I'm not sure what point you are trying to make but just as I said, the day of birth is obvious. Eve did not likely know when the baby was conceived.
This NEEDS to End!
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You continue to grasp at straws. And tell me, why does no one (you in particular) want to answer the question - when does a baby become a human being?
Because that's what the passage says? I'm not understanding what your question is?
The passage is easy to understand, they "knew" each other, the child was born. She didn't say the Lord gave her a child until after the child was born. She was pregnant for nine months, why not say this while she was pregnant?
That's not what it says. It says the Lord forms us in the womb, it does not say life begins at the formation process.
And what about all those generations beginning at birth, did you have an answer for that one?
So a baby does not become a human being until it is breathing on its own? In other words the baby can be killed at any time before the doctor slaps it on the ass.
Simon of Cyrene...
Oh it's definitely scripture. The Via De la Crusa is all you really need to know to understand...that and Cyrene's chief export was Abortifacient...Simon was picked up in the premier spot of the spice market.
Oh it's exactly as I've said it is...with bells on baby!
This breathing on its own argument could save the country a lot of $. If one has to be breathing on their own to be considered a human being then we could just execute those people on ventilators or oxygen.
It does not say anywhere in the Bible that it was referring to the child after it was born when they were talking about people having children. They were just talking about children in general and now you're just making assumptions.
Stop making assumptions!!
(I mean you can make them but stop passing them off as truth!!) Btw it's knit not nitt lol as I'm correcting myself now. Oh and here's the verse for everybody else. Psalms 139:13It doesn't I already stated that it was my own personal opinion.
I wonder if Mary had the very first gender reveal party.
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Ultimately in God's plan is not the whole purpose of conception to produce another person? In God's plan was not every person to be formed already present in the mind and plan of God? At what point is it OK for man to decide which way to go or not? God gave man the choice, but there are only two choices, God's Way or the way of mammon. Would way then are abortions going to be of those two?
"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." Jerem 10:23
Who is to direct us rightly?
Some may say that abortion is not murder if the child is not fully a child yet, but whether we put the name, murder, on it or not, to whom does that living thing, that fertilized egg, or fetus, or child growing within any woman belong? Do any of us belong to ourselves or do we not rather belong to God and are at best stewards over whatever He has provided us with including our own physical bodies... until and if we ever actually inherit? That thing, or fertilized egg, or fetus or child also, as I see it, belongs to God. It is part of the mother's stewardship. What kind of steward are we? What does it take for a steward to become a child of God? The child of God then is an heir, but still Not an owner. Only when the child inherits does he own...
The Plan is God's! The people are God's! The things are God's! They only become ours if and when as heirs we actually inherit?
Some may say that abortion is not be murder, but what is our reward for poor stewardship? What is our reward for disobedience? What is our result if we choose to walk in our own way instead of according to God's will? What is God's will for that growing living thing within a woman?
"And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers." Luke 12:42-46
Ultimately in God's plan is not the whole purpose of conception to produce another person? In God's plan was not every person to be formed already present in the mind and plan of God? At what point is it OK for man to decide which way to go or not? God gave man the choice, but there are only two choices, God's Way or the way of mammon. Would way then are abortions going to be of those two?
"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." Jerem 10:23
Who is to direct us rightly?
Some may say that abortion is not murder if the child is not fully a child yet, but whether we put the name, murder, on it or not, to whom does that living thing, that fertilized egg, or fetus, or child growing within any woman belong? Do any of us belong to ourselves or do we not rather belong to God and are at best stewards over whatever He has provided us with including our own physical bodies... until and if we ever actually inherit? That thing, or fertilized egg, or fetus or child also, as I see it, belongs to God. It is part of the mother's stewardship. What kind of steward are we? What does it take for a steward to become a child of God? The child of God then is an heir, but still Not an owner. Only when the child inherits does he own...
The Plan is God's! The people are God's! The things are God's! They only become ours if and when as heirs we actually inherit?
Some may say that abortion is not be murder, but what is our reward for poor stewardship? What is our reward for disobedience? What is our result if we choose to walk in our own way instead of according to God's will? What is God's will for that growing living thing within a woman?
"And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers." Luke 12:42-46
I wonder if Mary had the very first gender reveal party.
She and Elizabeth both did...
Must have missed that part in the Bible lol I feel bad for John the Baptist though. Jesus gets a whole entire holiday for His birthday. Poor James as well lol
That's not what I said, first of all calm down, I never said it's ok to go out and get abortions, my argument is that it's not murder. It's still wrong and it's still interfering with the Lord's creation process.
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