David in NJ
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The most important thing is(always) "It is written"In Ephesians, the apostle Paul explained this “mystery” as:
In addition, Paul said:
The seventh angel is the one who has the last bowl or vial judgment.
While my chronology (Which I created a while back) did place Christ’s return at the end of the sixth bowl judgment, I do see the possibility that the LORD Jesus could come after the seventh bowl judgment on account of the mystery being revealed here in that it is Christ returning (bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head). The thunderings in both Revelation 10, and in Revelation 19 is God the Father’s voice speaking (See John 12:27-29). The angel in Revelation 10 is said by some to be Jesus, and while there are some good points for this, I don’t believe this is so because this angel swears by a name that refers to Jesus (Revelation 10:6).
Revelation 6-10 appears to be sequential and it begins sometime after the middle of the tribulation.
Revelation 11 appears to rewind back in time in the chronology at the final last 42 months (picking back up from sometime after the Middle of the Tribulation), and it ends with Jesus Christ coming in Revelation 19. Revelation 20-22 are the next epochs and important events in time (After the Tribulation and Christ’s return).
Note: I am open to the possibility that the 4th seal (death, i.e. The Antichrist killing a good majority of the people on the planet) could be longer than what Christians expect. It is possible that this event lasts a year or even longer before the 5th seal is opened (With the saints crying out for justice in having been recently martyred by the Antichrist in the 4th seal). Besides the 144,000, and the two witnesses, the point here is that the saints will not experience the period of God’s Wrath (or the Day of the Lord) which starts with the Trumpet Judgment and ends with Christ returning and with the Earth eventually being purified by fire. God’s people are not appointed unto wrath. That’s the problem I have with Post-Trib. So it’s not even really the timing so much but it is about the inappropriate punishment of God’s people (When God said they are not appointed unto Wrath). I do see the possibility that the 6th-7th seal (Which releases the Trumpet Judgment - i.e. the Wrath of God) could happen in the last few months or even the last month before Christ’s return. That’s not an issue for me. That certainly is a possibility (Based on what I know of Scripture). But what is not possible is God’s people not being protected from His Wrath.
JESUS said "Immediately after the Tribulation...."
Now, as you have been successfully pointing out is that "after the tribulation" is determined by the LORD as we see in Revelation.
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When we combine that with God promising "we are not appointed to His wrath" then we REST in Christ and allow the Scripture to lead our thought process.
Where people go off track is when they 'add to God's words' and also 'take away from God's words' in order to establish pre-trib rapture.
This results in:
a.) rapture occurring BEFORE the Second Coming
b.) falsely saying that there are multiple Second Comings of Christ
c.) multiple raptures occurring BEFORE the Resurrection
d.) outright denying "it is written" by saying they will not see or experience the Antichrist and his Mark
e.) separating Jew from Gentile in Christ and thus going against the "One New Man in Christ"