Father when He said "Into Your hands I commit My Spirit", and that His soul left His physical body and descended to Hades. I believe that on the third day His soul returned to His physical body which was raised from the dead. I believe that His physical body then ascended to heaven after 40 days on earth, during which time He proved to His disciples that His resurrected body was physical "flesh and bones", bearing the wounds of the scourging and the cross.

    This is just my thinking, but I believe it's possible that Jesus' physical body was taken somewhere to be preserved for future use. God also took Enoch and Elijah, and we read in the book of Jude that Satan contended with the angel Michael for the body of Moses. We know from the transfiguration that Jesus will return with Moses and Elijah, therefore maybe all three of their physical bodies are being preserved somewhere out of space and time until their return. I believe it's possible that Jesus' soul left His physical body after the ascension and entered His Spiritual body in Heaven, and we get a detailed description of His Spiritual body in Revelation 1.
     
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    we know where the Body of Christ is already
    a few of us anyway
     
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    Tell us! :)
     
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    Fascinating, and good production value.

    I hadn't noticed Jesus was blinded in one eye in scripture until now. We don't see his disciples pointing that out, or scurged skin. I believe Jesus can appear as he wishes in the spirt body, and chooses to show his wounds as a reminder to us.

    To interpret the bible from the Quran is not right. It has some fanciful notions, like Muhammad riding a giant donkey. I guess the devil knows a good lie needs to be salted with a bit of truth and a dash of abserdity. He wouldn't know for sure how Jesus will return.
     
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    That is better, but still you are mixing the resurrection (Jesus' proof of power over life and death in the world) with His ascension, which is not in the "like manner" of the world and the flesh, but in the "like manner" of God whom is [only] spirit.

    You see, the future of God's children is not like that of the world, and the flesh is not "glorified" - but God is glorified, gaining many sons and daughters born of His spirit. This is not the resurrection, but the ascension into heaven, which pertains to the Son. The resurrection is only in the world, and the meaning of being "in Christ" and those who overcome the world with Him. But the ascension is completely of God and Holy - this is the Oneness of which Christ has prayed for, which is not a glorification of the flesh, but a rescue from it and a rebirth into the kingdom. In this way the two are as different as heaven and earth, but also how both become the kingdoms of the Lamb.
     
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    um, you are the Body of Christ!
    :D
     
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    oh, he knows for sure Jesus is not returning, bc he can read Scripture forrest
    unlike people i guess
    don't worry, He's not, that is being interpreted too literally, Christ starts out as the arm, and somehow ends up with a shrivelled arm, same thing going on @ "eye" ok, Christ is being referred to as God's "right" eye for a reason, and Jesus' literal right eye is irrelevant
    Hollywood good imo, ya
     
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