is the HS divine?
No. Unless you assign all attributes of God as divine.
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is the HS divine?
The scriptures show that Jesus has the fullness of
Divine quality dwelling in Jesus.The Greek word translated
Divine Quality is, "the·oʹtes," and some translations
translate this Greek word as, "Godhead or deity,"
trying to make out that it's the person of God being
discussed rather than the scriptural context which is the
Quality of the person being discussed. So just because
Jesus has the Divine Quality or Divine Nature in him
doesn't mean God literally dwells in Jesus nor does it
make Jesus God.
The simple fact is the scriptures show that whatever
fullness there is in Jesus it's because it pleased the Father,
or it was God’s own choice, this fullness be in his Only Begotten Son.
No one made the choice for the Only True God to have Divine Nature
The True God has always had Divine Nature because he is the Only True God
the creator of all things and the source of all life.
That’s a pretty low threshold for establishing a being is divine. LOL
Barney you know you just puppet what Kingdom Hall told you to.If by using the word Divine you're trying to say that the Holy Spirit is a person then I can't agree with.
No. Unless you assign all attributes of God as divine.
Barney you know you just puppet what Kingdom Hall told you to.
John 16:13-14 (NKJV)
13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
i would hope you would believe Jesus (way truth and the life) and the scripture
Matt 16:18 18:18 whatsoever you (the apostles) bind on earth is bound in heaven
the doctrine of the apostles acts 2:42
they bound the most holy trinity
In holy apostolic council with the jurisdictional authority of the keys of the kingdom of Jesus Christ!
The scriptures show no Trinity doctrine in them, no matter how hard you look.
Consider the words of famed Catholic theologian John Henry Cardinal Newman who believed in the Trinity:
“Let us allow that the whole circle of doctrines, of which our Lord is the subject, was consistently and uniformly confessed by the Primitive Church, but it surely is otherwise with the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity. I do not see in what sense it can be said that there is a consensus of primitive church authorities in its favour.
“The Creeds of that early time make no mention of the Trinity doctrine at all. They make mention indeed of a Three; but there is no mention of any mystery in the doctrine, or that the Three are One, or that they are coequal, coeternal, all uncreated, all omnipotent, all incomprehensible, is not stated, and never could be gathered from them.”
So this theologian who believes in the Trinity is admitting there is no Trinity doctrine among the primitive church, among the Apostolic Father's.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), volume 14, page 299 says: The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true. The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”
But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma, but among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”
Barney you know you just puppet what Kingdom Hall told you to.
John 16:13-14 (NKJV)
13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
What you choose to believe is your choice but I don't agree with you, and you can say I'm a puppet all you want you honestly think I'm going to worry about an religious organization that you are obviously in agreement with that denies it was the Only-Begotten Son of God who became human and died for mankind. You're the puppet not me.still bound by the authority of Christ in an apostolic council
Matt 3:16-17
Matt 28:18
Jn 1:1
Jn 1:51
51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.
Jesus is divine
The holy trinity is bound in heaven by the authority of Christ in holy apostolic council
I have consistently said I know the scriptures personified the Holy Spirit when using words such as, "he, helper, etc but those scriptures don't prove the Holy Spirit to be a person. If I were to go by personification alone I would have to believe death, sin and wisdom to be literal person's, and I'm not going to believe that. So you can quote those scriptures all you want that personify the Holy Spirit but that doesn't prove the Holy Spirit to be a person.
What you choose to believe is your choice but I don't agree with you, and you can say I'm a puppet all you want you honestly think I'm going to worry about an religious organization that you are obviously in agreement with that denies it was the Only-Begotten Son of God who became human and died for mankind. You're the puppet not me.
no man comes down from heaven
Imagine that, two Kingdom Hall victims agreeing.Outstanding analysis.
And I will because Kingdom Hall LIED to you!I have consistently said I know the scriptures personified the Holy Spirit when using words such as, "he, helper, etc but those scriptures don't prove the Holy Spirit to be a person. If I were to go by personification alone I would have to believe death, sin and wisdom to be literal person's, and I'm not going to believe that. So you can quote those scriptures all you want that personify the Holy Spirit but that doesn't prove the Holy Spirit to be a person.
Barney please stop trying to rewrite our Bible until you provide your Greek expertise qualifications. Kingdom Hall saying you're an expert doesn't count.The scriptures show that Jesus has the fullness of
Divine quality dwelling in Jesus.The Greek word translated
Divine Quality is, "the·oʹtes," and some translations
translate this Greek word as, "Godhead or deity,"
trying to make out that it's the person of God being
discussed rather than the scriptural context which is the
Quality of the person being discussed. So just because
Jesus has the Divine Quality or Divine Nature in him
doesn't mean God literally dwells in Jesus nor does it
make Jesus God.
The simple fact is the scriptures show that whatever
fullness there is in Jesus it's because it pleased the Father,
or it was God’s own choice, this fullness be in his Only Begotten Son.
No one made the choice for the Only True God to have Divine Nature
The True God has always had Divine Nature because he is the Only True God
the creator of all things and the source of all life.