Your turn.
Who are yours?
Do you remember the Biblical story where God sent one prophet to challenge many prophets and he demonstrated that the many prophets could not do what he did or said.
What is false is that you claim that the kingdoms and empires that had dominion over the land of Babylon are the same entities' that are spoken about in Daniel 7 and 8.
We know from history that the Roman Empire had no dominion over the land of the Babylon as the land of Babylon had been desolated, i.e., it had no people living within the boundaries of the land of Babylon, and the Land of Babylon had been devastated by the Seleucid Greek Empire who had dismantled all of the utility structures, loaded them on to carts and transported them into all of the regions of the Seleucid empires back home. It was not until 1926 AD that the fourth segment of the Statue Prophecy was revealed and remembered by God to receive His wrath for what they had done.
In Revelations 9 we have locust like creatures that first rise up out of the Bottomless Pit and the description given of them is that of very ancient humans: -
Revelation 9:7-11: - 7 The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. 8 They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. 9 And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle. 10 They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months. 11 And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.
This description of the locusts sounds like the description of the judged kings of the earth at Armageddon, who will be imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years. Their hair had continued to grow and had not been cut during the 1,000 years of their imprisonment such that they had long hair like a woman and likewise their teeth had not been ground down and where long like the teeth of a lion after their imprisonment in the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years.
In Isiaih 24:21-22, Isaiah describes the judgement of the heavenly hosts in heaven as well as the kings of the earth on the earth and together they will be imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit in our near future at the end of this present age for many days to await the time of their punishment.
In Revelations 11:7, 13 and 17:8 we are told that the Beasts all arise up out of the Bottomless pit or earth. In Revelation 13:1-10 the beast is an amalgamation of the first four beast of Daniel 7:1-12 who rise up to act as a single entity/beast in unison. Then in Revelation 13:11-17, it tells us that the Little Horn will rise up out of the earth/Bottomless Pit.
Logically, if we consider Isaiah 24:21-22 then the entities that will be imprisoned in the pit for many days are heavenly host, initially described in Daniel 7:2 as the four winds of heaven, which Paul describes as in Ephesians 6:12: " . . . against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms" who are none other than the Angels that joined Satan when he rebelled against God and the kings of the earth who lent their armies to the Little Horn to trample God's sanctuary and His earthly hosts over a period of 2,300 years.
Therefore, the beasts are fallen rebelling heavenly host, i.e., angels, who can exercise their influence over people, people groups, nations , kingdoms and empires such that what rises up out of the sea is a manifestation of the respective beasts dominate characteristic. These manifestations rise up and collapse repeatedly which is what we see within our worldly domain. Examples of this is the Medes Persians empire who had dominion over the earth for a time, the Grecian Empire who had dominion over the earth for a time, initially with Alexandra the Great and then when he died, his empire was divided into four separate empires and these four horns that grew up in place of the single horn that was broken.
This was what is recorded in Daniel 8:8: - "Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven." Notice the reference to the four winds of heaven in Daniel 8:8 who are the same four winds of heaven referred to in Daniel 7:2.
So just with scripture, I can debunk the Reformation's understanding of who and what, the beasts of Daniel 7 and 8 as they are wicked fallen heavenly hosts who influence people to manifest their dominate characteristic on the respective beasts behalf.
Now my poor deluded fellow can you quote scripture to back up your claim, or do you still want to rely on the Reformation father's understanding that was formulated to demonise the RCC during the period of the reformation.
Walking with God and using His scriptures is all the support that I need.
Goodbye.
