The general idea is that after you've told me something, I say it back to you without response, just saying what you've said in my own words. If I get it wrong, you can point out where, and correct me. Then I say it back again, and we repeat until I can tell you what you are saying, without criticism or judgment, correctly. Then we both know I understand. And then we can go on to discuss it.
Actually, I think I agree with you completely. We are from a dead humanity, and we have been transfered into the living Christ. Total circumcision!
Circumcision of the heart is, I think, accomplished by our justification. In our death in Christ, we are forever separated from our past sins, and from our corrupted flesh. And in our resurrection in Christ, we are recreated a new being, the spirit child of God, who is now in God's very pattern, righteous, and truly holy, and so will never be charged with sin.
What remains for us is that our minds be renewed to think according to this new reality. God may well use unpleasant means to facilitate this. He may just tap us that we live in faith that always overcomes, or He may leave us to learn a long and slow way, and He may do both in season.
The accountability that you seek . . . this is Jesus in my life. We are now alive unto God, a two edged sword, but wonderful if we really understand it.
Your thoughts?
Much love!
Well, I appreciate that you ask me for my thoughts on this issue, and here they are:
I think that you're making the Holy Work of Christ far more difficult to understand than it needs to be. The Work of Christ is as follows.
1. - Lifts the Curse of Adam and Eve - The Actual Circumcision
2. - Send the gift of the Holy Spirit, a Holy Deposit that guarantees Salvation
3. - Pays the debt for Salvation, once and for all
That's it. God (who is the Ancient One, Christ) lifts the Curse to whomever and whenever. He's been lifting the Curse since the beginning, for there is no other way to follow God unless the Curse is gone. Also in the Old Testament, we see plenty of "Godly" people, such as all the Patriarchs. What is unique about the Work of Christ is that now, no one has to wait for Jesus's Resurrection to pay for sins, as did the men and women who lived and died before Christ.
Romans 3:25-26 NLT - "For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that
God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for
he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness,
for he himself is fair and just, and he declares sinners to be right in his sight when they believe in Jesus."
So even though the men and women of the Old Days had their Sin Nature removed, and given the gift of the Holy Spirit (as a temporary Guide - as it seems), they still had to wait for Christ. Think about Samuel and where he came from when Saul summoned him. From above or below? Yep . . . below, so we know that all Godly men were in some sort of holding tank, if you will, and had to wait for Christ to be given the chance to believe in him, and have their sins paid for. The Curse was already lifted, but the penalty for their sins had not been paid for.
Matthew 27:50-53 NLT - "Then Jesus shouted out again, and he released his spirit. 51 At that moment the curtain in the sanctuary of the Temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. The earth shook, rocks split apart, 52 and
tombs opened. The bodies of many
godly men and women who had died were raised from the dead. 53 They left the cemetery
after Jesus' resurrection, went into the holy city of Jerusalem, and appeared to many people."
What I have just provided to you . . . you're not going to get anywhere else, especially in a church. Why? Because pastors are keeping us "sick" and unsaved so that the money keeps pouring in.
So, it is possible to have a purified heart yet still exist with the dept for sin unpaid. Big deal, right!? A debt is a debt and no debt makes a person corrupt . . . it is just a debt. So this is why men and women of Old had to wait for Christ.
But as we find in the Old Testament, God calls for us to "Circumcise our Hearts to the Lord!" But, what makes this a hidden teaching is we cannot do it on our own accord . . . that is the role of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Deuteronomy 10:16 KJV - "Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked."
But like I said, we can't do that on our own. Therefore, the passage above means that we are to turn to God for this lifting of the Curse, as God is the only one that can do so. The below passage is still in Deuteronomy, and it shows clearly that God will perform this Holy Operation of Circumcision.
Deuteronomy 30:6 KJV - "And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live."
We can't Love God with all our Heart, soul, and live if we still possess that Curse. So God lifts it and for many, He gave the Indwelling Holy Spirit. But . . . that debt can only be paid for by Christ.
My friend . . . I beg of you to consider all of these passages and to view the ENTIRE Bible in light of what I have just written. If you were to print out this tiny little presentation, and then began to re-read the entire Bible in a timeline, chronological order . . . your entire Biblical world and Life will change. I promise you!
I beg you to do so. Please, there is nothing more important in this Life and in this ugly world than to grasp this teaching that the Bible so clearly displays. I don't know why our Powerful God has allowed me to see this, but I assure you that if you and I could sit down face to face and talk, I know 100% that you would see what I am seeing. Please . . . I beg of you. You can use any translation . . . it doesn't matter. This Heart of the Bible teaching is in every Glorious Bible that has ever been seriously written.
If you really want to understand the Doctrine of Circumcised Hearts, I posted a video of which I am the author and creator of it all. It's somewhere here on the site, but I don't know how to find it . . . as of yet. It is a 46-minute video that explains everything very well (in my opinion.) If you cannot find it, I'll provide you with a YouTube link.
