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Featured The Bodily Resurrection & Return Of Jesus, And Who Jesus Is In Islamic Eschatology

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by TRU434, Oct 10, 2018.

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    Hi stranger! Good to see you, it has been awhile...is this the same teaching as what you have posted before? I really enjoyed how you related the Quran in bible prophesy.....very well studied and well put together!
    I think I will watch it again!
     
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    Heart2Soul Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for sharing...it blessed me. I will pray that for those who watch it will be thoroughly blessed by it!
     
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    Hi dear Brother TRU434, I have complete different thinking especially on the last video referring to Paul.

    To me Paul was saying that he was born of God ahead of his nation as we read in Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: . . .

    Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once?

    1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

    Blessings in Christ Jesus.
     
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    Heart2Soul Well-Known Member

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    I have a question....will Jesus bear the marks of His crucifixion forever and ever or will He get a glorified body after Satan is defeated once and for all?
     
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    So no wonder it is so hard to minister to those of that faith....and I was really surprised at how accurate the prophesies were in the Quran....So can a false prophet see future events and they come to pass....they would not be false prophets.....so that means that there can be real prophets who serve Satan?
     
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    Folks...

    God is spirit...and Jesus went "to the Father"...and that is the "like manner" in which the angel of the Lord said He would return - not in the flesh, but in the spirit, which is "the glory of the Father."

    "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is spirit." Jesus was "the First born of the spirit of God", and the born again (also born of the spirit of God) follow Him. Anyone who follows the flesh, follows another Jesus - not the Son of God (whom is not flesh, but spirit).

    Paul said that "to be [absent] from the body was to be present with the Lord", but "to live (in the world) is Christ." Because in the world the Son was the Christ, and we who are in the world and also born again of the spirit of God...we "are His [broken] body" - but "flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God"...which the Son has inherited. In heaven, the Son is not the Son of Man as He was when He came as the Christ, but is the Son of God, and God...whom "is spirit."

    These things are true. "Beware of those who teach any other gospel."
     
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    he did, huh
     
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    imo that is what forwarding a "Jesus, Returning" doctrine does wadr
    Return to Me and I will return to you
    if you can find it anywhere else lemme know k
     
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    we know where the Body of Christ is already
    a few of us anyway
     
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    Tell us! :)
     
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    Fascinating, and good production value.

    I hadn't noticed Jesus was blinded in one eye in scripture until now. We don't see his disciples pointing that out, or scurged skin. I believe Jesus can appear as he wishes in the spirt body, and chooses to show his wounds as a reminder to us.

    To interpret the bible from the Quran is not right. It has some fanciful notions, like Muhammad riding a giant donkey. I guess the devil knows a good lie needs to be salted with a bit of truth and a dash of abserdity. He wouldn't know for sure how Jesus will return.
     
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    That is better, but still you are mixing the resurrection (Jesus' proof of power over life and death in the world) with His ascension, which is not in the "like manner" of the world and the flesh, but in the "like manner" of God whom is [only] spirit.

    You see, the future of God's children is not like that of the world, and the flesh is not "glorified" - but God is glorified, gaining many sons and daughters born of His spirit. This is not the resurrection, but the ascension into heaven, which pertains to the Son. The resurrection is only in the world, and the meaning of being "in Christ" and those who overcome the world with Him. But the ascension is completely of God and Holy - this is the Oneness of which Christ has prayed for, which is not a glorification of the flesh, but a rescue from it and a rebirth into the kingdom. In this way the two are as different as heaven and earth, but also how both become the kingdoms of the Lamb.
     
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    um, you are the Body of Christ!
    :D
     
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    oh, he knows for sure Jesus is not returning, bc he can read Scripture forrest
    unlike people i guess
    don't worry, He's not, that is being interpreted too literally, Christ starts out as the arm, and somehow ends up with a shrivelled arm, same thing going on @ "eye" ok, Christ is being referred to as God's "right" eye for a reason, and Jesus' literal right eye is irrelevant
    Hollywood good imo, ya
     
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    honest, he didn't, and if you tried to Quote that you would see
     
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    Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
    Revelation 1:7 KJV
     
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    2 Corinthians 5:8
    We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
     
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    I am....but I do not bear the marks of His crucifixion.
     
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    old age "comes" (with clouds, even) too i guess, no shuvu in there
    "every eye" is code for a single-eyed perspective, rather than the most pop 2 eyed one we are...wallowing in here
    if they also which pierced Him can see Him coming then you have timing probs, but of course there is a well-worn worm trail for that
    and all the kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him, hmm, what could that mean do you think

    plus that's Rev, and we know where Christ is Revved now right, so that is not really being honored either imo
    instead we all got our Crystal Balls out right, giving lots of thought for the morrow, etc
    bc that's what Jesus told us to do right
    right
     
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