God "CREATED" -- What it actually means.

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Ziggy

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I suspect the world is a dream in God's mind. We are as "real" as any other idea.

That book you read last month? The thought of it remains in your head. Can you point to "it?" Does it have mass or substance? Is it "real?" Perhaps not, yet there it is in your head just the same.
The question I would ask is, How real is that world we create for those characters in that book?
Every time someone picks it up to read, it begins again.
In that case, to those characters in that book, history would forever repeat irself from beginning to end.
The life that is given to it is of the reader.
As long as that book remains, those characters are forever immortalized.
Consider the book of Life we call the Bible.
I am of the opinion that we ourselves can recognize our own character within the many characters written within it.
The book was written as a witness of eternal life. For as long as the pages remain, we (humanity) remain alive.
And then there is memory.
Memory for the purpose of remembrance of things written, and incorporated into our own life book.
Building character, laying foundations of morals and principles.
And the ability to discern good characters from bad.
We are the epistles, the letters, not written with ink, but with the light of the knowledge of the glory of God himself in our own book of life.

2Co 3:2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2Co 3:4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
2Co 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Everything that is written and read and recieved into a persons life becomes a part of the life that is being written.
Paul says: I don't need you to prove if what I preach is truth, because you are the physical manifestation of how the words I've written have changed your character. And the proof is in the fruit that we bare.
In our mannerism, our speach, our capacity to bring light into a dark world.
We are the stars.

Every word in the Bible is multi meaning. There are so many layers of understanding.
And how each person understands it, is how their own life is being written.
We decide for ourselves whether we will condone or condemn the characters written in the bible.
As much as we allow them wiggle room, we allow ourselves. As much as we restict them, we restrict ourselves.

Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The kingdom of heaven is within you, just as the kingdom of heaven is within God.
We have the knowledge and understanding of how we in our own lives can create a life of heaven or hell,
simply by our actions and the words we speak. And the ability to grasp the principles in the bible. God's Word.

You may never read a bible physically. You may never hear the stories written in it.
But every person walking on this earth is a manifestation of the truth written within it.
There some very good figs and some very evil figs. And I believe like the bad guy written in the story, each one has their role to play for all of our learning.

We are to judge everything and yet nothing.
The only judging I believe that is or should be permissible is of ones own life, character, book.
If you don't like where the book is going, you hold the pen in your own hand.
And only you can change YOU.
And God has given us plenty of examples of different characters, like flavours of ice cream, that we can mold ourselves around.

But in the end, every book shall be opened. And how you have chosen to hear and apply lessons to ones life,
those will be judged by the one who created the Master book. The Book of Life.

just thinking..
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ScottA

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So you believe jesus will have to go back to heaven so He can return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords as is declared in REv. 19?
Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords already, and began coming quickly soon after going to the Father to those who hear Him knocking and open the door, just as He said.
 

Robert Gwin

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It is the testimony of many ("each one in his own order") including myself, that Jesus has already come "quickly" just as He said, and is now with us having returned when we first heard Him knocking and opened the door.

No need to elaborate sir, we disagree. Time will reveal if I am correct when he returns.
 

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If you insist.

Isaiah 6:10
“Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed.”
The thing is Scott, anyone can take the text you've quoted and apply it to their cause.....including Marxists.
 

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All Three Persons says the Word


Jesus is in heaven right now!

  1. John 14:2
    In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. John 14:3
    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Revelation 19:11-13
King James Version

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Hebrews 7:25
Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Jesus is in heaven preparing a place for us and making intercession for us.

Luke 11:2
And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

Father is seated on the throne of heaven.

It is God the Holy S[pirit who indwells us. To see Him is to seed Jesus and know Jesus. To know and see Jesus is to know the Father.
 

Ronald Nolette

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Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords already, and began coming quickly soon after going to the Father to those who hear Him knocking and open the door, just as He said.


So to you REv. 19 is a present reality?

What is He king and Lord of?
 

Ronald David Bruno

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Let there be light”, I think of, Let there be Christ.
Christ did not come til long agter creation. The light in Genesis is tye light that we see, composed of waves, particles, a color spectrum- very complex, so much so that scientists are not quite sure about it.

The topic is earth…but earth is also the topic in I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
Yet right before that it speaks of a people, after all the cites broken down at the presence of the Lord.
God was just making a point that man did not know, wasn't wise, and so in expressing their ignorance, He points out that they weren't there when He created the earth. He expressed the same grievance with Job: "Where were you when I made everything ... tell me?"
 

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Yes they are! They are three separate people who make up the one God.

god the Father did not die on the Cross. God the Son did!
When all is said and done, it will rather be known that God is One, but it is only men who have been in three different places having three different perspectives. Men perceive "Yesterday, today, and forever", but God is "all in all", "I am."

1 Corinthians 12:6
And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.​
 

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see I don’t see how you can say that, with all due respect…considering the OT speaks of earthen vessels. What vessels are void and without form? We say “earth” and our sole focus is on a planet. What vessel does it mention in “woe to the earthen vessel” that says “what are you making?” “What are you bringing forth?” What of All that regarding …a vessel marred and without form …in the potters hand? what does God do with it??? What can a potter do with a vessel that is marred and with form? Or what of “having a form of Godliness” but denying what?
The Potter makes vessels, some for good and some for evil - accept it or not. Some people are cracked pots that will never heal - but serve a purpose ... to glorify Him.
Yes the word form can be applied to everything but everything is not contained in one sentence. But you can try to fit it in if you'd like.
God created an apple. What does that mean to you? Is it an apple that you eat or something else? You can spiritualize the meaning of an apple. Maybe He is saying, we are the apple of His eye. Or maybe He is talking about New York, the Big Apple ... that's it ... it's prophetic, a reference ti the end times? Or maybe He's talking about something beneath the skin, the core meaning of life ... yes... the seed? Okay Johnny apple seed, whatever you think.