stunnedbygrace
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@stunnedbygrace - 13:3 -
the notes beside each indication is the follow up by the next written part.
Revelation 13:
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14 - Remarkable detail about Nero's campaign of persecution is that it lasted just over 42 months, which verses 5 - 8 record as the length of time that would be given to the beast to "war against and conquer the saints." The persecution ended when Nero died on June 9th, 68AD. In this context, Revelation 13:10 must have been a comfort to the saints as they were first told that the beast would only be allowed to persecute them for 3.5 years but the Revelation also [at verse 10] told them how their persecutor would be removed, saying "... he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and faith of the saints." [Verse 10] Nero ended his life by thrusting his sword through his own throat, with the help of his personal secretary, Epaphroditus, when he realized his popularity wanted and that a coup was in the making. Again fulfilling the words of this prophecy. [See Nero] [See Daniel 7:8,11,25;11:36; Revelation 11:2;12:6]
15 - His tabernacle could speak to the temple or the Lord Yeshua [see Yeshua: tabernacle of YHWH] [see John 1:14]
16 - Numerous church leaders during the first several centuries identified Nero as the beast of the book of Revelation or at least speculated that it was him. When they labeled him the beast this was synonymous with the anti-Christ as the two are often blended in interpretation. These included Clement of Alexandria [150-215 AD], Tertullian [160-220 AD], Augustine [354-430 AD] and Jerome [347-420 AD], who stated the following in his commentary on Daniel 11:27-30: "As for the Antichrist, there is no question but what he is going to fight against the holy covenant, and that when he first makes war against the king of Egypt, he shall straightway be frightened off by the assistance of the Romans. But these events were typically prefigured under Antiochus Epiphanes, so that this abominable king who persecuted God's people foreshadows the ANtichrist, who is to persecute the people of Christ. And so there are many of our viewpoint who think that Domitous Nero was the Anti Christ because of his outstanding savagery and depravity." The difficulty about this is the beast is certainly the Roman Empire [generally] and Nero [specifically].
17 - [see suffering, Christian] - [ see Acts 14:22; 26:18; Galatians 4:7; Philippians 1:29; 2 Timothy 2:11-12]
18 - [see Daniel 7:21; Revelation 11:7,18, 12:17; 17:15]
19 - From a fulfillment vantage point this verse refers "to all national Israel and here tribes" [see Exodus 32:32; Daniel 12:1]
20 - [See Matthew 11:15; 13:43; Luke 8:8; 14:35; Revelation 2:7]
21 - This appears to be a clear prophecy regarding how the Beast [in the singular sense] would be slain. If this is its meaning it would be taken as a comforting fact, helping the believers in Nero's day to endure through intense persecution [in light of this prophecy] while waiting for the end to come within thread and a half years. Nero martyred thousands [including Paul] by the sword, and Tertuliians [in his book, "Before Jerusalem's Fall] credits 'Nero's cruel sword' as providing the martyr's blood as "seed for the church". It's a historical fact that Nero also met his own suicidal Demis at the hand of a sword when he certainly could have taken poison. Therefore, he did indeed live and die by the sword. It was this even in June 68AD which brought an end to this most intense period of persecution against the Church/Bride. Again we know also that Nero fit the description of this beast [in the specific sense] with his forth-two month reign of persecution from November 64 - June 68 D [See verses 5-7], then with his death by the sword [ even as he had used the sword to cause death ] [see verse 10], and with his demand for worship fit the description of this Beast [in a general sense], with its identification as the fourth beast in Daniels similar vision [Daniel 7:1-8], and with the healing of the mortal wound suffered by one of its heads [Revelation 17:7-10] - See [Nero] - [ See Genesis 9:6; Isaiah 33:1, Matthew 26:52; Revelation 14:12.
Oh wait…I think I found what verse you think is mistranslated in KJV. Is it 13:3?
So here are some different translations to compare.
(KJV) 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
(MOUNCE) 3 The whole world marveled as they followed the beast
(NOG) All the people of the world were amazed and followed the beast.
(NAB) 3 I saw that one of its heads seemed to have been mortally wounded, but this mortal wound was healed. Fascinated, the whole world followed after the beast.
(NASB) 3 I saw one of his heads as if it had been fatally wounded, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast;
(NCB) 3 One of his heads appeared to me to have been mortally wounded, but its mortal wound had been healed. The whole world then became fascinated with the beast,
(NCV) Then the whole world was amazed and followed the beast.
So, do you see my problem? You are now saying it is mistranslated in every version I pulled up? And this is what we should do with Gods word when something doesn’t seem to fit our current view? Just say it has to be mistranslated in every translation? Isn’t that altering scripture to fit your view rather than letting scripture inform your view and renew your mind?
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