What is the purpose of Grace?

[amigo de christo]

Yes...as in He will grant some to be hid in the Cleft of the Rock. The Rock that was cleft/split that we may find refuge/hide in His side, His flesh torn, the veil torn in twain. There is no salvation/rescue in any other way.

almost always epi ignores my posts .
NOW you go and read the one post he all of a sudden decided to answer
AND YOU SEE again what he wrote . I told you dear dear sister , THAT I KNOW what inclusvims teaches .
And epi was and is an admitted inclusivain . THEY beleive teh LIE sister . THE LIE
and that lie is gonna merge EVERY false religoin with the decieved of christendom .
And all of it be of anti christ and its peace plan .
You see epi aint the only incluisivian , pope francis was and scores of others are . and many
do not or may not even realize they are , BUT are being led right into it .
The key leaders of false religoins have been teaching it
the key leaders of Christenedom both RCC and prostestant ville have been teaching it .
OF course in slighly differing ways , but the same lie is being pumped unto them .
And what lie is that . You dont NEED to believe on JESUS THE CHRIST .
No wonder the false religoins bought it cause they DONT
but as far as christendom , WHO ACTUALLY LED IN IT , WOE UNTO THEM and DOUBLE WOE .
b ecause they used the name oF JESUS to DENY HIS OWN GOSPEL .
And bad as it will be for the false religoins
I shudder even more so to think HOW its gonna be for those who USED teh name of JESUS to DENY HIM .
Either way its gonna be bad . FOR TO DENY JESUS , AND DENIED ONE WILL BE .

 

[Lizbeth]

You are fully exposed and yet you cover yourself in a blanket of darkness thinking that certain words can cover you up.

But the reason why you jumped on the "kingdom is within you" and fully ignored to "seek first the kingdom" is because you HATE the whole idea of having to seek God. You hate it so much....you claim to already be rich and in need of nothing. That Christ is already found in you, and all grace and the kingdom to boot. It's all already in you....or so you think in your religious hubris. I have tried getting the most basic things across to you...but you resist the truth as if it was the plague.

And you won't seek the Lord. You are self-satisfied. Every excuse you give to avoid the real God.

We are counseled to go to the throne of grace. Where is that throne of grace found? Is it somewhere in you that you just need to consult yourself?

You ought to know what I "claim" about myself from our earliest conversation at the very least, but you are unable to resolve what you see as a contradiction....you are blind to it. We certainly are to seek to APPREHEND (get hold of) that which HAS ALREADY BEEN LAID UP IN HEAVEN (spiritual realm) for us. Let the Lord so shine His light and show us what we yet lack and where we still fall short. And it takes trust/faith in His love and mercy to do that. Let us press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

If I jumped on that, it's only because it is true and you always deny/reject/refuse/negate that side of the coin, ie, you are rejecting and denying THE GOSPEL.

 

[ProDeo]

Who's the we??

This is what I said -

1. A&E had a choice, we don't.

2. We are not created as an adult in Paradise living in the wonderful presence of God with just one simple commandment.

You never wondered why you did not have the same chance as A&E ?

I am sure the Lord had a very good reason you to be born in this fallen world.

So why ?

Unbelievers? What you should say is that YOU never had a choice...because you were never in God's presence.

Anyone who is translated to abide in Christ...to be where He is in the kingdom realm....remains in His presence until he is tempted away from putting God first. It is sin that separates us...and at that level...the soul that sins it shall die...or be separated from the intimacy of God which is in holiness.

But only the called out ones would know this. Only they have choice in the matter. All others only have the choice to humble themselves and obey the words of Jesus.

 

[Lizbeth]

I am not going to belabor the point because I agree Christ indwells the heart of those that have faith in him. I just don't think he was saying to the Pharisees that they had the kingdom within them. We know from various other discourses what Jesus said was actually in them.

That's fine. Just will leave you with this little thought.....the unbelieving Pharisees no more had the kingdom of God in their midst/among them than they had the King of it in them individually, since they were rejecting Jesus, the King of the kingdom. In another way I believe He was alluding to Himself being in their midst....if only they would receive Him. Because when you receive the King, His rulership, you have received/entered His kingdom by becoming part of it.