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Will we have to rethink the age of the universe?

Discussion in 'Christianity & Science Forum' started by rockytopva, May 21, 2017.

  1. rockytopva

    rockytopva Well-Known Member Encounter Team

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    Will we have to rethink the age of the universe? "Hubble Reveals Observable Universe Contains 10 Times More Galaxies Than Previously Thought"

    Hubble Finds 10 Times More Galaxies Than Thought

    Even the big bang theory is up for debate!

    Where is the centre of the universe?

    If the universe contains 10 times more galaxies than originally thought then the 15 billion year theory goes out the window, it would be much older than that!
     
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    JesusIsFaithful Well-Known Member

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    The Big Bang Theory can be easily dismissed when you see that some of the planets in our very own galaxy rotates in the opposite direction of Earth. There is no way cause and effect can establish that pattern in our galaxy by sheer chance from the so called Big Bang.

    If we read His words, God created the heavens the fourth day to give light to the earth for governing of times and seasons. That means He created the firmaments in the heavens, ( the sources for that light ) and filled in the gap of that light from their sources, to govern the earth that fourth day.

    So regardless of how fast light travel through space, we actually cannot tell how old the earth is when He filled in the gap of that light source to givern the earth that fourth day.

    Indeed, there is a lot of evidence that God created mature living things as well as His word answers the question; which came first, the chicken or the egg? It was a full grown adult chicken. Just like man was created as an adult.

    If we take the Star Trek point of view in setting up the holodeck program, we would find that we cannot build it from scratch whatever world we think to program into the holodeck. Indeed, your buddies would be very impatient for you to program a world for entertainment if you took the laws of physic approach in programming things. So even in set up for a holodeck program to run, there is an instant maturity in the things created in the holodeck program. God took six days in setting up creation to run and He rested on the seventh day as a testimony how long it took God to create everything.

    God has created the entire reality of our universe and thus testifying that He is not limited when He exists in Heaven as outside the reality of our universe as He is the One that created it. He can intervene to alter the "events" or "people" in the program because He is the Programmer. He is God.

    Science may stumble around in the dark for how everything was created, but we have His words to know the truth about how everything was created since Jesus, the Word of God; the Creator of our Universe, testified that the scripture cannot be broken and thus validating the seventh day of rest from God's creation that it was created for man and not man for the sabbath as well as validating how God made the first man and the first woman by how the first marriage came about. Jesus validated the scripture of the behemoth which is described as a dinosaur having a tail like a cedar which is a tree in Job 40th chapter as this behemoth was made with man and Jesus validated Noah's ark and the global flood to warn believers of the coming calamity of fire on the earth to escape by way of the pre trib rapture thus the call to be found abiding in Him by His grace & by His help to be ready to leave this life to join Him at the Marriage Supper table above.

    There is real science; and there is a false science; lean on Jesus to know which is false in according to His words.

    1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    i read something that postulated that the reason we do not see an unbroken blanket of white (stars) at night is strictly because there has not been enough time for light further than 15 billion light years from us to reach us.
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    The world is 5777 years old according to the bible. For the Christian there is nothing to rethink. T
     
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    rockytopva Well-Known Member Encounter Team

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    The James Webb Space Telescope, also called Webb or JWST, is a large, space-based observatory, optimized for infrared wavelengths, which will complement and extend the discoveries of the Hubble Space Telescope. It launches in 2018.

    It will be interesting to see what this telescope sees when it focuses in on the darkness of space!

    Hubble Space Telescope's replacement arrives at NASA’s Johnson Space Center

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    sorry, the bible don't tell us the actual age of the world/planet. it only give a timeline of recorded history of "fallen" man and not the planet.
     
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    Helen Well-Known Member

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    I can see that the Universe can be "forever" old...I doubt that any numbers can count it. This tiny little bit that we are on had a beginning of it's 'creation' ... wow, just think..God just chose a tiny bit, and then began creating...it was outside of time..and He declare T I M E ...and it was so. He had the Lamb prepared, slain, before He began creation of this wee speck..
    It blows my mind. I am sure, as someone said.. ..that the galaxies go on forever...and yet there is nothing that has not come out 'from God'...He engulfs them all!!

    Psalm 19:
    19 "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."
     
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    All things, including time and the universe, are a manifestation of things on high. Meaning, both truth and untruth, are projected into what is visible.

    So... whether one writes it in a sentence on a blank piece of paper or in a history book, or writes it across the sky...lies appear just as valid as truth.

    It really does matter what you believe.
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    See even me saying yes it does proves nothing. If I give you the scriptures in black and white you wont believe it. You have your mind set. Thats the way of man.
     
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    ok, go for it, give the scripture that give the date of the planet
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    just Spiritually discern by those who have eyes to see..... (smile).
     
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    For a very long time there was one group of scientists who could prove that the universe was not younger than 19 billion years. Another group could prove that the universe was not older than 13 billion years. Neither group could find any flaw in the other group's proof. This does not promote confidence in scientific reasoning.

    Edwin Hubble observed red shifted light*. He did not speculate on the cause. Others assumed it was caused by Doppler effect, meaning stars were all moving away, without considering any other possible cause. Somehow they also concluded that they could estimate distance from the same data. So about half of everything astronomers think they know about the universe is based on an assumption and a totally wacko conclusion.

    *Excited atoms shine with certain colors unique to the atom. Non-excited atoms absorb the same colors. So astronomers analyze the colors of light to determine what atoms are involved. Hubble found the patterns ok, but the colors were redder than they should have been. There are several known causes of that.
     
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