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Featured The word, "Doctrine"

Discussion in 'Bible Study Forum' started by Willie T, Jul 29, 2019.

  1. "ByGrace"

    "ByGrace" Well-Known Member

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    Amen!!! Agree a thousand % :D Clearly said.

    I have come to almost hate the word Doctrine....and all it stands for today.
    It has become a control tool in the hands of the legalists.

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  2. bbyrd009

    bbyrd009 Groper

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    they are still putting meat and milk on diff fridge shelves for God's sake
    lol pls
     
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    marks Well-Known Member

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    You know, @Willie T ,

    This thread does make me take notice that the word "doctrine" is in disfavor by many, and that's a word to the wise!

    Much love!
     
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  4. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

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    Hi BG,

    What men it white beards do you speak of?

    Curious Mary
     
  5. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    I am enjoying this thread
     
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  6. Stranger

    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    The author of this writing is just as guilty as those he is accusing. He is just emphasizing knowing God by the Spirit, at the expense of the truth. Yes, of course Jesus is the Truth. That doesn't mean we do not have the written truth also.

    Whether you want to call it 'doctrine' or 'teachings', what does it matter? It speaks to the same thing. Jesus Himself had a doctrine. (John 7:16-17) "Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself."

    So, just because you as a believer want to declare that you have 'no doctrine' but Jesus, that doesn't somehow make you all spiritual. It does mean you probably ignore the written Word.

    Jesus didn't ignore the written Word. (Matt. 4:4,7,10). And as we already saw, He had a doctrine. For some reason people want to believe that if you have a doctrine then you must not be spiritual. If you have a doctrine then you must be ignoring the Person of Jesus Christ. How silly. We can know God only by the Spirit and Truth. Not by Spirit only. Not by the written Word only. Both are involved.

    (John 4:24) "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

    Stranger
     
  7. Willie T

    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    "A Doctrine"?????? What is that??
     
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    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    You presented this thread. Did you do so in ignorance???????

    Stranger
     
  9. Willie T

    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    I'm learning that if you are involved, everything becomes ignorance.
     
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    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    Yet you give ignorant statements. Why??????

    Stranger
     
  11. Willie T

    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    I made a thread about the meaning of a word. You tried to make that word into a "concept."
     
  12. Stranger

    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    Oh gee, that's deep stuff. You feigned ignorance about 'doctrine'. Now you claim to know the difference between 'doctrine' and a 'concept'. See what happens when you are being dishonest?

    So, what is it? Do you know or do you not. Are you ignorant, or are you not?

    I called you on 'doctrine'. You crawfished by claiming some ignorance. So, what is it?

    Stranger
     
  13. Jay Ross

    Jay Ross Well-Known Member

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    @Willie T

    Please forgive a man of understanding who love to argue for the sake of arguing since he believes his teaching/doctrine is worthy of him.

    Shalom
     
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  14. "ByGrace"

    "ByGrace" Well-Known Member

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    Oswald Chambers said :-

    It is possible to know all about doctrine and still not know Jesus.
    A person’s soul is in grave danger when 'the knowledge of doctrine' surpasses Jesus, avoiding the intimate touch with Him.
    Why was Mary weeping at the tomb?
    Doctrine meant no more to her than the grass under her feet. In fact, any Pharisee could have made a fool of Mary doctrinally, but one thing they could never ridicule was the fact that Jesus had cast seven demons out of her, yet that blessings were nothing to her in comparison with knowing Jesus Himself. “…she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, and did not know that it was Jesus….Jesus said to her, ‘Mary!’ ” John 20.
    Once He called Mary by her name, she immediately knew that she had a personal history with the One who spoke.

    Good word and true.
     
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    She is thinking about theologians and possibly the Early Church Fathers (although many did not have white beards). And having a beard has no relevance to the subject. There was a time when all men wore beards, and they are now back in vogue.

    Now had she mentioned Black Beard the Pirate, you could say he had no clue about Bible doctrine.:D
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    Heart2Soul Well-Known Member

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    This is a deeper truth than most can comprehend. You really nailed it... it is all about Jesus. Thank you for sharing this.
     
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    The Lord Jesus is 'full of grace and truth' (John 1.14).
     
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    Marymog Well-Known Member

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    Hi Enoch,

    I don't disagree with you that is who @"ByGrace" was talking about. HOWEVER there have been MANY theologians over the last 2,000 years with differing rules/beliefs/interpretations/teachings etc. who started their owne "church" sooooooo I am interested if she has any specific names in mind!!

    So to be more precise in my question TO @"ByGrace": What are the names of the old men with white beards that have decided for everyone else for the rest of time who make ridged rules and doctrine? Who decides what is or is not a true teaching? Which of those men are "the problem"?

    If ALL "old men" are "the problem" and do not have a "true teaching" then who decides what is a "true teaching"? Me? You?

    Curious Mary
     
  19. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    Do you have any doctrines you adhere to that support your core beliefs?

    Who decides what are to be the "sound doctrines" spoken of in Scripture? (1 Timothy 4:6; 6:3, Titus 2:1) Who decides the doctrines that we may all agree with one so we can fulfill Scripture? (1 Corinthians 1:10)

    Mary
     
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  20. Heart2Soul

    Heart2Soul Well-Known Member

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    The whole Word of God is what I stand on allowing the Holy Spirit to guide me and teach me into all truth.
     
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