The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

[Truther]

As usual – you didn’t address my last post where I asked you - What happens when they sinned AFTER they were Baptized??
Do they do what I see a lot of Protestants do and get RE-Baptized??

Why don’t YOU obey Christ??
What do YOU think Jesus was doing in John 20:21-23??

No, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is for the remission of one's sins.

This makes us dead to sin per water baptism.

Which remission is not found in a confessional booth.

There is one mediator, not 2(Jesus and the RCC clergy).

The RCC snookered you on this one.

 

[BreadOfLife]

They make vows.

So, what happens if they break their vows to the entities involved...problems.

What happens to the priest that breaks his vow?.....the bishop's boot.

The priest is stuck in his situation, just wishing he could be with a woman(sometimes same sex), but the bishop is watching him closely.

Losing one's job and health insurance is at stake.....to remain celibate.

So, what happens I if a Cop breaks his pledge/vow to protect and serve the public?
What happens to him?? Loss of job and health insurance??
Was he “forced” to protect and serve – or did he choose that life?

What happens to a soldier who breaks his vow/pledge and becomes a traitor to the other side?
Does he get into trouble?? Loss of benefits/wages?? Imprisonment??
Was he “forced” to serve his country – or did he choose that life?

Your asinine arguments are dead in the water . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is for the remission of one's sins.

This makes us dead to sin per water baptism.

Which remission is not found in a confessional booth.

There is one mediator, not 2(Jesus and the RCC clergy).

The RCC snookered you on this one.

Sooooooo, you’re one of those quasi-Christians who believe that you no longer sin?
The Bible says you’re a liar and the truth is not in you (1 John 1:8).

Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit -
- John admitted to sinning - AFTER being born again (1 John 1:8).
- Paul admitted to sinning - AFTER being born again (Rom. 7:15-25).
- James says that we sin - AFTER being born again (James 5:16).

But YOU say you have no sin?

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is for the remission of one's sins.

This makes us dead to sin per water baptism.

Which remission is not found in a confessional booth.

There is one mediator, not 2(Jesus and the RCC clergy).

The RCC snookered you on this one.

By the way - THANK YOU for your posts.
It's never been this easy to expose such Scriptual ignorance.

 

[Truther]

By the way - THANK YOU for your posts.
It's never been this easy to expose such Scriptual ignorance.

Acts 2:38 is not for the remission of sins anymore, but going to the black box replaced it?

 

[Truther]

Sooooooo, you’re one of those quasi-Christians who believe that you no longer sin?
The Bible says you’re a liar and the truth is not in you (1 John 1:8).

Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit -
- John admitted to sinning - AFTER being born again (1 John 1:8).
- Paul admitted to sinning - AFTER being born again (Rom. 7:15-25).
- James says that we sin - AFTER being born again (James 5:16).

But YOU say you have no sin?

No, Acts 2:38 is where remission came into my life. Jesus' sacrifice was applied to me as an atonement as I was baptized by immersion in his name.
This erased my guilt, giving me a clean conscience before God.

You should try it, rather that running to the black box every Saturday to get it off your chest.

 

[Truther]

So, what happens I if a Cop breaks his pledge/vow to protect and serve the public?
What happens to him?? Loss of job and health insurance??
Was he “forced” to protect and serve – or did he choose that life?

What happens to a soldier who breaks his vow/pledge and becomes a traitor to the other side?
Does he get into trouble?? Loss of benefits/wages?? Imprisonment??
Was he “forced” to serve his country – or did he choose that life?

Your asinine arguments are dead in the water . . .

You made my case.

The same happens to the priest....jobless.

All are forced by some other man to be good.

The RCC "castrates" it's priests into submission.

Poor guys, if they only read the Bible.

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, Acts 2:38 is where remission came into my life. Jesus' sacrifice was applied to me as an atonement as I was baptized by immersion in his name.
This erased my guilt, giving me a clean conscience before God.

You should try it, rather that running to the black box every Saturday to get it off your chest.

Baptism cleanses you from all of your past sins – not your future sins.
As I schooled you earlier – 1 John 1 8 talks about people like YOU who claim they no longer sin:

1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is NOT in us.

 

[Truther]

In your usual cowardly fashion, you didn't address the questions in my last post:

Is a married woman “forced” too be monogamous - OR, does she understand that this is part of her VOWS - before she gets married??

Is a police office “forced” to uphold the law – OR is this something they VOW to do??

Are ANY of the presidential candidates being “forced” to protect and defend this country should they become president – OR, is that a VOW that they will make??

Why are you so afraid to answer these questions??

None of these entities you mentioned deny them sex.
The RCC unscripturally denies their priests to have sex.
This is a radical, non Biblical idea with terrible consequences.
The RCC is finally feeling those consequences for being unscriptural.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You made my case.

The same happens to the priest....jobless.

All are forced by some other man to be good.

The RCC "castrates" it's priests into submission.

Poor guys, if they only read the Bible.

THANK YOU again for your posts.
Moronic would be an understatement, but I LOVE an easy task . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

None of these entities you mentioned deny them sex.
The RCC unscripturally denies their priests to have sex.
This is a radical, non Biblical idea with terrible consequences.
The RCC is finally feeling those consequences for being unscriptural.

So, to YOU - sex is the most important thing in life.
Funny, Jesus and Paul didn't think so . . .

 

[Truther]

Baptism cleanses you from all of your past sins – not your future sins.
As I schooled you earlier – 1 John 1 8 talks about people like YOU who claim they no longer sin:

1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is NOT in us.

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.


He put away sin.

Why are your priests pulling them out of yesterdays closets?

Aren't you guys into Jesus' sacrifice?

 

[Truther]

So, to YOU - sex is the most important thing in life.
Funny, Jesus and Paul didn't think so . . .

No, it is a natural tendency.

The priests are not Paul or Jesus.

They are quite the fella's to the contrary.

 

[Truther]

THANK YOU again for your posts.
Moronic would be an understatement, but I LOVE an easy task . . .

Don't tell me they forced you into sexless misery too!

 

[Truther]

Don't tell me they forced you into sexless misery too!

See that pic?

It is my grandson.

Poor priests, not having grandkids because the RCC demands they don't(cold blooded RCC decree).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Don't tell me they forced you into sexless misery too!

Nope, I'm a father.
If sex is the most important thing in life to you - I pray you're not . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, it is a natural tendency.

The priests are not Paul or Jesus.

They are quite the fella's to the contrary.

They strive to imitate Christ as we are ALL called to do (Eph.
5:1) . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.


He put away sin.

Why are your priests pulling them out of yesterdays closets?

Aren't you guys into Jesus' sacrifice?

This verse doesn’t mean that you no longer sin, Einstein.
It means that we Christians have an “out”, which is Christ.

As I educated you earlier –
- Paul admits to sinning (Rom. 7:15-25).
- John admits to sinning (1 John 1:8).
- James tells us that we still sin (James 5:16).

Only YOU are arrogant enough to believe that you are “above” them.

You make it soooooo easy . . . .

 

[justbyfaith]

YOU have invented another god before Him who created you Good luck with that . . .

What I have done is searched the scriptures to find out what the Trinity is all about...and derived my understanding of God and the Trinity from the holy scriptures.

Sooooooo, you’re one of those quasi-Christians who believe that you no longer sin?
The Bible says you’re a liar and the truth is not in you (1 John 1:8).

Actually, 1 John 1:8 speaks of those who say that they have no sin...which is different from saying that we do not sin.

Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit -

- John admitted to sinning - AFTER being born again (1 John 1:8).

1 John 1:8 was not an admission by John to committing practical sin in his present life at that time. It was him saying that he was indwelt by the element of sin.

- Paul admitted to sinning - AFTER being born again (Rom. 7:15-25).

Romans 7:14-25 is Paul using the literary tactic of IDENTIFICATION to define carnality. 1 Corinthians 9:22 shows forth Paul's reasoning for using this tactic. But 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 tells us that there are two types...carnal and spiritual. And I believe that 2 Peter 1:21 shows clearly that Paul was not carnal but spiritual when he penned the holy scriptures in Romans 7:14-25.

- James says that we sin - AFTER being born again (James 5:16).

James 5:16 does not preclude that there is no second benefit (see 2 Corinthians 1:15; 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24, Hebrews 10:14, 1 John 3:9) in which a man is wholly sanctified (see also 1 John 3:7, 1 John 3:3, 1 John 2:6; Jude 1:24, 2 Peter 1:10, 1 John 2:10).

But YOU say you have no sin?

That is not what he said.

Baptism cleanses you from all of your past sins – not your future sins.

We are indeed forgiven of past, present, and future sins (Romans 4:8, Romans 8:38-39, Hebrews 9:12) when we come to faith in Christ.

Moronic would be an understatement,

There's that fruit again that I love to see in you.

 

[justbyfaith]

...being justified by grace...

...being justified by grace...