If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[Truth7t7]

No there will not! The earth is very much still undissolved when we rule here then.
We can see that in the many many descriptions of life here after He returns. You are beyond left field, and lost in the woods on that.

There are no descriptions in scripture, of life in a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, post scripture to support your claims, waiting?

 

[dad]

Your suggesting that Satan is still presently in heaven and not cast out, as Jesus sits at the right hand of the father, already overcoming Satan on earth?

He would not be in the third or highest heaven of course. That is beyond where stars are. Remember that a third of the stars are cast down, because with the dragon? There was a demon in Daniel 10 I think it was, that hindered the angel from God, and delayed him bringing the answer. That demon angel was not in the third heaven where God is, but somewhere on the way here.

Scripture clearly teaches as Jesus stated, he watched Satan cast out of heaven as lightning, Jesus was tempted by Satan upon earth 40 days and nights, your claims are major "Error" in my opinion

Hey, the devil walks on earth sometimes, and has even been recorded as being allowed in a heavenly meeting with God and angels in the book of Job. Judas was possessed of Satan himself I think as well. But in the end, Satan gets the boot from any heaven up there and is cast down to earth where he is stuck. It is then he is mad as a wet hen and does his damnest in the final years here.

 

[dad]

There are no descriptions in scripture, of life in a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, post scripture to support your claims, waiting?

All of them actually. When people beat weapons into plows where did you think that was, Jupiter? When Jesus lands on the mount of Olives and takes over, that is right here. When they bury the dead and the stench is awful, that is on earth. When Jesus rules the nations that is here also of course. The kings bring gifts to Jerusalem. When a child lays with a lion and a lamb I do not think that is on an asteroid!

 

[Truth7t7]

He would not be in the third or highest heaven of course. That is beyond where stars are. Remember that a third of the stars are cast down, because with the dragon? There was a demon in Daniel 10 I think it was, that hindered the angel from God, and delayed him bringing the answer. That demon angel was not in the third heaven where God is, but somewhere on the way here.
Hey, the devil walks on earth sometimes, and has even been recorded as being allowed in a heavenly meeting with God and angels in the book of Job. Judas was possessed of Satan himself I think as well. But in the end, Satan gets the boot from any heaven up there and is cast down to earth where he is stuck. It is then he is mad as a wet hen and does his damnest in the final years here.

Satan was cast out of heaven as Jesus clearly stated, Jesus was tempted by Satan 40 days and nights on earth

Satan wasn't in heaven as you claim, when he came before God concerning Job, he was in the earth going to and fro, the earth is Gods footstool

I fully disagree with your claims

Jesus Is The Lord

Job 1:7KJV
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

 

[Truth7t7]

All of them actually. When people beat weapons into plows where did you think that was, Jupiter? When Jesus lands on the mount of Olives and takes over, that is right here. When they bury the dead and the stench is awful, that is on earth. When Jesus rules the nations that is here also of course. The kings bring gifts to Jerusalem. When a child lays with a lion and a lamb I do not think that is on an asteroid!

Please post scripture references, book, chapter, verses, to support your claims

We need to be precise, it's my assumption your quoting Isaiah & Zechariah, please give book, chapter, verses "Waiting"?

 

[dad]

Satan was cast out of heaven as Jesus clearly stated, Jesus was tempted by Satan 40 days and nights on earth

He walks to and fro and comes and goes. After he gets cast down he will not be able to go anywhere.

Satan wasn't in heaven as you claim, when he came before God concerning Job, he was in the earth going to and fro, the earth is Gods footstool

They came to present themselves before the Almighty. There were angels there. It was like a court session. There is no reason to claim that was on earth.

 

[dad]

Please post scripture references, book, chapter, verses, to support your claims

We need to be precise, it's my assumption your quoting Isaiah & Zechariah, please give book, chapter, verses "Waiting"?

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord 's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isaiah 2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord , to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

That is the time after Jesus returns.

This also is of that time

Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.


That is earth, animals,kids,nations, etc.
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

 

[Truth7t7]

He walks to and fro and comes and goes. After he gets cast down he will not be able to go anywhere.

They came to present themselves before the Almighty. There were angels there. It was like a court session. There is no reason to claim that was on earth.

The Churck Missler Nephilim is a farce

 

[dad]

The Churck Missler Nephilim is a farce

Could be I am not familiar with that

 

[Truth7t7]

Could be I am not familiar with that

The teaching that " the sons of God" are angeles, is part of the Chuck Missler hoax in the Nephilim

Those that presented themselves before God were righteous believers on earth, satan was on earth amongst these believers, no Angel's are present other than satan

Job 1:6-7KJV
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence
comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

All saved believers are sons of God

John 1:12KJV
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14KJV
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

 

[Truth7t7]

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord 's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isaiah 2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord , to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

That is the time after Jesus returns.

This also is of that time

Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.


That is earth, animals,kids,nations, etc.
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

Isaiah Chapters 11 & 65 Is The Very Same Place, The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth, Don't Be Deceived By Claims This Represents A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Same Wolf & Lamb Together, And Lion Eating Straw Like The Bullock/Ox, In The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth

(For, Behold, I Create New Heavens And A New Earth)

Isaiah 65:17-18 & 25KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 11:6-7KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

 

[Truth7t7]

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord 's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isaiah 2:3
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord , to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

That is the time after Jesus returns.

This also is of that time

Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.


That is earth, animals,kids,nations, etc.
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

Isaiah chapter 2 is the (Eternal Kingdom) after the day of the Lord takes place, you will closely note in verse 22, man's breath is taken from his nostril's, all human life ceases, the earth has been dissolved by the Lord fire in judgement 2 Peter 3:10-13

Isaiah 2:12
12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan,
14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up,
15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall,
16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures.
17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day.
18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.
19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;
21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.
22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?

 

[dad]

The teaching that " the sons of God" are angeles, is part of the Chuck Missler hoax in the Nephilim

No. Never heard of that. I have heard that the sons of god are angels though.

Those that presented themselves before God were righteous believers on earth, satan was on earth amongst these believers, no Angel's are present other than satan

So humans got up to where God lives for a big decision session with Him eh? Wings?

All saved believers are sons of God

Right, now we are. That does not mean we came to present ourselves before God along with Satan in Job's day!

 

[dad]

Isaiah chapter 2 is the (Eternal Kingdom) after the day of the Lord takes place, you will closely note in verse 22, man's breath is taken from his nostril's, all human life ceases,

No. It says our breath is in our nostrils and that we die.

Isaiah 2:22
Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem? That does not say all people died at the time!!!

the earth has been dissolved by the Lord fire in judgement 2 Peter 3:10-13

And it says when!

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. that comes after the thousand years. It's funny that this is the same chapter that brings to mind that a thousand years to God is as a day! So the part of the day when earth is burned and made new is at the end of that thousand years. It is also part of that time of God wrapping it all up called the day of the Lord.

 

[dad]

Isaiah Chapters 11 & 65 Is The Very Same Place, The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth, Don't Be Deceived By Claims This Represents A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Same Wolf & Lamb Together, And Lion Eating Straw Like The Bullock/Ox, In The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth

No chance. There are still gentiles mentioned here. That is not eternity.
Isaiah 11:10
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
It is also defiantly on earth and says so in the chapter you cite no less!

Isaiah 11:11
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

That is when He gathers them from nations back to the land of Israel. You have been exposed as being completely wrong on every key aspect of the future and the bible you mentioned. Run along. You wasted enough time.

 

[Truth7t7]

No. Never heard of that. I have heard that the sons of god are angels though.
So humans got up to where God lives for a big decision session with Him eh? Wings?

Right, now we are. That does not mean we came to present ourselves before God along with Satan in Job's day!

Not one word below states the sons of God were in heaven as you claim

Job 1:6-7KJV
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence
comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

The sons of God were on the earth, before Gods footstool

Isaiah 66:1KJV
Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

As scripture clearly teaches, any person led by God the Holy Spirit is a son of God

Romans 8:14KJV
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

 

[Truth7t7]

No. It says our breath is in our nostrils and that we die.

Isaiah 2:22
Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem? That does not say all people died at the time!!!
And it says when!

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. that comes after the thousand years. It's funny that this is the same chapter that brings to mind that a thousand years to God is as a day! So the part of the day when earth is burned and made new is at the end of that thousand years. It is also part of that time of God wrapping it all up called the day of the Lord.

As stated the kingdom seen in Isaiah 2 is (Eternal) after the day of the Lord has taken place

Isaiah 2:12KJV
12 For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

2 Peter 3:10-11KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

 

[dad]

Not one word below states the sons of God were in heaven as you claim

God anked Satan where he had been, and he tells God it was on earth. If they were all on earth that would make noo sense.

As scripture clearly teaches, any person led by God the Holy Spirit is a son of God

It also calls angels sons of god.

 

[dad]

As stated the kingdom seen in Isaiah 2 is (Eternal) after the day of the Lord has take place

State it all you like it is wrong. Clearly it says that He gathers His people from all over the earth etc.

 

[Truth7t7]

No chance. There are still gentiles mentioned here. That is not eternity.
Isaiah 11:10
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
It is also defiantly on earth and says so in the chapter you cite no less!

Isaiah 11:11
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

That is when He gathers them from nations back to the land of Israel. You have been exposed as being completely wrong on every key aspect of the future and the bible you mentioned. Run along. You wasted enough time.

Will you now claim the animals seen in Isaiah 11 & 65 are in different kingdoms, as Isaiah 65 clearly teaches this is the New Heaven & Earth?

Isaiah Chapters 11 & 65 Is The Very Same Place, The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth, Don't Be Deceived By Claims This Represents A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Same Wolf & Lamb Together, And Lion Eating Straw Like The Bullock/Ox, In The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth

(For, Behold, I Create New Heavens And A New Earth)

Isaiah 65:17-18 & 25KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 11:6-7KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.