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here you once again make Creation into a curse, and affirm curse the day i was born, etc, which is def a valid perspective for a legal Job type guy to have, don't get me wrong, but then he confessed and rebounded from his words, right
But [you can] change your mind in real time! I explained that:
You certainly can interpret it that way. But when you die...you will see that it is not the world that has passed away, but that prison within you called the world...where you have done...your time. That heaven and earth will surely pass. But it is also the ground you stand upon, and the new heaven and the new earth are [as God] spirit.
No, Job did not rescind his comment on being cursed, but yielded to God in His greater long term knowledge and plans for him and for mankind.
don't remem saying that, and not denying that in some tomorrow that won't be true again either, for us, in our domain. if the kingdom of heaven comes to earth, then notime comes too right
i read that a lot less literally, i guess; the "souls" must have existed, to be known, yes, like a parent knows the souls of their children. And i gotta believe that in the same manner a mother may accurately predict the outcome of a certain child's activity or undertaking based upon the child's disposition and character, even if she maybe could not predict every single detail, this is the "knowing the end from the beginning" of God too imo. Otherwise could God be characterized as "being sorry" that He had done something?
ha, better let me read that lol, yesterday has passed away too...
again, same deal, i read that dogs are timeless too though, see. When you always reside in now mentally, and would not even consider making plans for tomorrow, saying you will go to such and such a town to do such and such a thing, you are timeless
and how does this perspective bear fruit for you. ha see, we are looping again, and i am not going to get an answer to this viq right
no? hmm Hitler has gone on to everlasting shame and contempt, right
No again, hmm. Job repented of his speech, how do you know
hey "the bed is too short, and the blanket is too small" too lol, these are not true, they are our false perceptions, Scott.
Jesus told us that it "has" come. But "we who are alive and remain" walk as one "who has one foot on the land, and one on the sea", meaning that we walk in both the physical and the spiritual realms.
Gods grace extends to all men even teh like of Stalin and Hitler, and when you know teh Lord, you can only hope that the enemy has not even one in his prison at teh end, for Gods sake.
I understand, but relating one parable by considering another is only so good. It doesn't truly explain the "subject" of the parable, it just give an example that has nothing to do with the subject, but expresses the principle of the parable with a completely unrelated "object." In other words, all you have done above is give another worldly example, while the "subject" is not even about the world.
No, because the scriptures don't just establish that time is "passing away", the also establish the there is an "end." So your argument or reasoning is not valid.
No, that describes things within the world, not how the world works within the context of God's eternity. In other words, you have to separate the two, apply there own laws separately, then consider how they fit together. As it is, you are just mixing your limited understanding of both, and using one against the other to defend what you don't know.
If you have a question you believe is unanswered, it is not that I have not answered, but rather that the answer did not compute. The only thing that I can recommend is that you try to expand your horizon to include what you may not yet have a grasp of. For instance, if you were to considered that you do not believe what you are hearing, but like a movie or other context within another context, i.e., a fishbowl, etc....that instead of arguing every point of a fishbowl, you might at least realize that life may in fact be bigger than your fishbowl understanding and your issues with the idea of an ocean that don't fit into the fishbowl model...and receive it, even if only hypothetically, at least until you have all the information. Which, if you are lucky, will happen before you die and find yourself waking up in the ocean you could not allow yourself to imagine.
imagine replying to the part that matters, part A, and disregarding the part that answering part A would render moot
That is true, we don't need to go anywhere...and in fact we have not, nor have the scriptures, been talking about a "place."
