Wrangler
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Sounds completely wrong as this is NOT what we do.....nor are we encouraged to do that.
The wrong is on the part of the JW Elders sensing coercive squads. The wrong is not in my SIL telling the story.
Not sure about this either....? Why would he miss his HS graduation to get married?
This is not the fault of the JW Elders. He wanted to consummate his relationship with his fiance as soon as possible. So, he chose to get married at the time his HS class was having their graduation ceremony.
This sounds completely weird to me.....what standard did he fail to meet?
I’m sorry for what happened to him but it doesn’t ring true for me.....something is very wrong with this story.
I don't recall what standard he failed to meet but I think it had to do with his wife filing for divorce.
I would be interested to hear what he has to say actually.
Have you ever talked to a trauma victim? Until you have the experience it is hard to convey. Years ago some neighborhood boys I knew well were in my basement at 4 AM. My wife was about to go to work and let the dogs out. From the woods, these terrified 10-11 yo boys ran to the light terrified of gun shots from an argument between one of the boys older brother and their dad.
When the police arrived they treated the boys with appopriate kid gloves, saying matter of factly that they are going to need the boys to make a written statement. I retorted that they may not be able to give a coherent statement. The police officer did a double take. Why did I say that?
In the 45 minutes before the police arrived I listened to 4 traumaized 10 yo. The story they told was fragmented and highly nonlinear. One traumatic experience led them back and forth to other traumatic experiences. The boys were incapable of conveying what happened in chronological order. One said he almost threw up. Another said he DID throw up. I knew the boys for years. They came to my back yard fire pit 100's of times. I took them fishing and on hikes too. And I knew what was important at that time was to be a compassionate, patient, male that would not leave them in their hour of need. I offered them milk. They took it. I offered them something to eat. They were too upset to eat.
They fragmented, incoherent way of talking about an even is indicative of people who are traumatized. And this is how my SIL and his family members no longer JW talk about their experiences. One cousin said when they get together, they cannot help but relay and relive the trauma. So, don't think for one minute that I have some comprehensive report to provide to you. I know it is frustrating for you not to have the whole story.
Yes...after hearing all the evidence...not just one side of a story...right?
Moving the goal posts there sister! The point was about accepting testimony as true can ONLY happen if one is NOT an eye witness to.
Which half...the ones who support him, or the ones who no longer treat him like a brother, because he isn’t?
Sadly, the answer is that the JW Elders sent intimadation squads to both halves of his family; the half that were still practicing members, to reinfornce the shunning, breaking precedence in inviting him to family functions, as they had for 30 years; and the half that were recently disfellowshipped themselves. They were specifically warned "not to be a bad influence on him' at a dangerous or precarious time in his journey.
I’m sorry but there is so much wrong with this story......perhaps things are getting lost in translation or in transmission?
No ma'am. Just because you do not believe the story does not mean it is not true.